WANTED - Large Hadron Collider

[Ron Earp]

If you want to start pointing fingers at a colossal wastes of money try the estimated at $1100 billion a year that goes on worldwide military expenditure.

Put next to that $6B To advance mankind's understanding of the very nature of matter looks like a good investment to me.

I'll wholeheartedly second that. There are even possible practical implications for "the average Joe", although none that the experiment is actually trying to solve. For example, what if the Higgs boson is discovered with subsequent understanding and shielding/disruption of the Higgs mechanism? Years from that point air and space travel could be revolutionized.

Good one Lynn! :laugh:

 

[Malcolm]

If I drive down the road at 60 and a car is coming the other way at 60 then the collision impact speed is 120.

So if they send one partilce in one direction at 98% speed of light and another the other way at 98% speed of light, why is it then that they say that when they collide the collision speed is still below the speed of light? Weird stuff this physics.

 

[ChrisL]

Jokes aside, this has to be the most interesting piece of science to have come along in a very long time, if not ever. I'm old enough to remember mankind's first landing on the moon and the excitement that was generated then. The anticipation of the discoveries that are likely to come out of this though will dwarf even that (for me anyway). I recon that its just a real buzz that this is happening in our lifetime.

 

[Simon Rider]

Malcolm, that scenario is covered by Einsteins 1st law of his special theory of relativity. It states that c (speed of light) is constant to any observer relardless of thier relative speeds.

 

[Jac Mac]

If I drive down the road at 60 and a car is coming the other way at 60 then the collision impact speed is 120.

So if they send one partilce in one direction at 98% speed of light and another the other way at 98% speed of light, why is it then that they say that when they collide the collision speed is still below the speed of light? Weird stuff this physics.

Cos its light and they would see each other and have time to use the brakes, which is more than you did when you hit the other car!

 

Why bury it under ground?

It would have cost a lot less at ground level.

regards

Chris.

 

[John Lowe]

'Ello

If you think the Einstein speed of light thing seems to be at odds with what we APPEAR to think is normal in our everyday Newtonian view of the world then you should try looking at wave particle duality and quantum entanglements in Quantum Mechanics; now thats really is wierd (and currently inexplicable). Hooray for the continued and often puzzling inquisitiveness of human beings - all power to the Collider, whatever they find.

John

 

[Stu Coleman]

John,
I didn’t envisage that response. Nice one!
It is infected with nasty things – Mankind
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Jac Mac,
The earth would want to move completely off its Axis for that sought of dollars.

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Simon,
I’m glad they didn’t listen to advices of the day.
At least if the Collider does prove the theory correct and we do destroy the earth we can just create a new one! …and the positive to this would be that the NSW Govt would allow 302 engines back into GT40’s because pollution would no longer be a concern.

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Doug,
Good point Doug!
When compared it seems rather a good investment. After all, the very nature of 'matter', is the $6billion dollar question!

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If the big bang theory is proved correct does this make certain religions null and void?


cheers
Stuart

 

[Doug Clark]

I don't think that the purpose of the LHC is to decide whether or not the Big Bang happened or not. The 'Big Bang' is basically assumed to have happened based upon all the scientific observation and mathematical models that modern science has at its disposal today. If the LHC dosen't find the Higgs Boson particle then that causes an issue for the Standard Model

Of course if they don't find it, it doesn't mean its not there, just rather that they didn't find it.

What this all means for religion is nothing, in my opinion at least.

 

[Graham W]

Gentlemen ,and I use the term loosely, one can find the basics to your requested Collider under Texas ! I worked on this project prior to its demise by William Jefferson Clinton in 1993 .
Damn Interesting America's Discarded Superconducting Supercollider
Nice tunneling ground and would have been a fantastic project . It is more cost effective to build these systems underground because of all the shielding that is required above ground. Could be bought cheap but price may be rising as it is an excellent space to bury a lot of Mortgage Bankers .

 

[Jay V]

Does anyone know where I might find a Large Hadron Collider at a reasonable price? I'd prefer one that won't cause the cataclysmic destruction of the Earth but I'll consider anything... as long as it creates God Particles! :wreck:

Now is your chance,
one, used very little, Hadron Collider, only tested, maybe a couple of times, minor damage caused by electrical connection melting between magnets, must wait a couple of weeks before equipment is brought back from near absolute zero to normal temp before you can kick magnets and check it out, contact European Organization for Nuclear Research on pricing...

Winter, repairs stall atom smasher until spring - Yahoo! News

Hurry, offers will be entertained until around spring of next year...
then price will go up dramatically.

 

[Brian Hamilton]

Damn, I was waiting for them to actually create a black hole and send some instruments through it. LOL It would be cool to create a small black hole and find out it's a wormhole to another planet in another galaxy. Or a window to another dimension, that'd be pretty sweet too. Unless it's a Zombie dimension, then we'd be in trouble...

 

[colin artus]

Black "Hole" arghh!! If only the d*ps**t who originally coined the term had never done so. A singularity of (almost) infinite density is the complete antithesis of a hole - it only looks that way because light cannot escape its gravitational pull. If the cosmologists whose flights of fancy encourage these misconceptions could be tipped over the event -horizon; how we could laugh as they were instantly crushed into a very tiny weeny thing.