More Global Cooling/Warming/Change hoax.

Larry L.

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Don Beyer says 7,000 Americans died from climate change events in 2014

By Warren Fiske on Monday, March 23rd, 2015 at 11:23 a.m.

After a long career as a car dealer, lieutenant governor and ambassador, Democrat Don Beyer was elected to the U.S. of House Representatives last year with a focus on protecting the planet against climate change.

Beyer, D-8th, reiterated his goal in a March 4 column for the Falls Church News-Press, calling global warming the "existential crisis of our generation, and of course the preeminent environmental issue."

"More than 7,000 Americans lost their lives to climate change-fueled events last year," he wrote.

Beyer posted a similar statement on his congressional website on Feb. 4, saying climate change caused "almost 7,000" U.S. deaths last year. We wondered whether his claim is correct and asked for the source of Beyer’s information.

Thomas Scanlon, a spokesman for Beyer, said the congressman’s office had made a mistake about the 7,000 deaths. "That number should be globally, not just in the United States," he emailed. "We made an error in editing this column for FCNP."

That said, we wondered if there was even proof that 7,000 worldwide deaths were caused by climate change last year. Scanlon referred us to a two-page report on global warming issued in January by the American Academy of Actuaries. It said "global natural loss events" caused 7,700 fatalities last year.

The academy attributed the number to Munich RE, a global insurance company based in Germany that issues an annual report on worldwide losses from natural catastrophes. In a study released in January, the company said 7,700 deaths were caused by global disasters -- including earthquakes, storms, floods, landslides, drought, extreme temperatures and wildfires.

But Munich RE doesn’t assess whether whether the natural catastrophes -- resulting in $110 billion in financial losses last year -- were caused by climate change.

"We do not have the ability to identify the direct impact of global warming on fatalities caused by natural catastrophes, other than to say any fatality caused by the earthquake peril are not due to global warming," emailed Peter Hoeppe, Munich RE’s head of geo risks research. "Our data indicate an upward trend in regard to losses from weather catastrophes which, over time, have increased in both frequency and severity."

Of the 7,700 deaths, Munich RE estimated 850 were caused by earthquakes. The remaining 6,850 deaths, the company wrote, were caused by "weather-related" events.

While there’s no precise way to measure the number of deaths caused by global warming, we should note that many experts believe it will be the root of many fatalities in coming decades. The World Health Organization predicts that an additional 250,000 people -- largely in South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa -- will die annually between 2030 and 2050 because of conditions caused or exacerbated by climate change.

What a buncha absolute C-R-A-P!
 

Larry L.

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""... it was one year ago today that I published a piece at FiveThirtyEight on that same research, which prompted a social and mainstream media campaign to have me fired for voicing such heresies. The Guardian, New York Times, Slate, Salon and even the American Geophysical Union all joined the campaign. Unsurprisingly, FiveThirtyEight succumbed to the pressure, explaining>Reception< to the article ran about 80 percent negative in the >comments< section and on social media. A reaction like that compels us to think carefully about the piece and our editorial process.”

So, scientific consensus vs. Facebook likes - Guess who won?"

(^^^Red highlights = mine)


Of course, members of the 'C.C./G.W. faithful' will likely charge to the defense of FiveThirtyEight saying its decision was 'scientifically based/supported and completely sound'...or some such nonsense.

Watch...
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
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What a buncha absolute C-R-A-P!

Don't ya think there oughta be an "IMHO" after that, Larry? :poke:

OK, so here's an opinion from a left-leaning, but not LIBERAL, interested observer...there are deaths every year from naturally occuring disasters, but a statistic that I would find interesting is a chart (where the hell is Jim C when you need him???) that shows how many "weather" related deaths are claimed for each year over a longitudinal study...if those deaths increase at a rate GREATER THAN THE GROWTH rate of the world population, then there's something to investigate there.

The earth goes through cyclic "heat-up/cool-down" climate changes, always has and always will. We need MORE scientists studying this phenomenon...and because we need the best we can get, considering the grave nature of ignoring what might be a terrible trend that could be a "extinction risk" for man, we need to pay them WAAAAY more than we have been just so that they are sure they get the data right.

There can't be any doubt about that.

Unless we want to continue to hide our heads in the sand and :dead:

OK, so there's more than a bit of tongue-in-cheek there....admittedly to see if all y'all rabid conservatives might read through something that you find objectionable just to see if there might be merit to the issue. Do I need to say "GOTCHA!"?

Cheers!

Doug
 
This is what a mind looks like on a lifetime of liberal crack;


Don't ya think there oughta be an "IMHO" after that, Larry? :poke:

OK, so here's an opinion from a left-leaning, but not LIBERAL, interested observer...there are deaths every year from naturally occuring disasters, but a statistic that I would find interesting is a chart (where the hell is Jim C when you need him???) that shows how many "weather" related deaths are claimed for each year over a longitudinal study...if those deaths increase at a rate GREATER THAN THE GROWTH rate of the world population, then there's something to investigate there.

The earth goes through cyclic "heat-up/cool-down" climate changes, always has and always will. We need MORE scientists studying this phenomenon...and because we need the best we can get, considering the grave nature of ignoring what might be a terrible trend that could be a "extinction risk" for man, we need to pay them WAAAAY more than we have been just so that they are sure they get the data right.

There can't be any doubt about that.

Unless we want to continue to hide our heads in the sand and :dead:

OK, so there's more than a bit of tongue-in-cheek there....admittedly to see if all y'all rabid conservatives might read through something that you find objectionable just to see if there might be merit to the issue. Do I need to say "GOTCHA!"?

Cheers!

Doug
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
This is what a mind looks like on a lifetime of liberal crack;

I think a more accurate response would be that his post illustrates better critical thinking skill in supporting an opinion, rather than simply throwing out a quote and a link to site, whose article was rather confusing at best in that the quote has little relationship to the content of the study/funding/politics/public response relationship. Have you not even a shred of balance to see that both sides of this argument are subjected to the same type of intimidation noted in the article?

A perfect example would be Cruz' well-communicated bend toward only funding NASA projects that do not study global warming science. That's what I like in a leader (as Doug noted)...one that if he cannot stick his head in the sand, he will ensure he sticks everybody else's head in the sand.

The entire notion that there is no conservative intimidation of the sciences (which is what is implied by the quote from the article) supporting global warming by human activities is just too bizarre to comprehend.
 
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Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
OK, so there's more than a bit of tongue-in-cheek there....admittedly to see if all y'all rabid conservatives might read through something that you find objectionable just to see if there might be merit to the issue. Do I need to say "GOTCHA!"?

Cheers!

Doug

This is what a mind looks like on a lifetime of liberal crack;

GOTCHA!!! :pepper:

Doug
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
Here's another "climate change" loon who illustrates just how 'far out there' some of the backers of C.C./G.W. will go to come up with yet another 'consequence' of C.C./G.W. that requires strooooooooong GOVERNMENT ACTION to head off/prevent. In this case suggesting government should use “gender-sensitive frameworks in developing policies to address climate change.” (The only thing this dame leaves out is the admonition that anyone who voices opposition to her proposal is, by that action, a willing participant the "War on Women". She BLEW that opportunity. :annoyed:):

House Dem Warns Climate Change Will Force Millions Of Poor Women To Engage In ‘Transactional Sex’ « CBS DC


An aside: I first saw this story on FOX...buuuuut, knowing any story reported by that network is automatically dismissed as "lies" by a couple of the C.C./G.W. 'faithful' around here (and lefties in general), I chose to 'source' CBS instead. 'Same story...'same quotes...buuuuuut, on FOX it's all LIES. :sneaky:
 
It will also cause giant bats to fly out of their butts, where the hell do these people come up with this garbage? Unfortunately there are those that will believe this.
 
Elon musk, Australian multibillionaire through sale of PayPal, loses hundreds of millions of dollars through his companies, tesla motors and solar city, yet comes out profitable from U.S. Subsidies!
 

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Larry L.

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^^^ I don't believe anyone who has a brain that functions normally believes that "green energy" products of a-n-y kind can 'make it' w/o taxpayer support.
 

Jeff Young

GT40s Supporter
I love this argument.

It's usually advanced by people who don't know the first fucking thing about the power business.

The per kilowatt per hour generation cost of hydro is the cheapest there is. ON shore wind is about the same as coal, off shore admittedly more expensive. Solar isn't cheap but it's less expensive than LNG or Nuke.

And please, without ANY google searching, list out for me the subsidies we have for:

1: REnewables; versus

2. PEtro products?

I'm in favor of a reasonable balance of nuke/fossil/renewables. But the absurd, ill informed reaction of the right to progress in new energy sources is laughably old mannish.

When the Germans power their grid with 80% renewables will you finally crap in your old man diapers?
 

Jeff Young

GT40s Supporter
^^^ I don't believe anyone who has a brain that functions normally believes that "green energy" products of a-n-y kind can 'make it' w/o taxpayer support.

And before anyone gets their panties in a wad about my first post above and rude this or demeaning that, HERE is where it start.

I not only have a functioning bain, but I work in the power business and know that green energy products routinely make people very wealthy without taxpayer support.

So yeah, Larry's bullshit was a personal insult to ME. He doesn't get a free pass with his nonsense
 
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