UNC and UNF Nuts and Bolts - UK source

'Ello all

Has anyone in the UK found a source for SAE 8.5 grade UNC and UNF fixings, these are normally finished with a light gold coloured plating and have the six radial markings on the bolt head.

I've tried all the usual searches but without success so any help would be much appreciated

Regards

John
 
Frank

I tried them and whoever I spoke to said they did'nt do the grade 8.5. Lower grade, so called high tensile fixings which from memory have 3 radial line markings, are not a problem. RCR fit the 8.5 and I want to stick with them for any mods I make.

You are most welcome to come round anytime to look at the build, just call on xxxxxxxxx

Best

John
 
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Mark

Many thanks, I'll try them.

Loving the build, though perhaps slow (and careful!) by the standards of some. Will get round to updating the build thread in a week or so.

Best

John
 

Chris Duncan

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'Ello all

Has anyone in the UK found a source for SAE 8.5 grade UNC and UNF fixings, these are normally finished with a light gold coloured plating and have the six radial markings on the bolt head.

I believe with 6 lines it's just grade 8, not 8.5. The light gold is cadmium plating. The 3 lines is grade 5.

Basically grade 5 is the first tier of graded SAE bolts and grade 8 is the second.

AN (aircraft) is the next step up. Not that much stronger than grade 8 just more rigid quality control, smaller size increments, and better fit.
 
www.mcmaster will ship to you and has everything. With the exchange rate, even shipping and import duties will be a deal!

No they won't....:furious: Unless they have changed their policy. I placed an oprder earlier/back end of last year with them for Confor foam and also some Phophor branze. When I told them it was for the Uk they said they had stopped doing that part of the business due to new riles of import/export. If they have changed can someone let me know, as they can get hold of stuff we can't hear in the UK.

Brett
 

Brian Magee

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John,

Try Margnor near Guildford, Surrey. They will post them out to you and are nice people to deal with. They stock a good range of metric and imperial sizes. 01483 536800.

Brian.
 
Bret

You are right, they don't tell you till you've plodded through the order process, oh sweet joy.

Brian

I'll give them a go, thanks

John
 
I spent a number of weeks working on a '72 Pantera in Surrey. I was astonished at how barbaric the UK is when it comes to individuals working on their own cars. Given that seemingly every third person in England is their own small sports car manufacturer, I would have expected to find hardware, tools, and auto parts practically growing on trees.

Instead, I found it next to impossible to even find metric nut and bolts; the only source for miles around was a 15-minute drive, and all they had was Chinese-made Grade Zilch junk, sold in blister packs, for about 10 pounds for a half-dozen nuts and bolts, of which a good 10% were defective.

And forget about SAE hardware. You might as well be looking for unicorn horns or something.

Eventually, I had to fly over with a whole suitcase full of nuts and bolts, both metric and SAE, just to get the damn job done. I had to do the same thing when working on another Pantera outside of Paris.

I live in a medium-sized town in California, halfway between Sacramento and San Francisco, with a population of about 100,000, in a very ordinary tract home development. If I pick up a rock, wind up really hard, and throw it as hard as I can, I can hit a wholesale hardware company that sells cad-plated nuts and bolts in bulk, and tools. How you guys can exist over there without that sort of thing, and yet still have so many fantastic cars on the road boggles my mind.

Fortunately, you have the interweb over there. :laugh:

If McMaster-Carr won't play ball with you, here is an excellent alternative:

Bolt Depot - Nuts and Bolts, Screws and Fasteners online

Here is another one:

Industrial Fastener Supplier Stainless Steel, Specialty, Standard, and Precision Fasteners

They've got everything, their prices are reasonable, service is terrific, what more could you ask? :thumbsup:

With respect to your specific question, I'm sure with enough searching you can find what you need in the UK, but at least you have Bolt Depot as a backup.

Remember that bolt strength ratings are different between SAE and Metric. SAE bolts used in automobiles are normally Grade 5, or Grade 8, with the latter being stronger, but less ductile. These correspond roughly to Metric grade 8.8 and 12.9, respectively. However, there are zillions of different types of nuts and bolts, depending on the application. Here's a mind-numbing listing of the SAE bolt specs:

American Fastener - ASTM, SAE, and ISO Grade Markings

and a roughly analogous listing for metric fasteners:

American Fastener - Metric Sockets, Bolts, Screws, and Nuts

Legendary mechanic and author Carroll Smith (who was the Team Manager for Shelby's GT40 team, coincidentally) wrote the definitive work on fasteners for racing cars, called "Nuts, Bolts, Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook". It's available from Amazon for under $15:

Amazon.com: Carroll Smith's Nuts, Bolts, Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook (Motorbooks Workshop): Carroll Smith: Books

In case that awoke your inner engineer and you felt the need for even more information about fasteners, the "Fastener Design Manual" is available for free download from NASA:

Fastener Design Manual

Not as colorful or entertaining as Smith's book, but interesting nonetheless.

Good luck, and let us know how you get on! :thumbsup:
 
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David and Mike

Thanks, I will try your suggestions out. I am well serviced by 2 local fixings specialists but like all the places I have tried in the UK the only bolts they don't stock are grade 8 UNC/UNF.

This time in desperation I have bought from macmaster and had them shipped to my step daughter who works in New York who will then ship on to me.

Mike, the European and Japanese sector is well provided for over here in terms of special equipment, mods, race rally preperation etc etc. The market in the UK is very small (relatively) for US based products though I can buy most of what I need if I google around. I mostly choose to buy from the States because, as you say, the selection is huge and a large market ensures pricing is very keen.

Best

John
 
Might be worth a shot.......

Quality Suppliers Ltd
Unit 13 Lyon Road, Walton-On-Thames, Surrey, KT12 3PU, United Kingdom
Telephone (01932) 248831
 
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