F1 is boring me to death!!!!

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DavidTC

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David
I would not disagree on the likely re-fueling strategies. Thanks for the inside track on the wind conditions; the red cars looked to be well sorted to gain competitive advantage from the starnge aero conditions. What news on the sand ?.
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David Morton

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Re: F1 is boring me to death!!!!
Oh no it isn't /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif
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DavidTC

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Agreed
It is shaping up to be a very competitive season.Excellent Renault teamwork to get Fernando out ahead of Michael.
Nice to see the young Rosberg make such an outstanding showing; a chip off the old block, his dad was a great racer.
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David Morton

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Pat Symonds - Master Tactician at work.
Fisichella - ECU (engine map problem) and Hydraulic pump failure, but the engine will probably still be good for Sepang.
 
I'd watched young Rosberg in GP2 and he's a real racer like his Dad - good at overtaking as she showed during Sunday's Grand Prix. He wasn't far behind Webber despite having to come in for a new nose cone etc.
I remember his dad Keke setting the first ever 150 mph lap of Silverstone in a Williams. At that time Woodcote was a fast sweep which most people treated with a confidence lift going in. Keke went through flat and later revealed one of his rear tyes had started deflating half way round the lap! Big balls....
 

Pete McCluskey.

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Yep. I bet Dad is proud. A terrific race. Maybe we should change the name of this thread to F1 could really be exciting. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif
 
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DavidTC

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Funny how we all have different memories of different drivers at different races.For me the greatest lap ever was the opening lap of the 1993 Donnington European GP when in virtually zero visability in pouring rain Senna stormed past Prost,Hill and Shumacher.We tend to remember all condition racers like Mansell,Shumacher and Senna rather than the technical perfectionists like Prost who never really raced in wet conditions (bit like the oval racers really !)
Nigel Mansells first GP win at Brands Hatch in 85 also sticks in the mind as does Rosbergs storming drive in the same race to take the final podium position.
Others will have different thoughts no doubt.
David
 

Pat Buckley

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Rosberg did the same thing at Laguna Seca in a Can Am car - 1978 - on the original track turns 1 and 2 were sweepers that required a lift - until Keke did them flat out....on his second lap through he lost it and totalled the car.
 
Yes, I remember the Senna and Mansell races too. In fact, when Mansell won, the FIA had recently prohibited laps of honour at the end of the race. Unfortunately, Mansells car stopped (broken down he said!) just after the start/finish line. He was given a lift back to the pits in the back of an open topped Land Rover that just happened to be passing. Of course, it would have been against the rules to drive against the direction of racing, so the driver had to drive Mansell all the way round the track. When we (the crowd) realised what was happening we went wild with applause as we were getting a lap of honour. The track was temporarily invaded to get closer to our hero and I made the centre fold of Motor Sport that month as their photographer just happened to be there. Probably not the prettiest centre fold, but Mother liked it!!

Dave Tickle
 
Anybody going to the Malaysian Grand Prix????

I'm working in Singapore at the moment and have booked a day trip to the GP with a colleague. It's a 6 hour coach trip each way, but worth it I think. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif
We will be in K1 Gold stand.

Now. If Kimi can start near the front of the grid and Jenson gets his a**e into gear and the car off the line then we could be up for some fun.

Dave Morton. Will you be there? If I see your Antennae rotating, I'll try to say hello again, but I don't expect to have much free time on this trip.

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David Morton

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Fisicos engine is now back on the Dyno at Viry, near Paris
and the Renault engineers are looking at the defect he suffered in the race. He had a 50hp deficit until Hydraulic failure finished his race.
Because he retired, the rules say he can have a new engine in Sepang without penalty.
 

David Morton

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Re Wing mirrors. I asked Pat Symonds the question about the apparent flexing and this is the answer:
I suspect that part of what is being seen on the "in car" camera is an aliasing effect from high frequency vibration which is aliased by the 25 Hz TV signal.
Definitely not an aerodynamic aid!
 
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DavidTC

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David
many thanks for the insightful feedback. Not quite sure I follow the aliasing argument. Why only the LHS mirror and why only Renault?.
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Pete McCluskey.

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Well done Fisi. Go you good thing Mark, is Rosberg the next champ? Fuel loads will tell.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif
 
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DavidTC

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The V8 engines seem to be less reliable than the V10's, we need to re-visit the earlier part of the thread where that view was questioned.
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David Morton

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David Morton

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David,
on the face of it, it would seem that the V8 is having problems. However it was a second race in high ambient temperatures for Alonso and apart from carrying 80L+ at the start and minor electrical gremlins ( F/Pump and sufficient amps) both the Renault cars were on good form.
OK Fisi was on a new unit but that will show if it's tired or not in Melbourne.
Maybe still to early in the season to evaluate anything
but on current evidence 2nd race engines that have done fast laps on 1st race seem to quite happily grenade themselves.ie Heidfeld's engine was used in Bahrein and Rosberg did the fastest lap also in Bahrein.
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David Morton

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Re: F1 is not at all boring.!

Renault Press release:

Malaysian GP, Sunday - 19 MAR 2006

The 2006 Malaysian GP was an historic race for the Renault F1 Team, as drivers Giancarlo Fisichella and Fernando Alonso took the team's first ever one-two since Renault returned to the sport as a works manufacturer in the 2002 season, and only the second one-two finish in Renault's Formula One history, the last occasion being at the 1982 French Grand Prix.

Giancarlo Fisichella bounced back in style from a disappointing retirement in the Bahraini Grand Prix seven days ago, controlling the Malaysian Grand Prix from start to finish. Running a two-stop strategy, the Italian made a perfect start from pole position and did not put a foot wrong all afternoon. He pitted on laps 19 and 38, and ran an otherwise untroubled race as his R26 car and RS26 V8 engine did not miss a beat.

Fernando Alonso started from a lowly seventh position after problems in qualifying, but much of the disadvantage had been eradicated by the time he reached turn two. A lightning start, and a daring outside pass on both Williams drivers under braking into the first corner, meant the Spaniard emerged from the opening corners in third position. After holding off the lighter Williams of Mark Webber during the opening laps, and conserving his tyres for what would be a very long first stint, the Spaniard began to show the true pace of the R26. His two-stop strategy saw him visit the pits on laps 26 and 43, as he vaulted ahead of Jenson Button's Honda into second position, which he held comfortably to the flag.

The Renault F1 Team leads the Constructors' Championship with 28 points from the opening two races. Fernando Alonso heads the Drivers' Championship on 18 points, while Giancarlo Fisichella is fourth on 10 points. The RS26 V8 engine has also taken both race wins under the new V8 regulations, and Fernando Alonso's engine completed its first two-race life with a total of 18 points scored from a possible 20.

Giancarlo Fisichella, Winner
It was a perfect race for me, but it was very tough physically and mentally. It was really, really hot out there and I began to feel it from mid-race onwards. I knew it would be hard but there was no choice but to push all the way to the end. So I did. I didn't want to lose concentration in the last laps, and everything went well, the car and engine were perfect too. I am really so happy for this win. And I am especially pleased because I am dedicating the win to a friend who died last week, Pietro. To have my race engineer Alan Permane on the podium alongside me was special too. Thank you to the whole team, this is a brilliant result.

Fernando Alonso, 2nd position
From my point of view, I think things could have been different without the problems in qualifying, but today was about making everything we could from P7 on the grid, and I think we did that. I got a great start, and managed to brake late into turn 1 to get the Williams round the outside. I knew Webber was lighter than me, and would have let him go if he had tried to pass, but we had the speed in spite of the heavy fuel load. After that, it was just a question of pushing and letting the strategy work itself out. I have a special feeling for this circuit, it is a fantastic track, and it has always been good to me. I am very pleased to have 18 points out of a possible 20 after only two races, and we are really looking forward to Melbourne.

Flavio Briatore, Managing Director
This was a fantastic performance from the whole Renault team. Every single member of our team put in an exceptional performance today. Fisico and Fernando were fantastic. Giancarlo controlled the race, and Fernando amazed us at the start. The car was so heavy, that to do what he did into turn 1 was something special. I think this performance shows that we interpreted the rules for 2006, with the new V8 engines, in the right way. We have a great group of people, and everybody is pushing in the same direction. I am very happy for the whole Renault Group today, and they should be proud to have an incredible team like this one.

Pat Symonds, Executive Director of Engineering
We had a fantastic amount of success last season, but the one-two finish eluded us throughout 2005. It is the ultimate team prize, and we are delighted to have achieved it today. What a fantastic result this was for Giancarlo. We saw yesterday that he has real strength of character, as he bounced back from a disappointing weekend in Bahrain, and this just reinforces that. It was a controlling and compelling performance. It is important not to forget Fernando, who was disadvantaged in qualifying by a team problem. He fought through the field to make the most of his race, as he always does. This is a team result, and belongs to every single person at Enstone and Viry.
 
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