A very powerful piece of writing by Bryan Forbes

David, I'm all for turning the entire region into glass. We need to get those troops the hell out of there NOW! My original rationale was that if we could succeed, the loss of lives was acceptable. Then it became "if we get out now, we're saving lives from a hopeless venture". Now it has become "Let's stop the WASTED senselessness"! It will never change regardless of "who's in charge" of thier politico. Goes for Iraq too! Flame suit on...
 
Good for you David! Bravo! We have no "central" point here in the USA.
Glad you care enough to honor those that gave all..
 
The tragedy is that our forces are subject to civil/criminal action at all!
Military justice seems to be out the window..
 

Keith

Moderator
Reports in the newspapers here are saying a Gurkha soldier (one of our soldiers -
thank Christ) removed the head of a Taliban with his Kukri (an always worn battle and ceremonial knife of the Gurkhas) after a fire fight to aid with i/d. He is now on a disciplinary, is back in Barracks in the UK and may be subject of a Courts Martial.

Gurkha ordered back to UK after beheading dead Taliban fighter | Mail Online


This is a tragedy. The battle cry of "Ayeeii Gurkhali!" has been a force multiplier for well over 150 years and has frightened the crap out of any opposition encountered, and it is exactly the Kukri and the way it is used which achieved that fear and loathing.

To my mind 2 divisions of Gurkhas in Afghanistan with a free remit would quickly see an end to this farce.

William Shakespeare got it right:

"Be stirring as the time; be fire with fire;
Threaten the threatener and outface the brow
Of bragging horror"

Who started the beheading in this ludicrous campaign?

Not us, but the Gurkhas would certainly finish it...

PS the guys was already dead.
 
+1 Kieth!
I say fight fire with fire. We out to be placing a few road-side bombs in their region to take out some of the bastards and a few public beheadings wouldn't hurt either.
Garry
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
They are trained to use the Kukri, the bloke should be given a medal not sent home.
 

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Guys, the problem is that western nations have forgotten that battle is all about kicking ass and killing the enemy and the soldiers still remember.
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
Two planes landed in England the other day. One carried a group of grotesquely over paid, immature, under achievers who complained they were tired and missed their families after two weeks in five star accommodation.

The other carried the coffins of 7 fallen soldiers who had spent months away from
loved ones living in tents in a war zone, they couldn't complain.
These soldiers earn £15k to £30k a year not a day.
If you believe that the England team should donate two weeks wages to Help the Hero's, please circulate this text between your friends and forward it to anyone who might listen such as your MP.
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
David,
Thank you for that.
Today just got worse. Two more brave guys equals 324.

Two British soldiers killed in Afghanistan rescuing an injured colleague

Two British soldiers were shot dead in Afghanistan on Wednesday while trying to rescue an injured colleague.



By Laura Roberts
Published: 10:22PM BST 21 Jul 2010
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A soldier from the 1st Battalion the Royal Gurkha Rifles takes aim during a patrol in Nahr e Saraj, Helmand, Afghanistan Photo: AFP/GETTY IMAGES


They were killed by small arms fire in Helmand province in the south of Afghanistan.

One soldier was from The Royal Dragoon Guards and the other from 1st Battalion Scots Guards, the Ministry of Defence said.

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Their families have been told.
The latest deaths take the total number of servicemen killed since the conflict began in 2001 to 324.
Spokesman for Task Force Helmand, Lieutenant Colonel James Carr-Smith, said: "It is with great sadness I must inform you that a soldier from The Royal Dragoon Guards and a soldier from 1st Battalion Scots Guards were killed this evening in Lashkar Gah District, Helmand Province.
"The soldiers were part of a cordon operation providing security for a routine rotation of troops when they were killed by small arms fire.
"In the courageous and selfless act of attempting to evacuate an injured colleague, they themselves were shot and fatally wounded.
"They died helping their friends. Their sacrifice will never be forgotten. We will remember them."
On Thursday the bodies of four British servicemen killed in separate incidents in Afghanistan will be repatriated.
Staff Sergeant Brett Linley, 29, of 11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment, and Sergeant David Monkhouse, 35, of the Royal Dragoon Guards, both died on Saturday.
Their deaths followed those of Senior Aircraftman Kinikki Griffiths, 20, of 1 Squadron RAF Regiment, and Marine Jonathan Crookes, 26, of 40 Commando Royal Marines, who died the previous day.
The bodies of all four men will be flown back to to RAF Lyneham, Wiltshire.
 
David,
Get your car ribbon magnet to show your support. One out of five cars here in my town have one. I've seen less in the U.S.. They are available through the CANEX here. All politics aside they (men and women of the armed forces) are there doing their job and they must have our support. The ribbon magnet is one way to show it and it goes to a good cause. I was looking to see what you had in the UK. I found this site.
Dave
Help for Heroes - A charity for the wounded in Britain's current conflicts
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
Help For Heroes here in the UK is a brilliant cause. I hesitate to say that it should not exist or be a necessity if our government had any morals at all. Each of our casualties should have the benefit of every possible cause to help their recovery but instead our government allows and relies on Help for Heroes to subsidise the war effort. Nevertheless, it has to be supported and there are so many fund raising efforts just in this cause. I attended a funeral two weeks ago last monday and the collection on the table in the church was overflowing with notes - nothing less than a £20 which I found rather encouraging.
Dave, Thank you for bringing it to the front. I'm sure most of us have heard about it in one way or another but if just one person has not heard about it , it was worth it.
I am sending another two letters today - one to the PM, Cameron and the other to my MP. This war cannot be won and all that is happening is more families are being wrecked with this needless loss of young lives. Sure - I accept our soldiers signed up voluntarily but they didn't sign up to be slaughtered and with so many restrictions on how retaliate in place, get them home now instead of in four years time. Stuff the Afghans and stuff their government and very corrupt leaders. If ever there was a just reason to nuke a country, this is that reason and the time is now.
 
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