Well, it's finally over...Farewell Afghanistan...

[Keith]

And in the end, I think a job well done, despite the equipment and general logistic frick ups by the politicos.

So, Hurrah for the chaps, I say. I salute you, and thoughts are with the families of the 430 killed on active service in that God forsaken hole.


BBC News - UK ends Afghan combat operations

 

[Larry L.]

"We're not going to send combat troops back into Afghanistan, under any circumstances," (Michael Fallon) added.

We heard similar pronouncements over here regarding Iraq.

Jus' sayin'...

 

[Keith]

"We're not going to send combat troops back into Afghanistan, under any circumstances," (Michael Fallon) added.

We heard similar pronouncements over here regarding Iraq.

Jus' sayin'...

I caught that as well. Makes you wonder about these guys doesn't it?

By numbers. One: "Mouth - Open" Two: "Foot - In"

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

They are all morons elected by the lowest common denominator.

 

[Jack]

They are all morons elected by the lowest common denominator.

I like that statement Pete! Goes well here too.

 

[Larry L.]

I caught that as well. Makes you wonder about these guys doesn't it?

By numbers. One: "Mouth - Open" Two: "Foot - In"

They are all morons elected by the lowest common denominator.

\
...'certainly 'been the case over here the last 10 years or so...'no question... o:

 

[David Morton]

At long last no more young men being sacrificed on the altar frequented by stupid egotistical politicians.
I'm sure they will find somewhere else though.

 

[David Morton]

Coalition Military Fatalities By Year



Year US UK Other Total
2001 12 0 0 12
2002 49 3 18 70
2003 48 0 10 58
2004 52 1 7 60
2005 99 1 31 131
2006 98 39 54 191
2007 117 42 73 232
2008 155 51 89 295
2009 317 108 96 521
2010 499 103 109 711
2011 418 46 102 566
2012 310 44 48 402
2013 127 9 25 161
2014 48 6 12 66
Total 2349 453 674 3476


Did any of you ever write to your politicians? I suspect hardly any.

 

[David Morton]

Coalition Military Fatalities By Year and Month

CoalitionU.S.
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Total
2001 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 5 4 12
2002 10 13 15 10 1 3 0 3 1 5 1 8 70
2003 4 7 12 2 3 7 2 4 2 6 8 1 58
2004 11 2 3 3 9 5 2 4 4 8 7 2 60
2005 2 3 6 19 4 29 2 33 12 10 7 4 131
2006 1 17 13 5 17 22 19 29 38 17 9 4 191
2007 2 18 10 20 25 24 29 34 24 15 22 9 232
2008 14 7 20 14 23 46 30 46 37 19 12 27 295
2009 25 25 28 14 27 38 76 77 70 74 32 35 521
2010 43 53 39 34 51 103 88 79 57 65 58 41 711
2011 32 38 39 51 56 66 53 82 53 42 27 27 566
2012 35 24 39 40 45 39 46 52 27 24 17 14 402
2013 8 1 16 16 26 27 14 13 13 10 4 13 161
2014 7 10 3 9 4 12 9 5 6 1 0 0 66

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Fatalities By Country


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Country Total
Albania 1
Australia 41
Belgium 1
Canada 158
Czech 10
Denmark 43
Estonia 9
Finland 2
France 86
Georgia 27
Germany 54
Hungary 7
Italy 48
Jordan 2
Latvia 3
Lithuania 1
NATO 15
Netherlands 25
New Zealand 11
Norway 10
Poland 40
Portugal 2
Romania 21
Slovakia 3
South Korea 1
Spain 34
Sweden 5
Turkey 14
UK 453
US 2349
Total 3476

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[Doug S.]

"IT", as in the never-ending warfare between Muslim factions, will truly be never-ending, but I share your joy that the senseless dedication of resources shall stop...eventually. So...we don't hear much about the Taliban these days...but there is ISIS/ISIL. Is it a case of dogshit by any other name smelling just as putrid???

That is why I think it is not over...and never will be as long as their prevailing attitude supports armed conflict.

Doug

 

[Pat]

Doug, sadly, while I disagree on your statement about the Taliban, you're more than correct on it not being over.

Taliban storm Afghan court, 'kill seven'

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

It's about time we realised the real problem is those who follow Islam. And yes I mean all of them.

 

[David Morton]

Indeed Pete. If you live in or near a major city, it's becoming more and more invasive and now with a degree of arrogance. The Russians are maybe less in number but one of my contacts tell me they are armed or have armed bodyguards who go ahead on motorcycles.
The current threat level of SEVERE is not being caused by the Catholics, Protestants, or any other. Figure it out yourselves.
SEVERE means that a terrorist attack is highly likely and I would anticipate CRITICAL over the Christmas period when London is extremely crowded and it will certainly be I.S. activity.

 

[Robert May Eng.]

Coalition Military Fatalities By Year and Month

CoalitionU.S.
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Total
2001 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 5 4 12
2002 10 13 15 10 1 3 0 3 1 5 1 8 70
2003 4 7 12 2 3 7 2 4 2 6 8 1 58
2004 11 2 3 3 9 5 2 4 4 8 7 2 60
2005 2 3 6 19 4 29 2 33 12 10 7 4 131
2006 1 17 13 5 17 22 19 29 38 17 9 4 191
2007 2 18 10 20 25 24 29 34 24 15 22 9 232
2008 14 7 20 14 23 46 30 46 37 19 12 27 295
2009 25 25 28 14 27 38 76 77 70 74 32 35 521
2010 43 53 39 34 51 103 88 79 57 65 58 41 711
2011 32 38 39 51 56 66 53 82 53 42 27 27 566
2012 35 24 39 40 45 39 46 52 27 24 17 14 402
2013 8 1 16 16 26 27 14 13 13 10 4 13 161
2014 7 10 3 9 4 12 9 5 6 1 0 0 66

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Fatalities By Country


Click graph to view details
Country Total
Albania 1
Australia 41
Belgium 1
Canada 158
Czech 10
Denmark 43
Estonia 9
Finland 2
France 86
Georgia 27
Germany 54
Hungary 7
Italy 48
Jordan 2
Latvia 3
Lithuania 1
NATO 15
Netherlands 25
New Zealand 11
Norway 10
Poland 40
Portugal 2
Romania 21
Slovakia 3
South Korea 1
Spain 34
Sweden 5
Turkey 14
UK 453
US 2349
Total 3476

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I am always skeptical when reading stats like this . Any loss of life to these arseholes is unacceptable but are the figures misleading. Here in the UK we lose dozens of soldiers just through training and basically being in the Army. Are these figures just those that have been killed by gunfire or blown up?

One-third of deaths in Britain’s military caused by accidents - Home News - UK - The Independent


The US seems to have the same problem. Especially under Reagan :dead:

unnecessary military training deaths

Bob

 

[David Morton]

There had to be one and you are it.
Get a life.......
Have you not read anything during the conflict. Even things that I wrote ?
Every IED, every action , every death in Afganistan is in those statistics. Nothing more. Nothing less.
You can be a total idiot at times.

 

[PeteB]

I am always skeptical when reading stats like this . Any loss of life to these arseholes is unacceptable but are the figures misleading. Here in the UK we lose dozens of soldiers just through training and basically being in the Army. Are these figures just those that have been killed by gunfire or blown up?

One-third of deaths in Britain’s military caused by accidents - Home News - UK - The Independent


The US seems to have the same problem. Especially under Reagan :dead:

unnecessary military training deaths

Bob

Like it or not, serving in the military is dangerous. I recieved a career ending injury during a training exercise that will affect me the rest of my life. I have no bitterness to the USAF about getting injured in training. The medical "care" I recieved after getting injured...well, yeah, I'm a little bitter about that.

 

[David Morton]

Pete,
I can understand your point of view. I too had a couple of injuries though the care here was fantastic and I was back in harness as quick as possible. As far as the statistics above, they were for Operation Enduring Freedom only, and nothing to do with any other theater of operations that ours or your government are involved in. Even Lee Rigby, the army drummer that was murdered on the streets of London does not appear in the numbers.
I kept on at everyone here to write to their politicians about this crazy loss of life during this conflict. I bet hardly anyone did though. Hands up if you did?
It's really easy to mouth off on this website but I asked people to do something on all our behalves - to register the fact that this was a wholly stupid Operation and could only end up in total disaster and defeat and that their countries troops were in harms way for nothing.
Camp Bastion will be overun by the taliban by this weekend. The country will be in the control of the Taliban by mid December.
It was all a stupid waste of young mens lives. The list of amputees is probably ten times as many.
Dave

 

[David Morton]

UK military deaths in Afghanistan: Full list


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10629358

The UK's military role in Afghanistan since 2001 has brought with it a heavy human toll. Members of the Army, RAF, Royal Marines and special forces have lost their lives in the fight against the Taliban. Here, the BBC News website offers a look at who they were and how they died.

The number of deaths stands at 453 after five British service personnel died in a helicopter crash near Kandahar air base on 26 April 2014.

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[Keith]

I certainly did David, both to my local MP Desmond Swayne and the then hopeless incumbent MOD Liam Fox.

You can guess what their lofty replies were.....

And I will have to say to anyone who doubts this: If you are on active service and get killed or maimed in the course of your duty, whether it be by enemy action or a tin of beans falling on your head, you are a casualty of war, and have all the rights and respect due to you.

Any suggestion that injury or death "by other means" is somehow deserves a second rate treatment or consideration is extremely abhorrent to me and I know to many other serving and ex serving members of HM Forces.

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

Spot on Keith, if you are in uniform you are serving, it matters not where an injury happened. Well correction, it does to bloody politicians, who want to limit the compo paid to servicemen, so they (the Pollies) can continue with their cocktails and junkets. Bastards!