Discovered a ZF

Michael Holmes

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while wondering through a warehouse that belongs to a client i came across this ZF. I plan on making an offer on it but wanted to know if in good condition what would it be worth?

Is this one that would be good in a GT40?

Thanks in advance,
 

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David Morton

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Short answer - yes. Its a 5DS25-2 with the 4.22 crown wheel and Pinion. Needs inverting and top mounting panel to replace existing plus the bell housing for clutch asembly. Usually deemed to be almost indestructable though make sure the internals are OK and not rusty if it's been sat for a long time. Otherwise a neat discovery.
 
Looks like its been in a Pantera or input shaft high application so will need the Ring Gear flipped to other side & appropriate top cover with mount lugs plus a few other bits & bobs for GT40...
 
FWIW, that's a later-production ZF out of a Pantera. It was probably made in the 1980s sometime as evidenced by the ID tag on the right side of the case, rather than on the left side (shifter box cover).

Any used ZF like this is a crapshoot. I recently bought a long-sitting gearbox like this, which looked to be in similar condition. Once we opened it up, it was a bit of a disaster inside. All the gears, ring and pinion etc. were in great shape, but there was evidence that it had been dropped while in storage and a surprising amount ($$$) of internal damage took place. Fixing it was a straightforward process involving the replacement of several key components, none of which was cheap.

How well do you know the seller? Would he entertain an offer of X dollars/pounds minus the cost to repair any hidden damage? That would require opening it up for inspection and delivering it to the hands of an expert well-versed in such things, capable of both repairing any damage and making a cash assessment of the cost to perform such repairs. That's the deal I had with the seller of my gearbox. I made an initial offer, pending a successful internal inspection; once it was opened up, my offer to him went down commensurate with the additional cost to repair the damage (above and beyond the expected costs of replacing 2nd gear synchro, etc. which are part and parcel of a rebuild of just about any ZF)

Although he was disappointed that he didn't get as much for his gearbox as he hoped, he fully understood the reason behind it and there were no hard feelings.
 

Kelly

Lifetime Supporter
If you buy the -2 and dont need those pantera side mounts, I'd be interested in buying them. I'd say that was almost certainly installed in a running Pantera because the ZFs sold as spares did not include the cast Pantera side mounts.

Best,
Kelly
 

Jim Rosenthal

Supporter
Interesting to see a -2 transaxle with the mechanical clutch arrangement- my -2 did not have that as it had been made for a BMW. This one is better for a GT40 as you already have the stuff for the external clutch cylinder on it..

You do have to invert it and go through it. I can recommend Ron McCall for this, he has done quite a few of them. There are always two or three in the shop, plus a Pantera or two around being worked on and updated. He is in Maryland.
 

John B

Temp Selling Pass
On ebay there is a engine and ZF buy it now for 6 grand. I know the seller..this is a buy and negotiable.
 
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