A very powerful piece of writing by Bryan Forbes

David, I'm all for turning the entire region into glass. We need to get those troops the hell out of there NOW! My original rationale was that if we could succeed, the loss of lives was acceptable. Then it became "if we get out now, we're saving lives from a hopeless venture". Now it has become "Let's stop the WASTED senselessness"! It will never change regardless of "who's in charge" of thier politico. Goes for Iraq too! Flame suit on...
 
Good for you David! Bravo! We have no "central" point here in the USA.
Glad you care enough to honor those that gave all..
 
The tragedy is that our forces are subject to civil/criminal action at all!
Military justice seems to be out the window..
 

Keith

Moderator
Reports in the newspapers here are saying a Gurkha soldier (one of our soldiers -
thank Christ) removed the head of a Taliban with his Kukri (an always worn battle and ceremonial knife of the Gurkhas) after a fire fight to aid with i/d. He is now on a disciplinary, is back in Barracks in the UK and may be subject of a Courts Martial.

Gurkha ordered back to UK after beheading dead Taliban fighter | Mail Online


This is a tragedy. The battle cry of "Ayeeii Gurkhali!" has been a force multiplier for well over 150 years and has frightened the crap out of any opposition encountered, and it is exactly the Kukri and the way it is used which achieved that fear and loathing.

To my mind 2 divisions of Gurkhas in Afghanistan with a free remit would quickly see an end to this farce.

William Shakespeare got it right:

"Be stirring as the time; be fire with fire;
Threaten the threatener and outface the brow
Of bragging horror"

Who started the beheading in this ludicrous campaign?

Not us, but the Gurkhas would certainly finish it...

PS the guys was already dead.
 
+1 Kieth!
I say fight fire with fire. We out to be placing a few road-side bombs in their region to take out some of the bastards and a few public beheadings wouldn't hurt either.
Garry
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
They are trained to use the Kukri, the bloke should be given a medal not sent home.
 

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Guys, the problem is that western nations have forgotten that battle is all about kicking ass and killing the enemy and the soldiers still remember.
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
Two planes landed in England the other day. One carried a group of grotesquely over paid, immature, under achievers who complained they were tired and missed their families after two weeks in five star accommodation.

The other carried the coffins of 7 fallen soldiers who had spent months away from
loved ones living in tents in a war zone, they couldn't complain.
These soldiers earn £15k to £30k a year not a day.
If you believe that the England team should donate two weeks wages to Help the Hero's, please circulate this text between your friends and forward it to anyone who might listen such as your MP.
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
David,
Thank you for that.
Today just got worse. Two more brave guys equals 324.

Two British soldiers killed in Afghanistan rescuing an injured colleague

Two British soldiers were shot dead in Afghanistan on Wednesday while trying to rescue an injured colleague.



By Laura Roberts
Published: 10:22PM BST 21 Jul 2010
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A soldier from the 1st Battalion the Royal Gurkha Rifles takes aim during a patrol in Nahr e Saraj, Helmand, Afghanistan Photo: AFP/GETTY IMAGES


They were killed by small arms fire in Helmand province in the south of Afghanistan.

One soldier was from The Royal Dragoon Guards and the other from 1st Battalion Scots Guards, the Ministry of Defence said.

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Their families have been told.
The latest deaths take the total number of servicemen killed since the conflict began in 2001 to 324.
Spokesman for Task Force Helmand, Lieutenant Colonel James Carr-Smith, said: "It is with great sadness I must inform you that a soldier from The Royal Dragoon Guards and a soldier from 1st Battalion Scots Guards were killed this evening in Lashkar Gah District, Helmand Province.
"The soldiers were part of a cordon operation providing security for a routine rotation of troops when they were killed by small arms fire.
"In the courageous and selfless act of attempting to evacuate an injured colleague, they themselves were shot and fatally wounded.
"They died helping their friends. Their sacrifice will never be forgotten. We will remember them."
On Thursday the bodies of four British servicemen killed in separate incidents in Afghanistan will be repatriated.
Staff Sergeant Brett Linley, 29, of 11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment, and Sergeant David Monkhouse, 35, of the Royal Dragoon Guards, both died on Saturday.
Their deaths followed those of Senior Aircraftman Kinikki Griffiths, 20, of 1 Squadron RAF Regiment, and Marine Jonathan Crookes, 26, of 40 Commando Royal Marines, who died the previous day.
The bodies of all four men will be flown back to to RAF Lyneham, Wiltshire.
 
David,
Get your car ribbon magnet to show your support. One out of five cars here in my town have one. I've seen less in the U.S.. They are available through the CANEX here. All politics aside they (men and women of the armed forces) are there doing their job and they must have our support. The ribbon magnet is one way to show it and it goes to a good cause. I was looking to see what you had in the UK. I found this site.
Dave
Help for Heroes - A charity for the wounded in Britain's current conflicts
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
Help For Heroes here in the UK is a brilliant cause. I hesitate to say that it should not exist or be a necessity if our government had any morals at all. Each of our casualties should have the benefit of every possible cause to help their recovery but instead our government allows and relies on Help for Heroes to subsidise the war effort. Nevertheless, it has to be supported and there are so many fund raising efforts just in this cause. I attended a funeral two weeks ago last monday and the collection on the table in the church was overflowing with notes - nothing less than a £20 which I found rather encouraging.
Dave, Thank you for bringing it to the front. I'm sure most of us have heard about it in one way or another but if just one person has not heard about it , it was worth it.
I am sending another two letters today - one to the PM, Cameron and the other to my MP. This war cannot be won and all that is happening is more families are being wrecked with this needless loss of young lives. Sure - I accept our soldiers signed up voluntarily but they didn't sign up to be slaughtered and with so many restrictions on how retaliate in place, get them home now instead of in four years time. Stuff the Afghans and stuff their government and very corrupt leaders. If ever there was a just reason to nuke a country, this is that reason and the time is now.
 
David,

I agree with you 100%. The magnetic ribbon program on the back of my truck is my way of showing support of our armed forces and my belief in democracy. I find this and the "Highway of Hero's" populace support send's a strong message to those new Canadians who think they can change or distrupt our system. I am happy our goverment decided to get out of the combative role next year.
Dave
 
Hopefully, one day the use of common sense will be given back to those who make decisions, and people can be treated as individuals.

A soldier who lost a leg in Afghanistan (he has been told by doctors at some stage he will loose his other leg) says he is "heartbroken" after his disability benefit was withdrawn.
Pte Aron Shelton, 26, from Bridlington, East Yorkshire, had his leg amputated in 2008 after he was hurt in an explosion in Helmand Province in 2007.

His £180-a-month benefit, which pays for an adapted car, will stop after he learnt to walk up to 400m (1,312 ft) with the aid of a prosthetic limb.

The government said it was reviewing the system to make it fairer.

Pte Shelton told BBC Radio 5 Live's Victoria Derbyshire programme that he would have to hand back the car once the benefit ended in September.

He said he was told his benefits were being withdrawn in a letter from the Department for Work and Pensions on Wednesday.

He said: "I was heartbroken and angry. "Heartbroken because I felt I'd been let down by my own government."

Driving is the only freedom of life he can get because I can do it without pain”

Pte Shelton, whose right ankle is also severley damaged, said he could walk up 400m but it left him in pain.

He said: "It's taken a long time and a lot of hard work by myself and the Ministry (of Defence) to get myself back on my feet."

"[Without the car] I'll be stuck to my house. My nearest shop is 700m (2,300 ft) away, I won't even be able to walk to my nearest shop."

Pte Shelton, who wants to become a taxi driver, said he could not use public transport because he could not manage stairs and taxis were too expensive.

A spokeswoman for the Department for Work and Pensions said: "Issues such as this one are why we are making changes to the way we assess eligibility to DLA.

"We want to introduce a new, more objective assessment to ensure the system is fairer and targets those most in need.

"We can't talk about individual cases, but if a someone feels that a decision is wrong they can get in touch with us and we will look at again. Disability Living Allowance isn't paid based on the condition someone has, but on the extra costs they may have because of their specific needs or difficulties."
 
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