It's Official - New GT
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Mike
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Only one problem with that reasoning. Ford is an American company and this car will be sold primarily in America. Nobody here gives a damn about F1 or Le Mans. Even F1 fans have universally rejected the new turbo power plants. Can you imagine Nascar mandating V6s? Instant death of the brand. There are a small group in this world that think they know what is best for everyone else. Ford seems like they are listening to those people. Seems like a precarious position. Hence the reason to go the very limited production route I'm sure. There are probably 250 people in the world that would own one even if it came with a 4 cyl. I'm sure they will all be sold but they also could slow production if they start to sit around.
Understand that the new GT is a promotional tool for the V6. If you think Ford will make money on them even at 400K each you have not priced out the certification costs for a vehicle done the way Ford does them. I have and it is not pretty!
The net amortized costs for tooling and certification will run better than $60,000 per car. Ford will not really make money at the piece cost they will pay MultiMatic to build them. Add in marketing, dealer discount, insurance, etc. and there will not be anything left on the bone. Ford looks at this as no different than running a TV advertising campaign, a marketing cost with returns in exposure and what advertisers REALLY want: Brand consideration. They are not concerned with selling GTs, they ARE concerned with selling Fusions, Focus's and F150s.
The net amortized costs for tooling and certification will run better than $60,000 per car. Ford will not really make money at the piece cost they will pay MultiMatic to build them. Add in marketing, dealer discount, insurance, etc. and there will not be anything left on the bone. Ford looks at this as no different than running a TV advertising campaign, a marketing cost with returns in exposure and what advertisers REALLY want: Brand consideration. They are not concerned with selling GTs, they ARE concerned with selling Fusions, Focus's and F150s.
'Would have no effect on my own darned self, sir. I'm not a "group think" kinda guy.
Before 'the public' knew a new Ford GT was on it's way (just "another rumor"), I stated elsewhere on the 'net that if it were to be V6 powered I wouldn't be interested...'that a supercar/exotic had to have a minimum of 8 cyls 'far as I was concerned. 'Still feel that way - regardless of what F1, Le Mans, the U.N., or anyone else says/thinks/dictates regarding same. That's just a personal preference/prejudice of mine.
I've never owned a V6 exotic/supercar/performance car. I do presently own a couple of daily drivers that are V6 powered, but only because that's the biggest 'mill' the factories involved offered in those rigs at the time (or NOW for that matter) and those 'daily driver's' were both N-E-E-D-E-D at the time. Additionally, they're both 'D.D.s' after all.
That said, I love everything about the new GT except its V6 (...and...uh...its price tag, of course. I'm cheap! :mellow
It's flying buttresses 'threw me' for a few seconds initially, but my mind changed very quickly about that once I was able to view the car from various angles. Although the idea of spending $400K+ USD for a-n-y c-a-r is abhorrent to me, I would likely have done so to acquire a new V8 GT...assuming "Joe Six-pack" could actually have bought one at that price in the 1st place...which I seriously doubt will ever be the case at any price under any circumstances. My views regarding the new GT are very close to those expressed by MHNCO in post #142...except it appears he chooses to ignore(?) the fact that Le Mans racing 'dictates' factored into Ford's V6 power decision.
'Just my $00.02...and worth exactly that...
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I’m feeling lucky reading through this thread. All the potential buyers bowing out because of the turbo V6 will make all the unfortunate dealers forced to put the GT on their lots really discount the price.
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Pat
Supporter
These are pretty interesting! The fact these were taken on a public road leaves me a bit suspect though. I'd think this would be a pretty covert affair until they are ready for the production rollout. Maybe Fran's already got one in the works 
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It may level out the spike in rising prices due to less people being in the market for the 5/6 models - but I seriously doubt that the net values of the 5/6 will be impacted at all.
The most inspiring part of the new GT is that it appears Ford started this process a long time ago, and the plan has been to win LeMans in class the first outing at the 50th. And if they can do that - which is no mean feat - it won't matter if the GT is powered by a family of lemmings.
At VIR some 2 years ago, Ford was testing a car, and they were so serious about the cameras that they had security comb the forests. The rumor was they were testing "aero" on the Mustang, and that people had people had already been fired for the slightest wisper of info. BS. I would be my big toe with a pair of pliers and a blow torch they were testing the GT. The engine choice is clearly driven by performance and regulation specifications combined with knowledge from the existing racing program.
This is not a bunch of morons. There are clearly smart people enlisting experienced, smart people to put this together. It's a super ambitious project, and I just think it's one of the coolest things any car company has done in a long time.
Mr. Salmon, I enjoyed what you wrote above but I chuckled a wee bit to myself after this part......"This is not a bunch of morons. There are clearly smart people enlisting experienced, smart people to put this together." What came to my mind was: .........brought to you by the same company who thought the the EDSEL was going to be the "it" car.
IMHO the jury is still out. What Mike said has some value but these are different times. Electric cars and Hybrid cars are gaining a foothold and the public is leaning toward a "greener" world. The Jag XK 220 comes to mind. Initially a V12 car that people were willing to plop down serious cash in advance for but in the end Jag went for a V6 and many pulled their advances and the car never took off.
Times are achanging so I hope for the best for Ford and the new GT and I would love to see them win at Le Mans.
IMHO the jury is still out. What Mike said has some value but these are different times. Electric cars and Hybrid cars are gaining a foothold and the public is leaning toward a "greener" world. The Jag XK 220 comes to mind. Initially a V12 car that people were willing to plop down serious cash in advance for but in the end Jag went for a V6 and many pulled their advances and the car never took off.
Times are achanging so I hope for the best for Ford and the new GT and I would love to see them win at Le Mans.
