G50 Strange shift pattern

[Ash]

HI all

I have been trying to figure what is going on with my G50 gearbox.

I was hooking up my shifter yesterday and found my box works different to all the info I have found??

The gear selection with the rod/shaft of the back of the inverted box has
1st clockwise out
2nd "" in
3rd anti clock out
4th anti clock in
5th anticlock out
and reverse clockwise out

This seams to be the reverse of what everyone has stated??

I have double and triple checked the box and cannot figure it out.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Ash

 

[flatchat(Chris)]

Not much to go by ??? (more details or pics would be useful)--but sounds like either you have a bell crank on the wrong side or a push pull on the bottom of the shifter pivot

should be:- R 1 3 5
--------------2 4

 

[Ash]

I am refering to the gearbox without the shifter attached . So just looking directly at the shaft coming out of the back of the G50 box.

So looking at the rear of the box the gears are

---------4 2------This pushing the shaft in
-------5 3 1 R----Shaft coming out or back

I can get a pic but its just the rear of the box with the shaft coming out

Thanks

 

[Woody]

Hi Ash
Yip Chris is right mine is the same as you are describing so it must be in your shifter set up. i can post some pics of linkages if you like.
Woody

 

[Ash]

Hi Woody

If you could post some pics that would be great.

Thanks guys

Ash

 

[flatchat(Chris)]

:idea: Most DRB GT40s are done like this --- looks much better in the flesh than this sketch

 

[Woody]

These are some pics of the factory DRB set up for the G50
I hope they help
Woody.

 

[Woody]

Those last pic's are the same as Chris's sketch.
Well drawn bt the way:thumbsup:

 

[Thomas Rouw]

Ash you´re right. only thing is that everybody is reffering to the stick inside the car.

when looking at the shift rod where it exits the box.
shift pattern of ALL G50's should be like this picture. note the box is upside down in this picture, that however doesn´t change the shift pattern from normal orientation.

grtz Thomas

 

[flatchat(Chris)]

Thats how I read it too, Thomas --in the end --nothing wrong with the gear box shift pattern after all :huh:

 

[Ash]

Yer I just got it wrong!

Sorry but I really wasnt sure. Thanks heaps for clearing it up and for all the great pics and help

ash

 

[Terry Oxandale]

So is the G50 box opposite from the 930 box? Because my 930 box, if replacing Thomas' photo, would be exactly opposite when viewing only the shift rod extending out the rear case.

 

[Thomas Rouw]

Hmm I think I made a small mistake Terry, you're absolutly right that when you have the box the other way up the shift pattern on the picture should mirror itself.

My bad.

930 should be the same as G50 and ALL Other VW/Porshe transaxles even a beetle and a waterboxervan would be the same.

Grtz Thomas

 

[Ash]

So my shift pattern is different because it is the same as the pic that Thomas put up and you guys now say thats incorrect?

My box is in inverted and the pattern is the same as the non inverted???

Ash

 

[Russ Noble]

Nothing changes whether its inverted or not. In is still in, and clockwise is still clockwise.

 

[Paul]

The G50 is different to the 930. In the 930 you turn clockwise to go up the ratios as I recall.

 

[Thomas Rouw]

Nothing changes whether its inverted or not. In is still in, and clockwise is still clockwise.

Indeed Russ that's very true,
However we ar not turning the shaft directly as per porsche install, we are pulling on a lever that sits above or below the center axle of rotation, and that makes all the difference in whether you point 1st gear to the left or right. and thus makes knowing the orientation of the box and the system used quite important.

I think that's why we are having this problem.

@
Is the 930 box located differently in the original car then?
I allways thought from the beetle on all VW's have (on the gear stick)
1st left-up
2nd left down,
3rd middle up,
4th midlle down,
5th right up.
and all rear engine cars use a straight shift rod.

exept the cable opperated boxes offcourse.

Regards Thomas