Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
More data just for you Cliff .https://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/category/antarctic-sea-ice/
And some graphs for Jim.
And some graphs for Jim.
More Global Cooling/Warming/Change hoax.
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"We often hear that there is a “scientific consensus” about climate change. But as far as the computer models go, there isn’t a useful consensus at the level of detail relevant to assessing human influence. . . . The models roughly describe the shrinking extent of Arctic sea ice observed over the past two decades, but they fail to describe the comparable growth of Antarctic sea ice, which is now at a record high. . . . Any serious discussion of the changing climate must begin by acknowledging not only the scientific certainties, but also the uncertainties, especially in projecting the future. Recognizing those limits, rather than ignoring them, will lead to a more sober and ultimately more productive discussion of climate change and climate policies. To do otherwise is a great disservice to climate science itself."
Climate Science Is Not Settled - WSJ
"For many years we had been hearing from the “scientific consensus” side that natural climate change is nowhere near as strong as human-caused warming . . . yet the lack of surface warming in 17 years has forced those same scientists to now invoke natural climate change to supposedly cancel out the expected human-caused warming!
C’mon guys. You can’t have it both ways! They fail to see that a climate system capable of cancelling out warming with natural cooling is also capable of causing natural warming in the first place. . . . To me, it feels like a climate skepticism tipping point has been reached."
Roy Spencer, PhD
Climate Science Is Not Settled - WSJ
"For many years we had been hearing from the “scientific consensus” side that natural climate change is nowhere near as strong as human-caused warming . . . yet the lack of surface warming in 17 years has forced those same scientists to now invoke natural climate change to supposedly cancel out the expected human-caused warming!
C’mon guys. You can’t have it both ways! They fail to see that a climate system capable of cancelling out warming with natural cooling is also capable of causing natural warming in the first place. . . . To me, it feels like a climate skepticism tipping point has been reached."
Roy Spencer, PhD
Terry Oxandale
Skinny Man
Interesting news from the Rockefeller family...So gullible to think they would take such actions on a "hoax". Seems the whole world is slowly going crazy in believing this may be fact rather than fiction...well, at least almost the whole world.
How many of these trust babies have been neglected and sent off to Europe to be educated and subverted into the socialist conundrum?
Seems you've neglected to add a link, or a comment on what they actually did, but let me guess;
"Rockefellers go off on extreme lurch towards one world placation of their guilt in being so rich without lifting a finger. Give all their inherited wealth to stop this awful Cooling/Warming/Change hoax."
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
The 5 stages of climate denial
Stage 1: Deny the Problem Exists
Global heat accumulation data, from Nuccitelli et al. (2012) .
Average July through September Arctic sea ice extent 1870–2008 from the University of Illinois (Walsh & Chapman 2001 updated to 2008) and observational data from NSIDC for 2009–2012.
Stage 2: Deny We're the Cause
Stage 3: Deny It's a Problem
Stage 4: Deny We can Solve It.
Stage 5: Say It's too Late
Stage 1: Deny the Problem Exists
Stage 2: Deny We're the Cause
Stage 3: Deny It's a Problem
Stage 4: Deny We can Solve It.
Stage 5: Say It's too Late
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Stage 6, truly believe that man change change the climate by planting a few puny wind farms and taxing the crap out of everyone...sorry not everyone, only those who work and produce. How totally arrogant.
Pretty naïve to think that man can control solar flares and natural heating and cooling of the earth. We've come a long way in our own minds.
Simple question, over the last 40 years we have made cleaner cars, cleaner fuel burning plants, far less pollution, yet you say the temperature is rising and ice is melting. Man has not done nothing to change the natural course of heating and cooling. We will have another ice age and temperature change and at some point earth will get rid of man and start all over, and we can't do one thing to alter this in a meaningful way. We are not Gods, just pitiful men.
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Al you mentioned the last 40 years....
So you think that because billions more people making billions of times more heat should have easely been offset by cleaner cars...
And since these cleaner cars and "clean coal" have not stopped the heating, obviously we are not the problem....
Really?
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Ahh, so now you think people are the global warming problem. The obvious answer would be a mass extermination, 7.25 billion people, let's keep 125 million. It will be a random pick. We will keep the people that are physically fit and age won't enter in as we are not concerned with reproduction. We won't pick people prone to obesity or health problems and running off to Weigh Watchers won't help, we know who you are. We can ship them all to a large remote island, pack them in chest to back, a low yield nuclear device should do it. It will make a bit of heat, but only temporary. We will keep a watch on the population and when it reaches 250 million we will weed out 125 million with a bit stricter criteria. Soon we will have a Super Race. How does this work for you so far?
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Jim: I think ole George musta had people like you in mind when he did this bit! 
(Edit) Warning: 'Language is...uh...a bit 'rough' in spots. :stunned:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igjsojobNE"]George Carlin On Global Warming Scam - YouTube[/ame]
(Edit) Warning: 'Language is...uh...a bit 'rough' in spots. :stunned:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igjsojobNE"]George Carlin On Global Warming Scam - YouTube[/ame]
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Nah, I kinda like mass exterminating, no more fat people walking around
with 1 gallon sodas, and real low health care cost, Obama will be proud, that's the way to go! Slim healthy people everywhere, can't wait!
Hey! Watch it! As a former fat person, "I resemble that remark"! ("Curly" Howard/ 3 Stooges)
More Deniers spew their evil propaganda from the bowls of the Evil Empire!!!
"Naturally occurring changes in winds, not human-caused climate change, are responsible for most of the warming on land and in the sea along the West Coast of North America over the last century, a study has found.
The analysis challenges assumptions that the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere has been a significant driver of the increase in temperatures observed over many decades in the ocean and along the coastline from Alaska to California.
Changes in ocean circulation as a result of weaker winds were the main cause of about 1 degree Fahrenheit of warming in the northeast Pacific Ocean and nearby coastal land between 1900 and 2012, according to the analysis of ocean and air temperatures over that time. The study, conducted by researchers from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the University of Washington, was published Monday by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."
West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes - LA Times
"Naturally occurring changes in winds, not human-caused climate change, are responsible for most of the warming on land and in the sea along the West Coast of North America over the last century, a study has found.
The analysis challenges assumptions that the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere has been a significant driver of the increase in temperatures observed over many decades in the ocean and along the coastline from Alaska to California.
Changes in ocean circulation as a result of weaker winds were the main cause of about 1 degree Fahrenheit of warming in the northeast Pacific Ocean and nearby coastal land between 1900 and 2012, according to the analysis of ocean and air temperatures over that time. The study, conducted by researchers from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the University of Washington, was published Monday by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."
West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes - LA Times
Ooops, thats bowels, not bowls!
As to Al's idea for reducing the surplus population, I think liberals should develop a taste for the human fetus. Think how many chickens they could save!
As to Al's idea for reducing the surplus population, I think liberals should develop a taste for the human fetus. Think how many chickens they could save!
