Ford vs. Ferrari--New Official Trailer

Stephen Ducker

Supporter
Hi,
I think you're referring to Charlie ( Charles ) Agapiou, the English mechanic.
I saw the film this week with my wife, it was entertaining and well paced, & didn't feel like the 2 hours plus that it actually was.
Chronologically things were all over the place. As if Ken Miles had never seen a GT40 before the airport scene..
Shelby recommended John Wyer to FoMoCo rather than HF11 immediately putting Shelby at the head of the project. (build a car in 90 days & all that BS !)
Rain at night rather than the end of the race?
Ken & Shelby 'invent' the J car after the 1966 race. I think not.
At the end of the film you get epilogue words, " The GT40 designed by Carroll Shelby & Ken Miles......."or similar. I'm not knocking either of these guys but we all know what a massive transatlantic project it was !
Most surprising film error was the paintwork errors on the #1 & #5 cars, more unexpected to me than the other more technical bits already mentioned.
The J car & Mk4 mock ups were pretty awful too.

BUT, will the film entertain the public, raise the profile of our hobby, introduce Ken to the general public, get people interested in historic racing, etc. I'd say yes, so a thumbs up from me on the whole.

Steve
 
Living in Port Elizabeth where Hi-Tech are based and knowing Jimmy Price I was lucky enough to be invited to the local premier showing with some of the staff from Hi-Tech and key suppliers last night. Thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

Cheers

Fred W B
 

Stephen Ducker

Supporter
ps didn't Ken Miles take part in Le Mans 1965 !

Car #1 Miles / McLaren GT106 427 (prototype/first effort MK2) retired after four hours.
 

Neil

Supporter
I saw the movie this afternoon at the IMAX theater in Escondido. Not bad but the best racing movie is still "Le Man's". The FvF director could not resist throwing in every racing movie cliche there ever was.
 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

GT40s Sponsor
Supporter
I saw the movie this afternoon at the IMAX theater in Escondido. Not bad but the best racing movie is still "Le Man's". The FvF director could not resist throwing in every racing movie cliche there ever was.
You mean like the tach at 8000 RPM? Yeah, try that with a 60's FE! And the "220 MPH" speedo shots in a car that had no speedometer.......But overall a very entertaining film. I have talked to several "non-car" people who have seen it and they thought it was a good story and well done. Hey it could have been "Days of Thunder" so we should be grateful for that!
 
Hi,
I think you're referring to Charlie ( Charles ) Agapiou, the English mechanic.
I saw the film this week with my wife, it was entertaining and well paced, & didn't feel like the 2 hours plus that it actually was.
Chronologically things were all over the place. As if Ken Miles had never seen a GT40 before the airport scene..
Shelby recommended John Wyer to FoMoCo rather than HF11 immediately putting Shelby at the head of the project. (build a car in 90 days & all that BS !)
Rain at night rather than the end of the race?
Ken & Shelby 'invent' the J car after the 1966 race. I think not.
At the end of the film you get epilogue words, " The GT40 designed by Carroll Shelby & Ken Miles......."or similar. I'm not knocking either of these guys but we all know what a massive transatlantic project it was !
Most surprising film error was the paintwork errors on the #1 & #5 cars, more unexpected to me than the other more technical bits already mentioned.
The J car & Mk4 mock ups were pretty awful too.

BUT, will the film entertain the public, raise the profile of our hobby, introduce Ken to the general public, get people interested in historic racing, etc. I'd say yes, so a thumbs up from me on the whole.

Steve
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Copied from another site - possible discount DVD in USA

"Disney's flash sale is a seven-day period that will have a thematic release of movie titles. Ford v Ferrari is part of the Game Changer list, which will be offered from May 5-11 at a starting price of $4.99"
 

Bill Kearley

Supporter
One must keep in mind that Hollywood must have felt that a dramatized documentary would make money.
The average person wouldn't recognize the inaccuracies.
If it was strictly a documentary the numbers wouldn't work.
It was however fun to go with my bro and son and had a good time.
Will it turn a profit, I'm not so sure.
 

Neil

Supporter
Even documentaries make obvious mistakes. Last evening my wife and I watched a PBS documentary about polio. There was a movie clip, supposedly in 1933, but it was in color. In 1933 it would have been in black & white. Another scene was said to be in 1943 but there was a 1949 Buick, big as life! I wonder if the people who make these mistakes in "documentaries" are ignorant or if they think that all of us are.
 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

GT40s Sponsor
Supporter
One must keep in mind that Hollywood must have felt that a dramatized documentary would make money.
The average person wouldn't recognize the inaccuracies.
If it was strictly a documentary the numbers wouldn't work.
It was however fun to go with my bro and son and had a good time.
Will it turn a profit, I'm not so sure.
$97 million to make, box office to date: $222 million. So with Hollywood accounting standards it lost $450 mil!:eek:
 
The movie was a bit of entertainment for sure, depicting historical accuracy it was not. 1965 Leman, Miles wasn't listening
on the wireless drinking bubbles with his wife, he was partnered with McLaren and lead for a short time before the trans crapped out.
I may be a little one eyed here... in 1966 the 1st 2 cars had 3 kiwi's in them but nary a mention. Denny who.. With 3-4 hours to go,
McLaren/Amon #2 car had a minute lead on the #1 car and then the E sign came out...
Across the line there was no photo finish. The starting position didn't come into it.
In his own words from a very humble man, the 1966 LeMans winning driver, Chris Amon.


ps that mkiv was an abomination.
 

Jim Rosenthal

Supporter
I sat in Bill Wonder's car years ago, spent the day with him up in PA talking about GT40s. Lots of cool memories, he had. The car was a brown-maroon color. He used to fire it up and drive it to the barbershop on Saturday mornings. LOUD. At the time I saw it, it had a 4-cam Indy engine in it...
 
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