B.O. Supports Mosque near ground zero.
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Jeff Young
GT40s Supporter
I was just pointing out that since one of the owners of Fox News (7% of News Corp apparently) is a Muslim and helping to finance the "Ground Zero Mosque," maybe we should all be terribly upset at Fox News.......
Sure, why not, anybody but the Muslims. Tell you what, I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who is a prominent business owner in New London, Ct. He lost his wife, his daughter and his wife's best friend in planes 1 & 2 on 9/11. He's in touch with the survivors of the victims of 9/11. I'd be glad to put you in touch with him to get his take on this farce.
You would find this enlightening. No coverage of the survivors on the news, why not!
Jeff Young
GT40s Supporter
Maybe because your news source is partially owned by a Muslim who also wants to build a Mosque near Ground Zero?
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What has this got to do with the feelings of the victims?
7% is a controling interest? where did you get this number? Your law firm is probably partly owned by Muslims
Jeff Young
GT40s Supporter
Changed it to partially, but apparently he's the second largest owner after Murdoch.
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
No. 2 shareholder of Fox News' parent company has funded Park51 planner
August 20, 2010 6:43 pm ET by Karl Frisch
According to a report by Yahoo! News’ John Cook, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal -- the second-largest shareholder of Fox News’ parent company News Corp. -- has deep funding ties to Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the “principal planner” of the Islamic community center in lower Manhattan.
Al, I found this on Google.
August 20, 2010 6:43 pm ET by Karl Frisch
According to a report by Yahoo! News’ John Cook, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal -- the second-largest shareholder of Fox News’ parent company News Corp. -- has deep funding ties to Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the “principal planner” of the Islamic community center in lower Manhattan.
Al, I found this on Google.
Guys, I didn't know where to post this, but mainly because this thread has the highest number of posts/views I chose this'un.
Now, debate I love, but somehow this gets lost "in the post" so to speak in the rush to naysay the opponent.
Therefore I post this clip as an enlightening experience in the art of debate.
Please enjoy, but mainly show some kind of solidarity instead of fear
PS you will most definitely need sound ....
ArgumentClinic.mp4 video by hard11 - Photobucket
Now, debate I love, but somehow this gets lost "in the post" so to speak in the rush to naysay the opponent.
Therefore I post this clip as an enlightening experience in the art of debate.
Please enjoy, but mainly show some kind of solidarity instead of fear
PS you will most definitely need sound ....
ArgumentClinic.mp4 video by hard11 - Photobucket
Al, all of New York City could be called part of ground zero b/c the incident happened within the city limits.....
If I had my preference, they would build their mosque somewhere in the great SW desert in the U.S.A.----miles away from anyone and anything.
Too bad I don't get to make the decision, and neither do you. Who can we put pressure on to make sure the mosque doesn't get built within spitting distance of GZ? A few emails would not hurt......might not help, but wouldn't hurt, either.
Cheers from Doug
If I had my preference, they would build their mosque somewhere in the great SW desert in the U.S.A.----miles away from anyone and anything.
Too bad I don't get to make the decision, and neither do you. Who can we put pressure on to make sure the mosque doesn't get built within spitting distance of GZ? A few emails would not hurt......might not help, but wouldn't hurt, either.
Cheers from Doug
I found this to be interesting and does answer some questions about the belief system of BO.
Beck: Obama's Faith - Video - FoxNews.com
Beck: Obama's Faith - Video - FoxNews.com
By Jim on the wrong thread quote:
If someone wanted to cause problems for America, and I believe Islamic leaders do, what better way than to attack America from the inside, forment hate between Americans.
They would put on a show that is very entertaing, but shades the truth and missleads but do it in a way that poeple would believe. Then those people would go out and spread this disinformation and cause a great devide among Americans.
It certinally is working here, they have managed to get folks on the GT40 site, to hate each other. These are people with more in common than almost anyone, yet their missleading "news" has created a great devide.
Their plan is working, Damian, Al, you and your companions have become unwitting warriors in the great Jihad!
You must be very proud.
If someone wanted to cause problems for America, and I believe Islamic leaders do, what better way than to attack America from the inside, forment hate between Americans.
They would put on a show that is very entertaing, but shades the truth and missleads but do it in a way that poeple would believe. Then those people would go out and spread this disinformation and cause a great devide among Americans.
It certinally is working here, they have managed to get folks on the GT40 site, to hate each other. These are people with more in common than almost anyone, yet their missleading "news" has created a great devide.
Their plan is working, Damian, Al, you and your companions have become unwitting warriors in the great Jihad!
You must be very proud.
Jim, You obviously never watch Fox news, they are very balanced just as they say. There are always apposing views that you dont find on other news. There is always someone arguing both sides. They cover ALL the news, not just what supports the administration like ABC, CBS, NBS, CNN. That is most likely why they are the most watched news program. I watch ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN just to find out what is not being reported. Jim, your argument is lame. Please dream up something else.
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Al, I certinally will never watch fox again, I have No disire to give money to a Soudi Prince, and I suggest everyone stop watching fox!
Al, a while back you posted this, pritty strong stuff, nuking Mecca and all.
So I know you would want nothing to do with helping a Soudi Prince to make more $ would you?
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Al, a while back you posted this, pritty strong stuff, nuking Mecca and all.
So I know you would want nothing to do with helping a Soudi Prince to make more $ would you?
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I have read some of this thread. Its about Geller's comments on Imam Rauf. Now if Rauf is truly a peace loving Imam, why doesn't he come out and declare his fatwah against terrorism. That would certainly show the world he means peace.
Geller distorts Rauf lecture to falsely paint him as a terrorist sympathizer | Media Matters for America
And as I read commentary on the Quaran, it seems that later verses abrogate earlier verses. The later Quran are less peaceful than earlier verses.
Geller distorts Rauf lecture to falsely paint him as a terrorist sympathizer | Media Matters for America
And as I read commentary on the Quaran, it seems that later verses abrogate earlier verses. The later Quran are less peaceful than earlier verses.
Al, I can't speak for Jim, but I can assure you that I did watch FNN for a while. As for being "very balanced" as you assert, you may be right in one respect, they do offer people with opposing views to appear on FNN, but IMHO the only reason that FNN allows that is so that they have someone to ridicule. I watched them cut off answers from the "opposition" in mid sentence, make fun of the opposition viewpoint, even verbally ridicule the oppostion.
If that's what you call "balanced", then I guess they must be, but it sure didn't seem like it was balanced to this college trained broadcast journalist. Again, IMHO they are an "Op Ed" service of the Fox Television network, they are NOT a legitimate news service b/c they are absolutely not unbiased. I quit watching them when they lost their journalistic objectivity and detachment.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.....one's perception of what is right is always tainted by their own orientation regarding the topic being discussed. You've been at least honest enough to admit that you subscribe to the conservative agenda, Al, good for you!
However, I believe that when you make such statements, as if they are the absolute truth, they should be preceded by "IMHO", otherwise you appear to be dictatorial and closed-minded to others' views......that is never a good posture to assume during a rational political discussion (and I do attempt to maintain "rationality" in my posts, with a few failures I freely admit).
Again, IMHO FNN is NOT a legitimate NEWS network, they are an opinion/editorial branch of the Fox Television Network. I frequently watch the local Fox affiliate's evening news presentation, they show very little (wish I could say "none") of the bias presented on FNN. There is a decided and obvious difference between the two.
Cheers from Doug!
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