I am truly speechless

[Ian K]

Process of Nomination and Selection

February – Deadline for submission. The Committee bases its assessment on nominations that must be postmarked no later than 1 February each year. Nominations postmarked and received after this date are included in the following year's discussions. In recent years, the Committee has received close to 200 different nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The number of nominating letters is much higher, as many are for the same candidates.

Qualified Nominators

(Boldness is mine for emphasis -- Ian)

Qualified Nominators
The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:

1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (<b>proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1</b>) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.

The Nobel Peace Prize may also be awarded to institutions and associations.

 

[Ian K]

Another issue I should point out:

The nomination process actually beings in September of the previous year when
the invitations are sent out, so, potentially, nominations can be made starting
then. Therefore, it is even possible Obama was nominated when he won the
election in November. But, that goes back to an earlier point I made - that
nominations are often made in anticipation of what the nominee may do. Why
is this important? Because the nomination only means the person is considered.
So, even assuming Obama was nominated any time between November of 2008
and February of 2009, his nomination was reviewed all the way through August
of 2009 during the Adviser review period, perhaps even later. In other words,
he may have been nominated any time between September 2008 and March 2009,
his actions from September 2008 through August 2009 are evaluated to determine
whether or not he is deserving of the prize. And, one of the committee members
has been quoted as saying, that is why Obama was selected. His efforts to promote
international peace and change the international relations atmosphere over his first 8
months in office were significant enough that all other nominees considered paled by
comparison. And, not only was this decided by the Nobel Committee, but the Nobel
Advisers as well.

Ian

 

[John]

well i'm no fan of politics or political B.S, but come on give the guy a break , he's had the job for 5 min and you expect him to change the world, Jez wayne, from where i sit if GOD himself was president you'd shoot him down, at least he's trying to do some thing for world peace, and not a war monger like his predicessor, mabe if you had all the answers, as you obviously have , you should give him a ring, hell you might even get a mention in dispatches.
Kaspa

 

[Chris Martino]

He did say he didn't deserve the award, wasn't in the same league as past recipients. The blame (if any) should be on those who saw him fit for the award in the first place.

Chris

 

[Grady]

well i'm no fan of politics or political B.S, but come on give the guy a break , he's had the job for 5 min and you expect him to change the world, Jez wayne, from where i sit if GOD himself was president you'd shoot him down, at least he's trying to do some thing for world peace, and not a war monger like his predicessor, mabe if you had all the answers, as you obviously have , you should give him a ring, hell you might even get a mention in dispatches.
Kaspa

My friend John
Si vis pacem, para bellum from around 39 AD a Roman military writer. Today we say Peace through Strength. Without that you may not be enjoying your life so far away from those of us who have seen our national debt Triple or quadruple. That is more debt than the country has been created since we formed in 1781. All done in 9 months time. Let me say this again, if I wanted to ever drop out and disappear, look for me in NZ or Australia. Beautiful part of the world and so remote, but since we left England 350+ years ago, I like it here. The same people who have fought each other for years or hundreds of years are still fighting in the middle east, and surrounding countries. Iran is racing to destroy the middle east and us here in the US and Europe.
I do not have all the answers as you so easy flipped out, but think, what if I'm not wrong. We (US) are who we are, because we believe in the (our) freedoms our forefathers fought and died. We don't desire to become a Socialistic or Communist country, or have a one world government run by the UN. This president, aided by Congress, is selling us out...and the last president didn't do the country any favors.

This little thing with Nobel prize is right up there with one given to Al Gore. Laughable. His own home state would not vote for him for office...his own people... his neighbors. Isn't there another person in the world who has done more than maybe think about world peace?

We are here at ground zero and have to live with this for another 13 months. Even the people who voted for him don't understand why. I have never heard so many of the 'silent majority' people who have only gone and voted all their lives and not gotten involved with the process until now. They are seeing their country given to the Chinese, their lives and children lives destroyed by a government gone deft and controlling. Those quite people are angry and frustrated. They are mobilizing. Read our history...read what our founding fathers told us about our Rights and Responsibilities as Citizens. Not since the Magna Carta has a document been written about freedom and rights.

Sorry about the rambling....but it is a mess we (US) are in and our government is fiddling while it burns. We cannot help any country if we can't fix this one no matter how much money we print.

Oh yes, I have given him rings, letters, and emails as have other millions have.
Grady Wilson
Asheville, NC
Formally from England/Scotland until Charles II started his reign.

 

[Neal]

Braking news... Obama wins the Heisman Trophy by watching a college football game!

 

[Ian K]

well i'm no fan of politics or political B.S, but come on give the guy a break , he's had the job for 5 min and you expect him to change the world, Jez wayne, from where i sit if GOD himself was president you'd shoot him down, at least he's trying to do some thing for world peace, and not a war monger like his predicessor, mabe if you had all the answers, as you obviously have , you should give him a ring, hell you might even get a mention in dispatches.
Kaspa

Tongue-in-cheekly said, one could say that Obama was nominated and perhaps won the
prize solely because he is not George W. Bush

Ian

 

[John]

Grady, i agree entirly with your sentiment , as an ex vet who has seen active service i now all about freedom and the cost, and agree some one has to have the balls to stand up and lead, ie the U.S, but you cant change the world overnite, sad but true, but at least the man is heading in the right direction. and he cant do it on his own, if we all get behind him the western world as we no it, just may survive.
all i basicly meant was stop the Tall poppy bashing, as thats all it is
rant over, back to the flock
John

 

[Mike Christian]

Grady,

Please don't forget to add in the debt imposed by the last regime...starting the downhill slide. We surely didn't sink this ship in the last 9 months.

Mike

 

[Aaron L.]

Grady,

Please don't forget to add in the debt imposed by the last regime...starting the downhill slide. We surely didn't sink this ship in the last 9 months.

Mike

we did hit a few more icebergs though

 

[chuck smith]

 

[Al Wohlstrom]

Grady,

Please don't forget to add in the debt imposed by the last regime...starting the downhill slide. We surely didn't sink this ship in the last 9 months.

Mike

Please don't forget Clinton and subprime, it may have had a teeny bit to do with passed on debt!

 

[Roark_John]

Awarding Obama the Nobel Prize for Peace, before he has accomplished ANYTHING, is akin to giving every child a full-ride scholarship for college as soon as they are enrolled in Kindergarten, on the basis that they all have the potential to be Valedictorians.

We are not all equal. That is a fact of life. Some of us are stronger, or faster, or smarter, or better looking. Giving every child a gold star so their fragile egos and self-esteem doesn't get damaged, has nothing to do with reality. Introducing the concept of games without winners and losers, defies the very purpose of those games...to encourage skill and ability. Life can be harsh and unfair. Not everyone gets to be Captain of the Football team, or Homecoming Queen. Some of us will wind up being the Janitor at the local high school, not the Principal.

This is yet another example of the ridiculousness of our overly emotional, less rational society vetting these types of policy, attempting to placate the proletariat, so that their overarching goal of totalitarianism can be achieved with little bloodshed. Make the unthinking feel good, while you slowly restrain his ability to move, so if they do attempt to resist, they are bound tightly within the newly established framework of accepted nonsensical wordplay and ever-changing meanings. Feelgood tripe for the masses. A clever manipulation of the definition of winner, don't you agree? By being awarded the Prize, the new assumption is that something was actually done...and this is reinforced by referring to the trophy as proof. This is circular logic...to use a premise to support your point.

"Look at what Big Brother did...he is so wonderful, isn't he? He won the Nobel Peace Prize, he is looking out for Your best interests! All hail Big Brother! Now take your pill and smile pretty."

If it was a prize worth winning, why wasn't he in actual competition with other contestants? Imagine a Nobel Prize competition like the Super Bowl, the World Series, or even the 24 Hours of LeMans. How many worthy nominees would there be then? Remember, in order to finish first, one must first finish. I have seen no finish lines with any of the recent "winners". It is all exercises in mental-masturbation, with the resulting orgasm being their pockets flush with cash, and enthusiastic reception from the Kool-Aid drinkers.

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

Awarding Obama the Nobel Prize for Peace, before he has accomplished ANYTHING, is akin to giving every child a full-ride scholarship for college as soon as they are enrolled in Kindergarten, on the basis that they all have the potential to be Valedictorians.

We are not all equal. That is a fact of life. Some of us are stronger, or faster, or smarter, or better looking. Giving every child a gold star so their fragile egos and self-esteem doesn't get damaged, has nothing to do with reality. Introducing the concept of games without winners and losers, defies the very purpose of those games...to encourage skill and ability. Life can be harsh and unfair. Not everyone gets to be Captain of the Football team, or Homecoming Queen. Some of us will wind up being the Janitor at the local high school, not the Principal.

This is yet another example of the ridiculousness of our overly emotional, less rational society vetting these types of policy, attempting to placate the proletariat, so that their overarching goal of totalitarianism can be achieved with little bloodshed. Make the unthinking feel good, while you slowly restrain his ability to move, so if they do attempt to resist, they are bound tightly within the newly established framework of accepted nonsensical wordplay and ever-changing meanings. Feelgood tripe for the masses. A clever manipulation of the definition of winner, don't you agree? By being awarded the Prize, the new assumption is that something was actually done...and this is reinforced by referring to the trophy as proof. This is circular logic...to use a premise to support your point.

"Look at what Big Brother did...he is so wonderful, isn't he? He won the Nobel Peace Prize, he is looking out for Your best interests! All hail Big Brother! Now take your pill and smile pretty."

If it was a prize worth winning, why wasn't he in actual competition with other contestants? Imagine a Nobel Prize competition like the Super Bowl, the World Series, or even the 24 Hours of LeMans. How many worthy nominees would there be then? Remember, in order to finish first, one must first finish. I have seen no finish lines with any of the recent "winners". It is all exercises in mental-masturbation, with the resulting orgasm being their pockets flush with cash, and enthusiastic reception from the Kool-Aid drinkers.

Great Post +1:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Mike Christian]

who cares - really...so it goes on his mantle.

 

[Roark_John]

That's just it. A Nobel Prize should be a big deal, it originally had meaning attached to it, it was an honor bestowed upon the worthy.

Now it has attained the significance of a trinket from a claw-machine at WalMart. Granted, there is still an air of exclusivity about it...being as it is given now to only the rich & powerful. So they are still better than you.

But if you are satisfied with a faux-gold plastic trophy for 3rd place in your softball league on your mantle, instead of a Nobel Prize (and the attendant $1.2 million award) I can appreciate your position.

who cares - really...so it goes on his mantle.

 

[Mike Christian]

And why should the Nobel Prize be a big deal to me? It is an award given by a few to a few and not a popularity contest award. Just because some of us who don't earn it don't like who gets it makes it less worthy? I don't think so. If so, then the whole premise for giving it is weak.

It isn't an award people strive for, is it? Is there a competitive nature to it? I think not.

I didn't play softball and I won't win the Nobel Prize - I will get over it.
To put it into perspective, I don't care who gets the academy awards either. I kind of think awards are lame.

 

[Mike Christian]

we did hit a few more icebergs though

Most definitely...rough seas ahead...icebergs everywhere. We are going to hit a few for sure.

 

[Mike Christian]

Please don't forget Clinton and subprime, it may have had a teeny bit to do with passed on debt!

No doubt - we deregulated and let the market do it's thing. It took us down. Regulation seems to have been the safety we needed. I hope we learn our lesson and regulate the Health Insurance Industry before it takes us down further.

 

[Mike Christian]

Wyoming, how do you get to here:

"This is yet another example of the ridiculousness of our overly emotional, less rational society vetting these types of policy, attempting to placate the proletariat, so that their overarching goal of totalitarianism can be achieved with little bloodshed. Make the unthinking feel good, while you slowly restrain his ability to move, so if they do attempt to resist, they are bound tightly within the newly established framework of accepted nonsensical wordplay and ever-changing meanings. Feelgood tripe for the masses. A clever manipulation of the definition of winner, don't you agree? By being awarded the Prize, the new assumption is that something was actually done...and this is reinforced by referring to the trophy as proof. This is circular logic...to use a premise to support your point. "

It is a prize awarded by a select few for whatever reason they deem. Who are we to judge what they want to do with their award? People give awards for the ugliest dog too.

How is this all "feelgood tripe for the masses"? You lost me on this turn.