Supercharging a CAV?
- Thread starter Knighton
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I assume you mean this Gary /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Well lets see. The paxton, vortex style would be no problem fitting into most GT40's. Would require some custom brackets, etc. I would guess that if you went with a crank triggered setup and a creative front cover you could fit in a roots style (like the new Mustang Cobra, etc.). Additional consideration would be required to get the intercooler working (air to air, or air to water, etc.)
Well lets see. The paxton, vortex style would be no problem fitting into most GT40's. Would require some custom brackets, etc. I would guess that if you went with a crank triggered setup and a creative front cover you could fit in a roots style (like the new Mustang Cobra, etc.). Additional consideration would be required to get the intercooler working (air to air, or air to water, etc.)
Ron Earp
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Someone really should do a good blower casting for the Ford 5.0L motor.
If you remember the old Ford Super Coupe (SC 3.8L V6) from 1989-1995 it had a good setup like I'd like to see. A flat intake maniold that blower sat in (Eaton M90) and a flow path through the manifold that was perfect for the blower inlet and outlet. Intercooler too up front.
It made a compact package that worked well. There are similar things, such as Kenne Bell's screw blower on the 5.0L but it is tall and wouldn't fit.
I think Gary is right though, some of the centrifguals would fit. But, if you're going to use one of those then why not go one better and turbo it? I'd be easier to package I'd bet and there are some turbo 40s around.
R
If you remember the old Ford Super Coupe (SC 3.8L V6) from 1989-1995 it had a good setup like I'd like to see. A flat intake maniold that blower sat in (Eaton M90) and a flow path through the manifold that was perfect for the blower inlet and outlet. Intercooler too up front.
It made a compact package that worked well. There are similar things, such as Kenne Bell's screw blower on the 5.0L but it is tall and wouldn't fit.
I think Gary is right though, some of the centrifguals would fit. But, if you're going to use one of those then why not go one better and turbo it? I'd be easier to package I'd bet and there are some turbo 40s around.
R
My last "project" was a 2000 Mustang GT (4.6 liter) with a Paxton Novi 2000. With minor mods (exhaust, chip, fuel and intake) I was able to get 394rwhp..easily more than a Viper (at the time). Even with Yoki A032Rs acceleration was traction limited. Considering what little I had to do to get that level of horsepower I think the centrifgual supercharger should be given serious consideration for anyone trying to get some easy horsepower. IF their engine is built to take the extra abuse. Turbo's can be very expensive to install... and in the case of the 40, probably all custom. I don't think it would be that hard to modifiy a Paxton or Vortech kit to a 40, although some fabrication would be needed.
I do a agree with Ron, the Supercoupe had a nice setup, .. actually Ford Motorsports did do something similar to the 4.6 with a roots setup, but it never came close to the centrifgual setups in terms of performance. But you couldn't beat if for being a compact "Factory style" setup.
One thing I LOVED about the paxton is that the power curve was very flat... it just pulled and pulled hard all the time.
-Shannon
I do a agree with Ron, the Supercoupe had a nice setup, .. actually Ford Motorsports did do something similar to the 4.6 with a roots setup, but it never came close to the centrifgual setups in terms of performance. But you couldn't beat if for being a compact "Factory style" setup.
One thing I LOVED about the paxton is that the power curve was very flat... it just pulled and pulled hard all the time.
-Shannon
I would consider a twin turbo set up however, 3 things come to mind:
1. heat
2. finding the right builder of twin turbo engines
3. I would not be able to use an 8 stack EFI
My choice would be a high revving 306 but not sure about a gold plated under side of the rear clip a la Gordon Murray's Mclearn F1.
What kind of hp figure would you be happy with? 500bhp? 550bhp? 600bhp?
1. heat
2. finding the right builder of twin turbo engines
3. I would not be able to use an 8 stack EFI
My choice would be a high revving 306 but not sure about a gold plated under side of the rear clip a la Gordon Murray's Mclearn F1.
What kind of hp figure would you be happy with? 500bhp? 550bhp? 600bhp?
You'll void your warranty if you go over 400hp /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Paul Thompson 'Hooligan'
Admin
Hi Knighton -
Search the forum for 'Cos Sorgiovanni' -
His GTD40 Mk1 has an all alloy block - twin turbos and stack injection from what I can see.
Food for thought.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Search the forum for 'Cos Sorgiovanni' -
His GTD40 Mk1 has an all alloy block - twin turbos and stack injection from what I can see.
Food for thought.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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These things come with warranties?
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"The mechanical components of the chassis are waranteed by the manufacturer against defects caused by workmanship or materials for 12 months after the purchaser takes delivery of the chassis or for 12,000 miles, whichever comes first...
The manufacturer's warrantee will be deemed null and void if (1) a completed motor vehicle utilizing the chassis is driven on a race track or temporary race course for any purposes or (2) an engine producing more than 400 horsepower is utilized."
These things come with warranties?
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"The mechanical components of the chassis are waranteed by the manufacturer against defects caused by workmanship or materials for 12 months after the purchaser takes delivery of the chassis or for 12,000 miles, whichever comes first...
The manufacturer's warrantee will be deemed null and void if (1) a completed motor vehicle utilizing the chassis is driven on a race track or temporary race course for any purposes or (2) an engine producing more than 400 horsepower is utilized."
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Hi Knighton -
Search the forum for 'Cos Sorgiovanni' -
His GTD40 Mk1 has an all alloy block - twin turbos and stack injection from what I can see.
Food for thought.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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I had a look using the search feature and found a few photos but I did not see the stack EFI on his 40. I also saw he has no rear window - a means to vent hot air from the 700hp motor!
Hi Knighton -
Search the forum for 'Cos Sorgiovanni' -
His GTD40 Mk1 has an all alloy block - twin turbos and stack injection from what I can see.
Food for thought.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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I had a look using the search feature and found a few photos but I did not see the stack EFI on his 40. I also saw he has no rear window - a means to vent hot air from the 700hp motor!
