F1 in 2016

Ian Anderson

Lifetime Premier Supporter
Surely this thread should be locked down as there is far too much politics involved in F1 for an open debate?
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Renault are buying the Lotus team in the next week and are still going to be an engine supplier for Red Bull, I dont understand the re badging of the engine supplier side of things to TAG Heuer ?? I thought Ron Dennis had his finger in the TAG pie, Ferrari are supplying engines for Toro Rosso . Its all a little confusing and incestuous ,there seems to be a conflict of interests to say the least. McHonda have announced a huge step forward for their 2016 car:stunned:


Professor Plumpe

School for Scandal
You read it here first. TAG dropped McLaren publicly a month ago and coincided with Monsewer OJ (or whatever his darned name is) divesting himself of McLaren shares.

The TAG moniker is just a marketing tool as it was back in the day of the TAG Porsche V6 F1 turbo. It is still a Renault engine and homologated by them so despite rumours to the contrary, Red Bull will not have the option of a separate engine development path - it is 100% Renault.

What IS interesting is that Torro Rosso will get the current *CORRECTION* it will be 2015. Sorry. Ferrari lump, but what about Red Bull? Will TR be allowed to go at the 'senior' team?

The only unresolved issues are: Will Ferdi the Samurai take a year off? My prediction is that he will wait until winter testing. If the car is no good - he'll walk. I'll bet it's in his contract. It won't be an issue, McLaren have a surfeit of talented youngsters waiting in the wings.

Will CVC be sold? Rumours abound that it will be before Christmas and if so, will they retain an 85 year old as CEO? Whatever you may think of him, he has remarkable stamina for his age...

Finally, the strangest news is that both Vertically Challenged F1 supremos have been given sweeping powers to ramp up the appeal of F1. Talk about poachers turned gamekeepers.

Jack and Ian, thank you for your incisive comments.. :)
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I read where COTA maybe dropped (listed as provisional) because the state of Texas cut funding of the track.
With current world events, who of you would go to Azerbaijan to see a race in the capital of Baku?

Jeff Young

Bronze Supporter
So everything I read in Aston Martin world is that they are serious about a buy in to Force India (well, really Mercedes) with FI and Nico H. becoming essentially a second Mercedes factory team.

Of course, the monkey wrench here may be Perez who really turned it up the last half of the year at FI and probably deserves the No. 1 seat.

Will be interesting to see the wings on a F1 car -- has Aston competed before?

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Premier Supporter
Yes they have.

Aston Martin DBR4
Category Formula One
Constructor Aston Martin
Designer(s) Ted Cutting
Successor Aston Martin DBR5
Technical specifications
Chassis Steel spaceframe.
Suspension (front) Double wishbone, with coilover spring/damper units.
Suspension (rear) de Dion tube, located by trailing arms, with torsion bars.
Axle track 1,308 mm (51.50 in)
Wheelbase 2,362 mm (92.99 in)
Engine Aston Martin 2,493 cc (152.1 cu in) DOHC straight-6. Naturally aspirated, front-mounted.
Transmission David Brown CG537 5-speed manual.
Weight 625 kg (1,378 lb)
Competition history
Notable entrants David Brown Corporation
Notable drivers United Kingdom Roy Salvadori
United States Carroll Shelby
Debut 1959 Dutch Grand Prix
Races Wins Poles F.Laps
5 0 0 0
n.b. Unless otherwise stated, all data refer to
Formula One World Championship Grands Prix only.
The Aston Martin DBR4/250, commonly referred to simply as the DBR4, is a Formula One racing car, designed by Ted Cutting for the sports car manufacturer Aston Martin. Following notable successes in sports car racing during the mid- to late-1950s — culminating in winning the 24 Hours of Le Mans endurance race and the World Sportscar Championship title in 1959 — the DBR4 was intended to repeat this success in the highest tier of open-wheel racing.

The DBR4 was largely based on the DB3S sportscar, and borrowed that vehicle's basic chassis and engine layout. Although it was tested as early as 1957, the DBR4 did not make its World Championship debut until the 1959 Dutch Grand Prix, driven by Roy Salvadori and Carroll Shelby. However, its long gestation period meant that by the time it finally entered competition much of its concept and technology had been superseded, and the car was not a success. The DBR4 was replaced by the lighter Aston Martin DBR5/250 in early 1960, but when that car also failed to provide competitive results Aston Martin abandoned Formula One to concentrate on their more successful sports car projects.