Oh....that explains it!

[Pat]

In 2008 Razib Khan presented a study in Discover Magazine. Interesting when you look at the details of the study. A curious pattern that emerged in comparing average IQ estimates by gender across political ideological and partisan lines--that conservative and Republican men are more intelligent than women of the same persuasions, while liberal and Democratic women are more intelligent than men of the same persuasions.

I guess that means that Jim's wife needs to check his spelling....

 

[Jim Craik]

Veek,

There is no doubt about my wife being smarter than me! But then again, she is smarter and everyone.

Unfortunally, she is CEO of a very successfull high tech marketing company with little time to be my spell checker. Yes Mike, a liberal starting and running a company.

I have long ago stopped being bothered by my lack of spelling ability, but you let me know if you don't understand a word, I'll help you out.

 

[Al Wohlstrom]

In 2008 Razib Khan presented a study in Discover Magazine. Interesting when you look at the details of the study. A curious pattern that emerged in comparing average IQ estimates by gender across political ideological and partisan lines--that conservative and Republican men are more intelligent than women of the same persuasions, while liberal and Democratic women are more intelligent than men of the same persuasions.

I guess that means that Jim's wife needs to check his spelling....

THAT was funny!

 

[Al Wohlstrom]

Veek,

There is no doubt about my wife being smarter than me! But then again, she is smarter and everyone.

Unfortunally, she is CEO of a very successfull high tech marketing company with little time to be my spell checker. Yes Mike, a liberal starting and running a company.

I have long ago stopped being bothered by my lack of spelling ability, but you let me know if you don't understand a word, I'll help you out.

Jim, if you keep an email open, and type the word in question on the email it will automatically spellcheck it for you. On MSN explorer anyway. Otherwise you can continue with "guess what the fuck I wrote".

 

[Pat]

Veek,

There is no doubt about my wife being smarter than me! But then again, she is smarter and everyone.

I bet she uses verbs and objects in her sentences... In picking a life partner, I'm sure you couldn't have done better and she couldn't have done worse...

My wife's retired these days, as am I. She used to be the Comptroller for a liquor store chain. The money was good but the perks were fantastic...

Oh yea, and she ran Jeb Bush's campaign office in Jacksonville when he ran for Governor.

 

[Roark_John]

Oh how much chaos and confusion those two little words create when spoken or typed aloud...liberal and conservative.

I didn't know that I had to live my life in a box, of my choosing or someone elses. So long as some group tries to redefine a word or label to suit their ends, I refuse to participate in any self-labeling.

Let's see here...my background is that of a redneck, white, blue collar family. And yet I'm the only one who has gone to college...several times. Not because I can't finish, but because my interests change and I pursue them. Not ready to lock myself into any "field of expertise" which is what most people assume a bachelors, masters or doctorate is. Aside from some very good doctors, engineers, and scientists, I fear that a higher degree does not lend credence to "expertise" in their chosen field.

By most peoples reckoning, I would be considered a conservative...and yet...

I support equal rights, especially those of homosexuals (including service in the military). There are already tens of thousands, if not more, homosexuals serving in the military...I for one do not want to alienate someone who may save my life, based on their sexual orientation. I don't believe that marriage has anything to do with religion anymore...so I say let homosexuals get married. Hell, straight people can't seem to stick to a self-imposed commitment...why not let homosexuals be as miserable as the rest of us?

I support a woman's right to choose regarding abortion. I don't have to carry a child for 9 months, nor will I be stuck raising one for the rest of their adolescence if my partner decides to pack off after knocking one out. (This isn't to say I would abandon my parental responsibilities, financial or otherwise, just that in our society, it seems that women bear the brunt of that...and this is speaking as the child of a single mother.)

I support legalization of marijuana. Anything that can help put some semblance of control on the growing border war with the cartels and violence stemming from it is a good thing. Not to mention the benefits of taxation, and restoration of a practice that was legal until the 1920s. George Washington smoked reefer and he somehow managed to lead a newborn nation towards full independence, both before and after the war.

Those three alone put me solidly into the "liberal" camp...and yet amazingly, all are about me supporting someone elses right to CHOOSE, not hampering them in any way. Crazy huh?

My only issue with the idea of finding a genetic link, is that too many people use a genetic predisposition as an excuse or justification. Alcoholism, drug addiction, abuse in it's myriad forms. So which is it? Do we have CHOICE, or is it genetic predestination?

Am I genetically "confused" because I harbor both controversial "liberal" traits AND "conservative" traits? Should I abandon choice derived from reason to satisfy those who tell me "it's not my fault"?

 

[Jim Craik]

Hmmm lets see liberal teacher + weak minded student = liberal student:idea:<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

Posted by Craig

To that I might add............

Concervative husband, weak minded wife = conservative wife.


It seams you concervatives go for the "less intelegent" (see Veeks post) ladys.

 

[Mike Christian]

I had a middle class, military family upbringing both on the east (Washigton DC) and west coasts (California and Oregon). I have one parent more towards the liberal side and the other more towards the conservative side. I have an undergrad liberal arts degree from a small college and an Ivy league Engineering Degree (NYC). I am in agreement with you on all of the above accounts Mr. Roark, John (Wyld). Interesting.

 

[Jim Craik]

John,

Yes, I agree with you as well, I'm glad to hear you say those things.

Although I do consider myself a Liberal, I hold some views that might supprise you.

I'm all for off-shore drilling, even in California (do not tell the neighbors), I'm for nuclear power, I think Al Gore is a baffon (although I did vote for him, as even then it was clear that Bush was a bigger bafoon). I do not belive that global warming is nessacerally a bad thing (no matter what the cause), warm weather causes more evaporation = more rain and for the most part rain is good, additionally, I do not believe that our two latest, large oil spills (Exxon Valdeze/BP Deep Horizion)were anything close to the disaster they were made out to be. You would be hard pressed to find any evedence of a spill in Alaska and I bet in a few years it will be the same in the Gulf.

During WWII, many THOUSANDS of oil tankers were sunk, I do not remember reading about an ecological disaster at that time.

 

[Jim Craik]

I bet she uses verbs and objects in her sentences... In picking a life partner, I'm sure you couldn't have done better and she couldn't have done worse...

Posted by Vick.

I will fully agree with the first part of your insighfull post, among other things she is an author, and yes I could not have done better.

As to the third part you made a bad guess. I met my wife in the "Summer of Love", July 1967 just south of San Francisco (great times to be in CA). She was 14 and I was 17 (the kid sister of my best friend, then and now) and we both have been very lucky and could not be happier.

Unlike some folks, she cares about what's said, not how its spelled

To quote Mr Dylan.................she does't have to say she's faithfull, yet she's true.... like ice, like fire......

 

[Nick]

Yes I do...er, I think I do...depending upon what word you were trying to write there. :laugh:

I guess that means that Jim's wife needs to check his spelling....

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a
toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe and the
biran fguiers it out aynawy.

I have trouble with spelling as well and seem to be able to interpret badly spelt words.

Perhaps they should do some research to see why it appears as though 100% of conservatives brains who expressed an interest in the thread on this point, can't cope with the complexity of interpretation of badly spelt words. oke:

Regards

 

[Nick]

I mean I know quite a few people that own their own businesses and I can't think of ONE that considers themselves to be a "liberal" or "progressive".

Mike,

I take it you don't get out much.

 

[Pat]

As far as abortion goes, I will never be a pregnant teenager so I can’t opine a decision from that viewpoint. But I was an embryo once, and I’m glad my mother didn’t “choose” have an abortion. Unfortunately, millions of others won’t have the opportunity to live, love, and share that I did…

Nick, perhaps we should look for a study of the impact of condescension in communications and the impact of the reception of the message...
Perhaps you could be more effective if you could dispense with it.
It makes you sound petty.

 

[Nick]

Nick, perhaps we should look for a study of the impact of condescension in communications and the impact of the reception of the message...
Perhaps you could be more effective if you could dispense with it.
It makes you sound petty.

Veek,

I apologise if I caused offense, to you or anyone else, the last think I wanted to portray was condescension.

The problem with written banter is you don't get any visual clues as to its nature. Hence the poking stick and smiley face which were meant to point out I was only joking.


Regards

 

[Al Wohlstrom]

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a
toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe and the
biran fguiers it out aynawy.

I have trouble with spelling as well and seem to be able to interpret badly spelt words.

Perhaps they should do some research to see why it appears as though 100% of conservatives brains who expressed an interest in the thread on this point, can't cope with the complexity of interpretation of badly spelt words. oke:

Regards

It's not about being able to decipher what someone is writing. It's about being too lazy to use spellcheck or look up a word. Within 18 words he slaughtered the word buffoon twice. It's having consideration for those that you are writing to and not looking like a dropout.

 

[Nick]

It's not about being able to decipher what someone is writing. It's about being too lazy to use spellcheck or look up a word. Within 18 words he slaughtered the word buffoon twice. It's having consideration for those that you are writing to and not looking like a dropout.

Al,

We are going a bit off track again but.

Bit harsh but I accept your point. People place different priorities on different things. My wife is a teacher so she thinks spelling is important, I have trouble spelling so I don't. I think cars are important my wife thinks they are not and are just for getting from A to B.

To me "depending upon what word you were trying to write there" was not a complaint about not using a spellchecker it was a complaint that he was not able to decipher the word written, just my view.

Maybe I'm wrong, I was once, (when I decided it would be a good idea to post my views on political threads in the paddock).

That's a joke by the way, the first bit about being wrong once, it was actually twice, the second bit stands.

Just my 2 cents I believe the saying goes.

 

[Al Wohlstrom]

Al,

We are going a bit off track again but.

Bit harsh but I accept your point. People place different priorities on different things. My wife is a teacher so she thinks spelling is important, I have trouble spelling so I don't. I think cars are important my wife thinks they are not and are just for getting from A to B.

To me "depending upon what word you were trying to write there" was not a complaint about not using a spellchecker it was a complaint that he was not able to decipher the word written, just my view.

Maybe I'm wrong, I was once, (when I decided it would be a good idea to post my views on political threads in the paddock).

That's a joke by the way, the first bit about being wrong once, it was actually twice, the second bit stands.

Just my 2 cents I believe the saying goes.

I am off track, sorry! But, I guess it's the way someone is taught, I was taught that in writing, spelling is the way you present yourself to someone without them actually seeing you. Enough said.

 

[Jim Craik]

Typical of small minded people, attack the messinger or how it is presented, not what is being said.

Yes I have the gift of Dyslexia, and it is a gift! People with this issue typically have trouble spelling, doing math, are slow to learn to read and have trouble remembering peoples names.

Those minor problems are offset be many gifts.

Typically dyslexics are slow to learn to read, slow to learn math and are often though to be un-intelegent.

Here is a short list of people with my type of Dyslexia:

Thomas Edison, his teachers thought him mentally ill.

Albert Einstein, could not read until he was nine

Winston Churchill

Leonardo da Vinci

Richard Branson

Ludwig Beethoven

Steve Jobs

Jackie Stewart

Wolfgang A Motzart

Pablo Picasso

Henry Ford

George Patton

Alexander G Bell

Woodrow Wilson

John Lennon

John Kennedy

Charles Schwab

Walt Disney

Thomas Jefferson...................

There are many more, but I think you get the Idea.

I grew up before people fully understood the gift of Dyslexia and it was tough. People though I was dumb, slow, retarded or lazy. They would say "you seem smart, you could spell, do math or read if you just tried"....................

I have heard it all. Mostly from bullies, small minded and insecure people.

 

[Jim Craik]

So you folks just go on giving me a hard time, as I said, I long ago stopped being bothered by these type of attacks and managed to get two University digrees......... in a time without spell checkig.

Interesingly I recently went to my 40th High School reunion, The small minded people who bullied me and called me stupid, for the most part no longer live in the Silicon Valley and have done little with their lifes.

I live on a 15 acre estate in Saratoga Village...............who would have thought.

 

[Jack]

Jim, you should be proud of your accomplishments. I know several very successful men and women that never even made it through high school! They can't spell correctly either. No offense here! I myself do, however, attempt to put forth best efforts in both spelling and grammer simply because I am not the sharpest tool in the shed and freely admit it.