Yes we have heard of private messaging but I have nothing to hide and was looking for an adult informed conversation. I was actually thinking that most of us would at least agree on the FACTS of what the man said but not one of you has said a single thing about it. How about if none of you can add anything on topic than just pass over this page. Again I always am looking to gain knowledge and there is no way for me to understand anyone lkelse's point of view if I never debate the talking points / facts with them.
Democrats and all politically corect people wake up!!!!!!!
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Michael Holmes
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Not near as harsh as the post I wrote, deleted, rewrote, re-deleted. What kept me from posting was the location of the post, "anything goes". I personally don't think religion or politics have a place in the GT forum, but I don't make the rules. I for one do not take any rant seriously when it is full of UPPERCASE WORDS along with grammar and spelling mistakes.
Mike so you are a grammar (which all of my posts are checked with this web sites spell check so have at it with the admins about that) snob and the proper use of italics bothers you; PLEASE!!!!! I know it hurts and is bothersome when your points of view are questioned but to regress to child like behavior is not what I would have expected from any adult.
Now that that is over does anyone have anything to comment on about the video or the facts brought up within it?
Now that that is over does anyone have anything to comment on about the video or the facts brought up within it?
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Guys it's the Paddock and as such anything goes (as far as topics are concerned). Heck I bet if most of you were honest with yourself you would have to admit that you all frequesnt here because of these types of posts. It's as if you all say ooooo look Damian (and my brothers with views that are the complete opposite) made another thread lets jump in and see what contorvesey is going on now. You all have the right and option not to post and just gloss over it but nooooo here you go and than complain about it. LOL that alone makes me giggle like you wouldn't believe. You all came here looking for this and now that you have found it and it contrasts with your idea of utopia you have issue with it .... come on. I love how none of you say this CRAP about any of the democratic posts that some of you have posted. Pot calling the kettle black much?
Now back on topic does anyone care to discuss the video or are you all in agreement with the facts were talked about?
Now back on topic does anyone care to discuss the video or are you all in agreement with the facts were talked about?
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One thing I find interesting in said video is the mention of "honor killing" and how it seems to be down played in our western society.. almost as if we need to understand it to appreciate it....I find it a particularly disgusting barbaric practice.HONOR KILLINGS
Molleur.. I think most of us guys (with the exception of Jim) realize that typing a few sentences on a political topic will ever sway the opposition to change sides.....but it sure is fun trying:laugh:
Honor killing is such a disgusting phrase, in the same way that murdering innocent bystanders and calling it collateral damage is disgusting.
Dont know about that last statement Molleur, I used to be a republican until I started to read Al W's posts a while back
Kidding Al ;p Consider that a preemptive defence...
Tim.
Dont know about that last statement Molleur, I used to be a republican until I started to read Al W's posts a while back
Kidding Al ;p Consider that a preemptive defence...
Tim.
Um...sorry but I'm not seeing the parallel of "honor killing" and "collateral damage"in the context of war....which is what I'm assuming you were trying to do?Honor killing is such a disgusting phrase, in the same way that murdering innocent bystanders and calling it collateral damage is disgusting.
Dont know about that last statement Molleur, I used to be a republican until I started to read Al W's posts a while back
Kidding Al ;p Consider that a preemptive defence...
Tim.
Absolutely! Everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I do respect this.
In relation to honor killings I am having trouble seeing what if anything is honorable about it. These people have no problem killing a child and then going down to the bazaar and buying a new one. The problem is that some in modern civilization want to try to coddle these murderous sons of a gun and even incorporate their murderous ways into a sub set of legal systems so the whole WE ARE ALL EQUAL thing goes right out the window and thus makes those pushing this agenda major hypocrites. Either we all play by the same rules within our country or all bets are off.
Look they move here and move to SEGREGATED area's so right off the bat they drive a wedge into the main stream. Now that is what most immigrants do and I really have no issues with that; the problem begins when they try to make the new country like "home". Listen you left for a reason and once you made the choice to move to another country you should conform to their way of life NOT the other way around especially when it comes to murder. If you except Sharia law in your country than you have effectively set the human rights movement back a few hundred years and it can be argued that YOU do not believe in the notion that all men and women were created equal and as that flies in the face of one of my country's founding principles I just can not see any time that there should EVER be an exception. Don't like it DON'T COME HERE!!!!!!
Look they move here and move to SEGREGATED area's so right off the bat they drive a wedge into the main stream. Now that is what most immigrants do and I really have no issues with that; the problem begins when they try to make the new country like "home". Listen you left for a reason and once you made the choice to move to another country you should conform to their way of life NOT the other way around especially when it comes to murder. If you except Sharia law in your country than you have effectively set the human rights movement back a few hundred years and it can be argued that YOU do not believe in the notion that all men and women were created equal and as that flies in the face of one of my country's founding principles I just can not see any time that there should EVER be an exception. Don't like it DON'T COME HERE!!!!!!
Pete McCluskey.
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You're not an idiot mate you just enjoy comedy.
I do find it comical , but also frustrating .
So many smart people with ideas so far apart .
So far in fact that I'm having trouble finding that edge of truth .
You know like when you pick up the roll of tape to use it only the last time it was used , the edge wasn't folded over , and you spin it around and around looking for the edge .
It takes common sense to do what we do , working on cars , but it seems to fail in these conversations .
So many smart people with ideas so far apart .
So far in fact that I'm having trouble finding that edge of truth .
You know like when you pick up the roll of tape to use it only the last time it was used , the edge wasn't folded over , and you spin it around and around looking for the edge .
It takes common sense to do what we do , working on cars , but it seems to fail in these conversations .
Having put automan on my ignore list, I have only one side of this debate.....however, I must disagree with your characterization regarding these conversations.
IMHO, the failure to show common sense lies squarely on the shoulders of the politicians. We who engage in these "discussions" would all like to see more common sense from the government.
We obviously just disagree about which of the two major political parties has lost their "common sense" to the greatest degree, and until the politicians get the idea through their heads that they are there to represent their constituents' wishes, not necessarily their own party's leaders' wishes, we won't see any movement back towards a "common sense government".
However much these discussions seem, when viewed by the uninvolved, to be little more than mud-slinging contests, IMHO they are part of what goes into creating a necessarily educated pool of voters.
THAT is why it is important to support the opinions here with facts, and facts from as much an unbiased source as possible. We can all see through the "my favorite FoxNews?Network political pundit (who, by the way, has never held a political office in their lives, but they sure do think they know about politics, what's up with that?) says yada.....yada....yada...." as mere propoganda.
Wait, I stand corrected.....I frequently say "...there are none so blind as those who will not see", so it's obvious to me that there are some out there who can not see through the propoganda.
Look to the center, Frank, not the "lunatic fringe" that represents the "edge", so to speak.
Carry on, fellows.....I'm enjoying the one-sided view I'm getting so far!
Cheers from Doug!!
Let's say you are unemployed, in debt up to your butt, behind months on your mortgage,and you go out daily in search of work to no avail. You come home and turn on the tv and are watching the President of the United States ride around on a bus with more escorts than you've ever seen in your life. The bus tour is supposedly to get touchy feely with the common man for some input. During the stops the President speaks and says he has a "plan" for jobs but, he's not going to say what it is for another three weeks or so because he is going to Cape Cod on vacation. I would be thinking, "geez a plan for jobs, but we have to wait for three weeks?" WTF is up with that? I could be holding a sign at an intersection by then, where's the urgency?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/04/obama-pivot-to-jobs_n_918902.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/04/obama-pivot-to-jobs_n_918902.html
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Yeah....about all that. Seems Bee-OH is going to use the "Labor" Day weekend for a bit of political posturing:
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Under fire in a nation desperate for jobs, President Barack Obama will soon announce a broad package of tax cuts, construction work and help for the millions of Americans who have been unemployed for months, a White House official said Wednesday. Republicans immediately cast doubt about any such plan, setting up a fresh economic showdown as the presidential campaign intensifies.
Obama will unveil his economic strategy in a speech right after Labor Day, hoping to frame the autumn jobs debate by pressuring Republicans in Congress to act or face the voters' wrath. The country is in a deep state of disgust about Washington politics, piling urgency on both parties to help the economy quickly — or somehow position the other side to take the blame."
IMHO, jobs are jobs, whether created by the government or the private sector....I haven't seen many being created by either lately. Given the past political posture of the Republican party, that if we cut spending and DO NOT increase taxes, we ought to see better employment, I'm waiting. I'm not holding my breath, I don't think "trickle down" will work now any more than it did before, especially with businesses and businessmen hoarding money like crazy. At least the government wants to spend its money to put people to work.....and, you should agree, Bee-OH has done a better-than-most job of keeping his campaign promises (not that I agree with them all, but he did keep his word, not a bad :idea
Cheers from Doug!!
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"WASHINGTON (AP) — Under fire in a nation desperate for jobs, President Barack Obama will soon announce a broad package of tax cuts, construction work and help for the millions of Americans who have been unemployed for months, a White House official said Wednesday. Republicans immediately cast doubt about any such plan, setting up a fresh economic showdown as the presidential campaign intensifies.
Obama will unveil his economic strategy in a speech right after Labor Day, hoping to frame the autumn jobs debate by pressuring Republicans in Congress to act or face the voters' wrath. The country is in a deep state of disgust about Washington politics, piling urgency on both parties to help the economy quickly — or somehow position the other side to take the blame."
IMHO, jobs are jobs, whether created by the government or the private sector....I haven't seen many being created by either lately. Given the past political posture of the Republican party, that if we cut spending and DO NOT increase taxes, we ought to see better employment, I'm waiting. I'm not holding my breath, I don't think "trickle down" will work now any more than it did before, especially with businesses and businessmen hoarding money like crazy. At least the government wants to spend its money to put people to work.....and, you should agree, Bee-OH has done a better-than-most job of keeping his campaign promises (not that I agree with them all, but he did keep his word, not a bad :idea
Cheers from Doug!!
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