Does anybody see the strings and pole that the cars are attached to at the Daytona 500 ?
I don't see the attraction to turning left !
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I don't see the attraction to turning left !
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Cars on a string !
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Lynn Larsen
Lynn Larsen
Roundy-rounds are a bit ho-hum, no doubt. But, it is the Daytona 500; sorta like the Indy 500, just a tradition for me to watch it. Other than the road courses it's the only NASCAR race I watch.
It's a wonder they'll even let me on the Speed website as I have been very vocal with them since they drank the NASCAR cool-aide. I also busted their chops when I noticed that David Hobbs wasn't listed with the other on-screen "talent."
Lynn
It's a wonder they'll even let me on the Speed website as I have been very vocal with them since they drank the NASCAR cool-aide. I also busted their chops when I noticed that David Hobbs wasn't listed with the other on-screen "talent."
Lynn
You got that right Lynn..... lots of cool aid !!!
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NO PROBLEM ROB !!!!
Those who know me are aware of my grenade throwing attitude !
Don't get me wrong, I used to think NASCAR was cool when I was a youngster. Back then the cars weren't front wheel drive from the factory, they had four and 2 four barrel carbs, and they ran engines like the 427 Cammer, 426 Hemi, and the MK IV Chevy. Now all thats changed, WAY TO MANY RESTRICTIVE RULES and the racing SUCKS.
All I wan't is this....
BRING BACK GROUP 7 !
NO RULES...JUST RIGHT.
S
Those who know me are aware of my grenade throwing attitude !
Don't get me wrong, I used to think NASCAR was cool when I was a youngster. Back then the cars weren't front wheel drive from the factory, they had four and 2 four barrel carbs, and they ran engines like the 427 Cammer, 426 Hemi, and the MK IV Chevy. Now all thats changed, WAY TO MANY RESTRICTIVE RULES and the racing SUCKS.
All I wan't is this....
BRING BACK GROUP 7 !
NO RULES...JUST RIGHT.
S
Lynn Larsen
Lynn Larsen
It did have a pretty wild finish!
The carnage, the big one that they speak of-- I think that is why a lot of people watch NASCAR. The same reason and the same group that watch professional wrestling.
The carnage, the big one that they speak of-- I think that is why a lot of people watch NASCAR. The same reason and the same group that watch professional wrestling.
If you've ever raced wheel-to-wheel in a crowd at speeds over 100mph, you would have a much greater appreciation of the NASCAR racers. You won't see many F1 races that pack as much action into their races. The closest thing we can come to it in a road racing venue is the British Touring Cars and the Aussie V8 Supercars. Unfortunately they televise very little of either of them here these days.
It was a pretty good race this year at Daytona. I was really hoping that Mark Martin could pull off the win, but it wasn't to happen (yet).. Kevin Harvick's car is probably still in the shed being inspected along with the other top 5 cars.
It was a pretty good race this year at Daytona. I was really hoping that Mark Martin could pull off the win, but it wasn't to happen (yet).. Kevin Harvick's car is probably still in the shed being inspected along with the other top 5 cars.
eheh, I love to see your discussion over nascars..
There are many different points of view also there I see,but I think the greatest point of nascar races is the show (and teh people)indeed.
Think Disney pixar helped a lot people in knowing the serie (kmon...its "Cars" at all...ihihihi),was just missing the writing PISTON cup on the road.
Daytona is something too traditional,hope one day I can be there to see that live,also if I think Indianapolis is really another matter (and think harder oval to drive in..).
Sure, being european and italian I cant compare such ones with the Nurburgring or Le Mans long distance races, but..u know..I love theme too.
Just didnt see "the DOC" and "sally Carrera" at the pits yesterday..boomsmile
Paolo
There are many different points of view also there I see,but I think the greatest point of nascar races is the show (and teh people)indeed.
Think Disney pixar helped a lot people in knowing the serie (kmon...its "Cars" at all...ihihihi),was just missing the writing PISTON cup on the road.
Daytona is something too traditional,hope one day I can be there to see that live,also if I think Indianapolis is really another matter (and think harder oval to drive in..).
Sure, being european and italian I cant compare such ones with the Nurburgring or Le Mans long distance races, but..u know..I love theme too.
Just didnt see "the DOC" and "sally Carrera" at the pits yesterday..boomsmile
Paolo
I used to be a big fan of NASCAR before it got trendy. Some of my earliest memories are those watching the Daytona 500 on ABC's Wide World of Sports. In the 80's I attended as many event as I could in the Northeast (read Pocono Raceway). Just to be around those heroes from my youth was exciting.
But something changed along the way. Things have become extremely corporate and self-promoting. The sport has evolved itself into a cross between Championship Wresting and Saturday morning cartoons. I can safely say that after living an hour from Daytona for the last 13 years I have only seen 1 NASCAR race at the Speedway. The only reason to go to Daytona anymore is for Historic racing and of course, the Rolex 24.
I don't have a problem with oval track racing in general - I love the IRL - it's just that NASCAR has gotten out of hand. Don't even get me started on restrictor plate racing. Speed channel - they just plain sold out. How much more of NASCAR on Speed can we take???
All right, I've ranted enough...
But something changed along the way. Things have become extremely corporate and self-promoting. The sport has evolved itself into a cross between Championship Wresting and Saturday morning cartoons. I can safely say that after living an hour from Daytona for the last 13 years I have only seen 1 NASCAR race at the Speedway. The only reason to go to Daytona anymore is for Historic racing and of course, the Rolex 24.
I don't have a problem with oval track racing in general - I love the IRL - it's just that NASCAR has gotten out of hand. Don't even get me started on restrictor plate racing. Speed channel - they just plain sold out. How much more of NASCAR on Speed can we take???
All right, I've ranted enough...
todh said:
Agreed. As mentioned by Pete in another thread, the corporate attitude is "win at all costs", and although the bean counters will never admit that, safety seems to me to be a low priority. This is evidenced by the huge pileup at the end--everyone taking unsafe risks in an effort to come through "in the money" and make the corporate types happy. I much prefer the amateur events where safety is prioritized over winning. The racing is just as exciting for me.
As for "go fast, turn left", I find that boring, too. Give me a good ol' road race with some twisties any day!
Doug
Absolutely Doug!!!
Look at how long it tok to get the SAFER barriers erected in the walls. In addition, it took the deaths of two drivers (Earnhardt Sr and Adam Petty) before HANS devices became mandatory.
Restrictor plate racing is an accident waiting to happen. We've seen that time and time again.
Look at how long it tok to get the SAFER barriers erected in the walls. In addition, it took the deaths of two drivers (Earnhardt Sr and Adam Petty) before HANS devices became mandatory.
Restrictor plate racing is an accident waiting to happen. We've seen that time and time again.
Lynn Larsen
Lynn Larsen
Tod,
Can't agree more. I grew up around stock car racing (my family went every saturday night after ¼ midgets on saturday - I started racing when I was 4) and my dad was always turning wrenches on one buddies car or another. But, it is just not the same anymore!
As for television: if the regular broadcast networks weren't enough, as if Fox wasn't enough, as if Speed wasn't enough, it looks like NASCAR is about to take over ESPN2 as well (how about Professional Wrestling + Roller Derby + saturday morning cartoons!)
And speaking of Dale Earnhardt, he is probably turning cart wheels in his grave with the crap going on between Jr., his step mother and DEI. Damned shame!
Can't agree more. I grew up around stock car racing (my family went every saturday night after ¼ midgets on saturday - I started racing when I was 4) and my dad was always turning wrenches on one buddies car or another. But, it is just not the same anymore!
As for television: if the regular broadcast networks weren't enough, as if Fox wasn't enough, as if Speed wasn't enough, it looks like NASCAR is about to take over ESPN2 as well (how about Professional Wrestling + Roller Derby + saturday morning cartoons!)
And speaking of Dale Earnhardt, he is probably turning cart wheels in his grave with the crap going on between Jr., his step mother and DEI. Damned shame!
I think the problem is, NASCAR has turned into simply a show, not a race for true race fans. The F1 comment a few messages up is a good example of this. Yes, F1 has certainly dried up a bit as well, but there is something to say about using the gears, the brakes, and both ends of the steering rack.