My Have Found A Coyote Intake Solution

[Steve Borneman]

I have been struggling with how to use my “drive by wire” accelerator pedal and not have to use a stock coyote intake. The stock intake looks terrible and doesn’t even resemble old school gt40; but that’s not as important as developing an air intake that doesn’t have to go into the driver compartment.

I could get get a Borla 8 Stack, but $6,000 is a lot of dough. Even the other packages are at least $4,500. I would rather spend that money on something other than an intake that won’t allow the coyote harness and pedal. That’s one of the silly things that I really like about the coyote; you don’t have to worry about running an accelerator cable, you can tuck the wire for the coyote pedal anywhere.

So here is what I came up with and I would love to hear your opinions:

I bought a Holley Sniper manifold for EFI. I also picked up a LS 4150 carb/efi adapter. Then I picked up some aluminum stock and I’m going to fabricate an adapter to attach the stock coyote throttle body to the LS adapter then to the manifold. Therefore the stock harness and all wiring and pedal are still all good!

You need to use the LS adapter because the stock throttle body is designed in a way that it cannot be mounted directly flat to the adapter, there is a part that sticks out so you need to make another adapter.

I’m sure you could manufacture or fabricate something slick, but that’s beyond my ability.

For looks I am adding an old school oval air cleaner.

Here is a mock up. The air cleaner will sit about 1-2 inches lower after I make a flange to fit the air cleaner.

I also added a gt40 with a stock coyote intake for comparison sake.

Let know what you think, it’s not perfect, but it’s better than using the stock intake.

 

[Mark Stackler]

I thought about making a fake looking carburetor and hiding the throttle body inside. What about the mas air meter? What efi system are you going to run? If you run the ford I think you will need it.

I like how the blue car looks with the new engine showing thru the glass but think they had trouble with the intake and it pertudes into the cabin a little bit.

Do you like the modern efi look at all? I think I have another idea I can draw up tomorrow.

It pretty cool you have mocked up one of the same ideas I had. I have another in my head to try.

Mark

 

[Steve Borneman]

I was planning on putting the mass air sensor into the bottom of the air cleaner.

 

[Michael]

Steve,

FWIW, I actually like the look of the low profile Coyote intake compared to the high-rise TB and oval air cleaner you're contemplating, plus the coyote intake looks like it provides a bit of rear view. Also, it doesn't appear that the high-rise setup will even allow the rear clam to close.

 

[Mark Stackler]

I was planning on putting the mass air sensor into the bottom of the air cleaner.

the mas meter will need to be before the intake. Also if you change the size of the tube that it is in you will need a custom tune.

A company called MAS FLO used to make a mas air meter that would go inside the air cleaner or even on top of the throttle body below the air cleaner. Wonder if they can still make it

mark

 

[Terry Oxandale]

Have you considered curved tubes or bends versus the straight, which would lower it further, and then as some would consider "bling", use two throttle bodies to emulate a dual carb set-up.

 

[Steve Borneman]

Steve,

FWIW, I actually like the look of the low profile Coyote intake compared to the high-rise TB and oval air cleaner you're contemplating, plus the coyote intake looks like it provides a bit of rear view. Also, it doesn't appear that the high-rise setup will even allow the rear clam to close.

Closing the clamshell could be an issue, I’m still figuring it out. I just don’t like the crossing fingers manifold of the stock coyote. Has no aggressiveness at all and the 40 is an aggressive car.

 

[Steve Borneman]

the mas meter will need to be before the intake. Also if you change the size of the tube that it is in you will need a custom tune.

A company called MAS FLO used to make a mas air meter that would go inside the air cleaner or even on top of the throttle body below the air cleaner. Wonder if they can still make it

mark

Great info, I’ll try to find them, thank you

 

[Steve Borneman]

Have you considered curved tubes or bends versus the straight, which would lower it further, and then as some would consider "bling", use two throttle bodies to emulate a dual carb set-up.

Actually I almost bought the Edelbrock angled adapter, but a member of this form made a suggestion to have it upright and I liked the idea.

This is a work in progress, it could change 5 more times, but I like the look of the manifold I’m using.

 

[Steve Borneman]

After much thought and making brackets and adapters, this isn’t going to work.

I think no matter what I do, it’s going to be too high to close the clamshell because the air cleaner stands too high. It looks like the robot on Lost in Space which is not the look I’m going for.

I am now going back to my original idea of an elbow and point the throttle body forwards.

Any other suggestions would be greatly welcomed.

Anyone want to buy a brand new air cleaner?

These are what I’m looking at again now.

 

[Mark Stackler]

I was thing but the manifold for 2 carbs. Install the elbow at the front off the engine point toward rear. Cover the secon hoe with a plate. Then install throttle body and mas air meter doors by a air cleaner. Then it is all tucked above the intake manifold

Mark

 

[Steve Borneman]

Not a bad idea but I already have the intake manifold and it was almost 600 bucks. I need to use this one.

 

[Terry Oxandale]

Can you put it under the plenum versus on top?

 

[Steve Borneman]

Can you put it under the plenum versus on top?

Not sure what you mean?

 

[Ian Anderson]

Post 1 photo 5
I have heard that manifold can be reversed.
So the air will be drawn in to it just behind the bulkhead window
Not sure how much space you have but perhaps a180 degree bend so it now draws the air in from above the engine.

Just an idea
Ian

 

[Steve Borneman]

Post 1 photo 5
I have heard that manifold can be reversed.
So the air will be drawn in to it just behind the bulkhead window
Not sure how much space you have but perhaps a180 degree bend so it now draws the air in from above the engine.

Just an idea
Ian

Yes it can be, but as you’ve stated, it creates problems and on some of the pictive seen, you need to cut a hole in the firewall and part of the air intake is in the cabin area. Maybe I can fine a picture.

I think I’m going with an elbow off the top.

 

[Terry Oxandale]

Steve, what I was questioning was whether you had room under the intake, between the runners to attached the TB, rather than on top where the clam-shell issues were cropping up. Then duct it from around other existing components.

 

[Steve Borneman]

Steve, what I was questioning was whether you had room under the intake, between the runners to attached the TB, rather than on top where the clam-shell issues were cropping up. Then duct it from around other existing components.

Ah, now I understand. No, there is actually very little useable space below the manifold.

 

[Ian Anderson]

That is a high rise manifold, pity they did not drop the whole lot a further 2 inches into the V

 

[Steve Borneman]

That is a high rise manifold, pity they did not drop the whole lot a further 2 inches into the V

Yes, they could have made it lower into the valley. That would have helped. I think my best shot is to use this elbow that I found. It bolts up to the manifold as well as the stock coyote throttle body. I can face it towards the side and have the air intake to a vent.