Argentine Shipping Embargo

Pete McCluskey.

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I think a wee bit of sabre rattling by the Argies to get the state of the economy off the front page.
If they are serious they have bloody short memories!
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
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Here in the U.S.A. we call that "Wagging the dog".....takes the public's attention off the serious issues and is good for business.

Doug
 

David Morton

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First subsea activity starts today and I guess all the seismic has been concluded. Expect a good result in a very short time.
How long before the Argentinians are baying for blood?
It's in their nature, even if they can't afford to do anything.
As they approach Autumn and then Winter, can they even muster a queue for the NAAFI van. Last time they tried to land they were only wearing Temperate kit and a bit like the march on Moscow with Wermacht and their Operation Barbarosso, any attempt to do anything is flawed before they start. A campaign in Winter in the Falkland Islands is akin to living rough in the Shetland's northernmost island Unst. You freeze.
 
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David,

It wasn't a catwalk for you guys either back then. I remember all sorts of military types descusing what was going on. I was a reservist back then. First test for the Modern Type Frigate. I remember the effects of a Exocet on the Sheiffield and the loss of the Sir Tristram, left a few guys on the shore lacking ordinace. Of course many of the bombs they were dropping were made by you guys.
We will have to wait and see what happens this time.
Dave
 

David Morton

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Navy intercepts Argentinian warship near British waters

The Royal Navy has intercepted an Argentinian warship near British waters in an apparent escalation of the row over the Falkland Islands.



Published: 10:51AM GMT 25 Feb 2010

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Ocean Guardian oil rig in the Cromarty Firth, near Invergordon, Scotland. The British rig has begun drilling for oil in the territorial waters of the Falkland Islands, despite strong opposition from Argentina Photo: EPA


Destroyer HMS York spotted the vessel around ten miles inside the disputed “oil zone” around the South Atlantic islands.
The British crew had to radio the Argentinian ship, a smaller corvette named ARA Drummond, to demand that it change its course.
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Sources told The Sun that the ship made an “innocent navigational blunder” and were embarrassed about the mistake.


It is believed that the Drummond was spotted sailing alongside a French fleet before it broke away and headed for the disputed zone.
Under international law, the 15 miles of sea surrounding the Falklands are officially British waters.
The ship was spotted around 65 miles from the islands, in an area of sea called the “conservation zone”.
It is in this zone that the oil exploration is taking place. It is not illegal for Argentinian ships to enter it but the incident has heightened tensions.
A spokesman for the MoD played down the incident, insisting that the radio communication had been “friendly”.
He said: “We can confirm that on 28 January this year during rough weather and at night, HMS YORK and an Argentine ship were operating in the same locality in international waters around 50 miles from Falkland Island Territorial Waters. After a friendly dialogue by radio they each continued with their own exercises.”
On Wednesday the MoD said that HMS York would remain the area around the islands. A British submarine has also been dispatched to the Falklands to patrol the area.
Argentina has since protested to the UN about the British oil exploration. Its foreign minister is due to meet Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.
 

David Morton

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And a nice bit of Jingoism in the Times:

I’m not crying for Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner

This idea that Argentina owns the Falklands is bonkers

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Is it just because they’re next door? We’ve got France next door. You’ve got Brazil next door. Are these also problems worth whining about to the UN?
Or is it because, for a brief period about 200 years ago, you owned them? Oh guys, trust me, you don’t want to get us started on the stuff we briefly owned about 200 years ago. By that logic, we still own Canada. We almost own America.
Indeed, we made a decent stab at owning you. But we gave up on that sort of thing, quite famously, because the people who lived in all these places didn’t fancy it. A bit like the people on the Falkland Islands don’t fancy being owned by you.
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<!-- END: Module - M63 - Article Related Attachements -->“Aha!” you might say, in your weirdly accented Spanish. “But those people don’t count, for they are not indigenous.” Well, true. But neither is anybody. Certainly not you. I mean, if there was anybody in Stanley 7,000 years ago, then they weren’t light-skinned and called things like Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, were they? Honestly, where do you people get off calling us colonialists? Generally speaking, we gave our empire back. You moved to yours, and then basically killed everybody. Forgive me, but I just don’t see how this puts you in a morally superior position.
I don’t mean to sound overly jingoistic, here. We’re pretty good at unpatriotic self-loathing, us Brits. Remember, we invented the BBC. Guilt is pretty much our default diplomatic position, these days. We tiptoe meekly around, still worrying that a third of the world hates us for drawing up their lethally impractical borders on the back of napkins, and that another third does for getting them hooked on opium.
We didn’t make a fuss about Hong Kong. We blush when the Greeks go on about the Elgin Marbles, even if we don’t let on. Any day now, we’ll probably start apologising for railways and penicillin. But we’re OK with the Falkland Islands. They don’t make us feel guilty at all. Not even the teeniest bit. So
 

Pete McCluskey.

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As I said earlier the Argies should learn from quite recent history. Silly buggers.
 

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David Morton

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An article I missed - from the Gurniad newspaper last week.



Argentina appeals to UN over Falklands oil drilling



Buenos Aires moves ahead with sovereignty claim following mobilising of Latin American support against BritainRory Carroll, Latin America correspondent

The Guardian, Thursday 25 February 2010

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A man burns a British flag in Buenos Aires as Latin American and Caribbean nations backed Argentina's claim of sovereignty to the Falkland Islands. Photograph: Natacha Pisarenko/Associated Press

Argentina last night intensified its diplomatic offensive against Britain's oil exploration off the Falkland Islands by taking the case to the United Nations.
The Argentinian foreign minister, Jorge Taiana, spelled out Buenos Aires's demands in a meeting in New York with the UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, just a day after mobilising Latin American and Caribbean support.
Taiana told reporters afterwards that Ban was not happy that tensions had worsened because of Britain's decision to start drilling and was willing to continue his "good offices" mission.
The minister said the meeting was "very cordial, positive" but did not say if Ban had agreed to pressure London over the islands' sovereignty. The secretary general made no immediate comment.
Argentina has demanded an immediate cessation of the British drilling for oil and gas that started this week, terming it "the latest illegitimate and unilateral actions by the UK". The next step would be to table a resolution at the UN general assembly.
The UN has called for talks between Britain and Argentina but has little power to intervene without the backing of the security council, where the UK would be able to veto substantive resolutions.
Brazil's president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, added pressure by saying the council was an anachronism tilted in favour of western powers. He said: "It is not possible that Argentina is not the owner while England is, despite being 14,000km away."
He also repeated long-standing complaints that Brazil and other emerging powers should be included as permanent members of the security council.
British officials have privately admitted frustration, but no great surprise, that mainstream Latin leaders have thrown their weight behind Buenos Aires.
After the Argentinian minister's meeting with the UN secretary-general, Sir Mark Lyall Grant, the UK's permanent representative to the UN, reiterated British claims to sovereignty over the Falkland islands, South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands.
"This position is underpinned by the principle of self-determination as set out in the UN Charter. We are also clear that the Falkland Islands government is entitled to develop a hydrocarbons industry within its waters, and we support this legitimate business in Falklands' territory." In a statement yesterday Downing Street said drilling would continue.
With Argentina's regional allies lining up to denounce London, the Obama administration, which wants to improve US ties with Latin America without alienating Britain, sought to distance itself from the row.
"I think we are neutral on the question of sovereignty. We do recognise the &shy;current UK administration of the islands," said Philip Crowley, of the US state department, before urging "good-faith dialogue" between Buenos Aires and London.
The sovereignty standoff flared this month over the arrival of a rig, the Ocean Guardian, which is to drill offshore for oil and gas deposits.
Buenos Aires scored a diplomatic victory on Monday when it turned a summit of 32 countries in Mexico into a platform to accuse Britain of flouting international law by permitting drilling.
Argentina presented a statement quoting the Mexican president, Felipe Calderón, as saying that "the heads of state represented here reaffirm their support for the legitimate rights of the republic of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute with Great Britain."
The Argentinian president, Cristina Kirchner, ruled out any plans to try to keep the British boats or rigs out.
"We do not believe in methods like blockades," she told reporters. But in her speech at the summit she reiterated Argentina's claim to the islands and blamed the Foreign Office for fanning tensions.
She said: "When in these last few days England decided to install an oil rig offshore and Argentina – in exercise of its domestic law – made decisions as a sovereign state, the Foreign Office floated the idea of a potential war threat by Argentina."

Cristina Kirchner, its time for a bit more Botox - this time forget your lips - try it in your brain.
Dave M
 
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Keith

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The old alliance still holds!

GREAT NEWS!

Despite savage US defence spending cuts, The Obama Administration have shown their resolve to support us by sending a gunboat too!

Thanks guys..... more than welcome.. :thumbsup:

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She saw great service in the Yangtse and has been mothballed in Virginia since.

Argies will see that coming and run like rabbits.:laugh:

("Live stim go here then round and round, then dead stim come out here"

"Stim DEAD?" Yes, stim dead") Steve McQueen RIP
 
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