Obfuscation, bubba style.

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
If this was a terrorist attack, wouldn't the group responsible have made darned sure we all knew they'd done it?

Or as Jack seems to suggest, maybe it could have been an extreme "hit" on one or more individuals 'commissioned' by who-knows-whom?
 
Found the passenger list. There are several versions actually. Google it and you will see who was onboard that fateful day. Both Clinton and Panetta were involved in the investigation.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Jeff,

Obviously, Jack Ruby, Hillery Clinton and Goldfinger stole a missile from the alians at Roswell, mounted it on a ship they found in the Devil's Triangle and shot down that plane. Because regular assasinations are just too easy!

Really, does it come as a surprise to anyone that the same folks who have no trouble believing everything they hear on FOX would fall for this crap!

Gullible, easily fooled, easily manipulated folks, the ones who do not care for facts, always fall for this sort of thing.

Sad really.
 
What do you expect from Faux News? Anything from Murdoch's empire is nonsense. Expand your news sources to something reputable like the BBC Bob.
 
I was wondering why this was even news. If it was a conspiracy, no one will ever know for sure so why even bring it up?

If you want a conspiracy, you should think why this is coming up right now, right in the middle of so many scandals that are way more important like Bengahzi, IRS and the NSA.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
John,

The reason it has come up now is because a new Conspiracy Theory Documentry (not really the right word) is being advertised.
 
This was covered up. Does it matter that it happened? Do we want to know, or as hilary said, "What difference does it make?"

Is that what we want, if they get away with it long enough, it doesn't matter anymore?
 

Jim Rosenthal

Supporter
Can't we talk about something important? Like, for example, James Gandolfini, a terrific actor and evidently a pretty great guy as well, died yesterday at 51.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
From Scientific American

Conspiracies are a perennial favorite for television producers because there is always a receptive audience. Some people will believe anything................

“The military-industrial complex killed John F. Kennedy” and “I can prove that there's a private banking cartel setting up a world government because they admit they are” and “No matter how you look at 9/11 there was no Islamic terrorist connection—the hijackers were clearly U.S. government assets who were set up as patsies like Lee Harvey Oswald.”

Such examples, along with others in my years on the conspiracy beat, are emblematic of a trend I have detected that people who believe in one such theory tend to believe in many other equally improbable and often contradictory cabals.

This observation has recently been confirmed empirically by University of Kent psychologists Michael J. Wood, Karen M. Douglas and Robbie M. Sutton in a paper entitled “Dead and Alive: Beliefs in Contradictory Conspiracy Theories,” published in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science this past January.

The authors begin by defining a conspiracy theory as “a proposed plot by powerful people or organizations working together in secret to accomplish some (usually sinister) goal” that is “notoriously resistant to falsification … with new layers of conspiracy being added to rationalize each new piece of non-confirming evidence.” Once you believe that “one massive, sinister conspiracy could be successfully executed in near-perfect secrecy, [it] suggests that many such plots are possible.”

With this cabalistic paradigm in place, conspiracies can become “the default explanation for any given event”.

This monological belief system explains the significant correlations between different conspiracy theories in the study. For example, “a belief that a rogue cell of MI6 was responsible for [Princess] Diana's death was correlated with belief in theories that HIV was created in a laboratory … that the moon landing was a hoax … and that governments are covering up the existence of aliens.”

The effect continues even when the conspiracies contradict one another: the more participants believed that Diana faked her own death, the more they believed that she was murdered.

The authors suggest there is a higher-order process at work that they call global coherence that overrules local contradictions: “Someone who believes in a significant number of conspiracy theories would naturally begin to see authorities as fundamentally deceptive, and new conspiracy theories would seem more plausible in light of that belief.”

Moreover, “conspiracy advocates' distrust of official narratives may be so strong that many alternative theories are simultaneously endorsed in spite of any contradictions between them.” Thus, they assert, “the more that participants believe that a person at the centre of a death-related conspiracy theory, such as Princess Diana or Osama [bin] Laden, is still alive, the more they also tend to believe that the same person was killed, so long as the alleged manner of death involves deception by officialdom.

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It seems logical that people who believe that TWA 800 was a massive conspiracy/cover up, with literally hundreds of people all agreeing to hide the evidence that TWA 900 was.....................

Was shot down by a missile
Was shot down by two missiles
Was shot down by the US Navy by accident
Was shot down be the US Navy on purpose
Brought down by a bomb
Hit by a missile just before the bomb went off
Destroyed by a "High Intensity Radiation Field"
Destroyed by a cargo door, puropsly left unsealed..................

Is anyone supprised that the same folks who believe this rediculous bullshit would also believe that.........................

Obama is not a US citizen
Obama is a Muslim
Obama is a Communist
Obama grew up in Kenya
Obama wants to destroy America
Obama ordered the Sandy Hook killings so they can take our guns
Obama ordered the Boston Marathon blast so he could order Martial Law...
 
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What do you expect from Faux News? Anything from Murdoch's empire is nonsense. Expand your news sources to something reputable like the BBC Bob.

When will you "Faux News" guys ever stop shooting the messenger and actually looking into the issues? Even now, with all the scandals, do you like the way your country is being run? Well I see you're from Washington, you probably do.
 
The other big conspiracy theory forming right now is the death of Michael Hastings. I wrote an article on my blog some time ago about how difficult it is for a car to explode (due to the fuel in the tank being ignited), and this post is seeing a lot of traffic linking back to people talking about a conspiracy to kill him.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
John,

I understand that Mr Hastings car, traveling at high speed, hit a tree very hard (hard enough to separate the engine from the car) and burned.

Looking at the photos of the car, it appears that the tree hit right on the driver door and does not look survivable.

Are you saying that hitting that tree, that hard should be survivable?

Are you saying that hitting a tree hard enough to remove the engine should not cause a fire?

Are you saying that without a fiendish Government conspiracy that he would have survived?

Are you saying that rather than the obvious......dying in a fiery car crash, that he was murdered?

Do you have any evidence?




 
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