HAS ANYONE TRIED THEM ??? DO THEY WORK???
48 IDA FROM CHINA
- Thread starter Walt Williams
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Ed McClements
Supporter
@Jazz Cut up a set of Chinese IDAs to make his own ITBs...and I think he said that the quality of the die castings was surprisingly good.
Hacking an IDA 'Weber', turning it into EFI
Hello all, As an engineering challenge to myself, I'm going to attempt to strip and hack into a set of Chinese 48 IDFs or 44 IDA's, and see if I can modify the body to contain fuel injectors. (and adding a throttle position sensor etc.) Basically, I want to see if I can engineer myself...
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THANKS EDDY... I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYONE SAY IF THEY WORK WELL OR NOT.
Had some Chinese Weber 38DGAS (€70 with free shipping) and they work fine.
Inspected them inside out & compared them to the genuine version and couldn't find any differences. Sold some to my customers and never had a complain.
Inspected them inside out & compared them to the genuine version and couldn't find any differences. Sold some to my customers and never had a complain.
THANKS JP.. THATS THE INFO I WAS LOOKING FOR
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If Webers are still being manufactured in Italy, I am/was not aware.
As far as I know, if you want a new Weber IDA or IDF, it's going to come from China.
I sure as heck am not happy about it either - but if you have to have New Webers, your country of origin is most likely going to be China.
I don’t know why I typed Italy when I was thinking Spain. I sit corrected. Where does someone purchase the new originals these days? When I spoke to Redline a few years ago, the person on the phone that wanted to take my order did not know the country of origin for sure...
Davidmgbv8
Supporter
I wonder if Jim Inglese uses Weber bodies or Chinese for his EFI conversions. Either way his Weber EFI set up is beautiful
IF THEY WERE MADE IN SPAIN AND ARE MARKED WEBER.... ARE THEY ALL REDLINE CARBS? WERE EARLY REDLINE CABS STAMPED REDLINE ? I THINK THE NEW ONES ARE
Just curious where the components of your phone and/or computer were made? AFIK, new "IDA webers" aren't even being manufactured.
I'm not getting into the China debate but new genuine Weber IDA's are still available:
Mike Pass
Supporter
Since the Webers started to be made in Spain the quality has dropped. I recently rebuilt some 44IDFs and was surprised at the quality of some of the castings as they were very rough. Some of the main venturis were so bad that I suggested the owner bought some new ones. When they showed up they were just as bad. I spent a lot of time smoothing out the main and the auxiliary venturis to get them into some sort of shape so they could work correctly and have smooth airflow through them. I, at the same time, did some original Italian 48 IDAs and they were very nicely made. This accounts for the prices of the original Italian carbs being what they are. I know which ones I would want.
I have not had a look at the chinese "Webers" so I can't comment on the build quality. The VW Beetle guys seem to be into using the 48 IDA clones.
Cheers
Mike
I have not had a look at the chinese "Webers" so I can't comment on the build quality. The VW Beetle guys seem to be into using the 48 IDA clones.
Cheers
Mike
JimmyMac
Lifetime Supporter
Agree with you Mike ^
IMHO the later Italian 48 IDAs are not too hot either so I wonder about those Iberian versions.
I bought two NOS Bologna ones a while ago as spares and at that time I thought everything looked good and put them away.
Last year I got them out to change out the jets and put better gaskets in, only to find the castings were identical but the top fuel pump jets were made from Mazac with a press fit silicon ring arrangement to locate them into the casting and I was expecting the more original brass nozzle/banjo screw type.
When I checked, the throttle cams were not identical and also pinned in a different orientation on the spindles.
The venturis also had a different fin arrangement.
I could go on but anyhow these were dissimilar to my 1970 set so I went about "upgrading" them by fitting old style spindles and boring the tops out to take threaded inserts for the traditional brass pump jets.
So really it's a minefield and I would not recommend buying old used ones either unless you have proof that the internal are good and clean.
Original replacement parts for the old ones are rare and expensive - look at the price of the original style studs and simple M5 nuts for example.
I will say that the vintage set that Doc Watson has are to die for and you only get what you pay for
IMHO the later Italian 48 IDAs are not too hot either so I wonder about those Iberian versions.
I bought two NOS Bologna ones a while ago as spares and at that time I thought everything looked good and put them away.
Last year I got them out to change out the jets and put better gaskets in, only to find the castings were identical but the top fuel pump jets were made from Mazac with a press fit silicon ring arrangement to locate them into the casting and I was expecting the more original brass nozzle/banjo screw type.
When I checked, the throttle cams were not identical and also pinned in a different orientation on the spindles.
The venturis also had a different fin arrangement.
I could go on but anyhow these were dissimilar to my 1970 set so I went about "upgrading" them by fitting old style spindles and boring the tops out to take threaded inserts for the traditional brass pump jets.
So really it's a minefield and I would not recommend buying old used ones either unless you have proof that the internal are good and clean.
Original replacement parts for the old ones are rare and expensive - look at the price of the original style studs and simple M5 nuts for example.
I will say that the vintage set that Doc Watson has are to die for and you only get what you pay for
Serviced a full set of 48IDA's two years ago.
They where genuine Italian webers...
They where genuine Italian webers...
Ian Anderson
Lifetime Supporter
How do the EMPI carburettors compare?
The VW air cooled crowd appear to like them!
Ian
The VW air cooled crowd appear to like them!
Ian
Doug Dyar
Supporter
If I need to explain to you why we all need to stop buying anything Chinese, then it's probably not worth my time.
Doug
