Worried about your Personal Freedoms?

[Keith]

I came across this recently - not looking for anything like but, there it was:

1.8 gigapixel ARGUS-IS. World's highest resolution video surviellience platform by DARPA.

Astonishing - I wonder if this triggered that strange but addictive US series "Person Of Interest?"

Life imitating art or the other way around?

Whatever, it is kind of, er, obscene, but if it only catches the BAD GUYS..

Well, OK, I believe you..:worried:

PS BAE Systems of course...who else?

 

[Scott Calabro]

So sad really that its come to this.

 

[Keith]

But who can stop it?

I don't think anyone in Govt has the balls.

Very very worrying.....

 

[Larry L.]

'Loved the statement re: whether or not this system is actually in use anywhere being "classified"! Puhleeeeze...does a duck have feathers?

 

[Robert May Eng.]

20,000 feet???? Where`s my fecking catapult

Bob

 

[Randy V]

From space - They've been able to focus on a dime laying on the ground and could tell you where it was minted for close to twenty years now. This does not surprize me at all..

 

[Keith]

From space - They've been able to focus on a dime laying on the ground and could tell you where it was minted for close to twenty years now. This does not surprize me at all..

May not be surprised Randy but are you worried?

 

[Mark]

May not be surprised Randy but are you worried?

Personally NO Keith.

I have made it my mission to have such a dull, and oppressively boring life, that I pity the fool that wants to watch it.

 

[Keith]

Personally NO Keith.

I have made it my mission to have such a dull, and oppressively boring life, that I pity the fool that wants to watch it.

Oh. Still, whatever...

Uh oh..... WTF? :huh2:

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

I'm personally worried about big Government and their ability to invade my privacy at will. I know there is a school of thought that if you don't do anything wrong you have nothing to fear, but look back at history it depends who is in power.

 

[Larry L.]

I'm personally worried about big Government and their ability to invade my privacy at will. I know there is a school of thought that if you don't do anything wrong you have nothing to fear, but look back at history it depends who is in power.

BINGO.

That's why NONE of said incursions should ever be allowed except by sworn warrant. PERIOD.

 

[Keith]

I'm personally worried about big Government and their ability to invade my privacy at will. I know there is a school of thought that if you don't do anything wrong you have nothing to fear, but look back at history it depends who is in power.

Nutshell innit.........:undecided:

I do not see much of a difference between this device and the tactics employed by the NSDAP to keep the population in line (the appointment of Blockmeisters to report on tenants activities). Sure, the politics are different but the methods are similar.

I thought we went to war to defeat this kind of totalitarian control and I find it rather interesting that instead of demonstrating it's capabilities over "enemy territory" - (of which there's plenty to choose from in the World today) they have chosen 'home turf'

Like the Nuclear Football, there has to be controls to prevent misuse - what's the point of killing our youngsters abroad to defend 'freedom' when you cannot even have a private dump in your own outside dunny without some voyeur from big government taking a peek?

Anyone can now buy a small electrically powered drone with high res cameras for peanuts and I've just discovered that British police have been using these and higher power drones for a long time now.

Keep your eyes on the skies people..

It may be OK now, but as Pete says......... :worried:

Mark: There were many such fools in the Ministry of Truth...:blank:

 

[Jim Rosenthal]

All that technology and they still can't shoot straight. Fucking idiots.

 

[Jim Craik]

Help me out here, I can walk out my door and take photos of anything I want, right?

News Center 4 can fly their helicopter and take photos of anything they want, right?

I can go back later and look at those photos, right?

Are you saying that that's not OK?

 

[Larry L.]

Help me out here, I can walk out my door and take photos of anything I want, right?

News Center 4 can fly their helicopter and take photos of anything they want, right?

I can go back later and look at those photos, right?

Are you saying that that's not OK?

The govt doesn't have the constitutional authority to spy on the American people, sir.

 

[Jim Craik]

I'm fairly sure that the police have been driving down the street "spying" on us for quite some time, are you saying that's not OK?

The Border Patrol has been watching both sides of the border for years, is that wrong?

I use google earth all the time, is it wrong for Government employees to use it?

What about Police Helicopters, they can do little else but "spy" on us?

 

[Randy V]

The real threat to your privacy is not in the sky.. It's on the other end of your mouse and keyboard this very moment...

 

[Keith]

Oh well, the Straw Man just couldn't stay away I guess.

Jim Craik, why do you ask questions in such an irritating and pompous fashion? Can't you discuss things like a normal person?

None of the uses of that particular analog style surveillance technology you mentioned is an issue in today's terms and you know it Mr Straw.

It is the capability and future accountability of this and other types of improving spytech that is the worrying aspect that is the subject of this post.

"Google Earth & Google Maps" You are having a laugh. A bunch of photos taken from commercial airliners from 5 years ago crudely stitched together? It will not allow high resolution and is not even a real time device. It's maybe good to find your way around the roads and show people what a nice neighbourhood you live/work in, and where the septic tank is relative to your driveway but surveillance? Don't be a silly billy.

The original subject was (and still is) ARGUS-IS. This is way removed in capability from any of the other media mentioned and, unless properly transparent, is a frightening prospect. So stop your wheedling, no-one was poking at your boi in the House because he won't be there when this stuff really gets rolling.

Who will be? That is the point.

Randy, I've taken your advice and checked the keyboard and mouse thing and as you say, they looked decidedly dodgy, so I've disc
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[Larry L.]

I'm fairly sure that the police have been driving down the street "spying" on us for quite some time, are you saying that's not OK?

The Border Patrol has been watching both sides of the border for years, is that wrong?

I use google earth all the time, is it wrong for Government employees to use it?

What about Police Helicopters, they can do little else but "spy" on us?

You're parsing, nitpicking and nuancing again, Jim.

One either 'gets' the concept of spying or he doesn't. I don't believe you do...

 

[Jim Craik]

Larry,

That's just my point, this new tecknowlagy is just a very efficient way of doing what they already do. If a police man driving down the street and looking down a driveway is not "spying", then this isn't either.

I don't see where you could draw a line.

Now if this thing is a accurate as it appears, it looks to me like you could go back after a crime, look at the tape and follow the guy home.

Bank robberies and kidnapings would be limited to cloudy days!