More Global Cooling/Warming/Change hoax.

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
Maybe the POTUS should look out his window.


On Saturday President Obama told an audience at the University of Queensland that no country was immune to the effects of climate change and that everyone must play a role in fighting the global phenomena.
'Here in the Asia Pacific, nobody has more at stake when it comes to thinking about and then acting on climate change,' he said during his speech.
'Here a climate that increases in temperature will mean more extreme and frequent storms, more flooding, rising seas that submerge Pacific islands.
'Here in Australia, it means longer droughts, more wildfires – The incredible natural glory of the Great Barrier Reef is threatened.
‘I have not had time to go to the Great Barrier Reef and I want to come back and I want my daughters to be able to come back and I want them to be able to bring their daughters or sons to visit and I want that there 50 years from now.
Climate change wasn't on the formal agenda prepared by the Australian Prime Minister during the G20, but supportive statements by President Obama ensured its inclusion in the final statement.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-...ack-obama-over-climate-change-remarks/5906570
 

Keith

Moderator
What exactly is wrong with what BOB said? I always understood that the GBR was in some danger from mining port activities in the area..
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
The reef is not in any danger from port mining activities, a couple of years back there was a rumour that stuff from dredging Townsville harbour would be dumped on the reef and the media jumped all over it.
BOB also perpetuated the myth that Islands would sink under the sea etc.

Here in the Asia Pacific, nobody has more at stake when it comes to thinking about and then acting on climate change,' he said during his speech.
'Here a climate that increases in temperature will mean more extreme and frequent storms, more flooding, rising seas that submerge Pacific islands.
'Here in Australia, it means longer droughts, more wildfires – The incredible natural glory of the Great Barrier Reef is threatened.
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter

Really. :huh:

We TIED two "coldest day" records here locally a day or so ago...one from the early 1950s and one from 1985. And y'all probably know what's been going on cold weather-wise over most of the U.S. already this year - and it's not even winter yet.

But, I'm sure it'll be the U.K. weather that "warmers" will use to prove the whole global warming thing is happening - if the above prediction pans out...or...even if it doesn't.

(Edit: I wonder whether or not something may have changed with regard to the physical environment in which some of the U.K.'s 'temperature stations' themselves are located (or any OTHER country's stations are located for that matter). IOW, has the same physical location that station "A" has occupied for decades now been altered itself and that's why it's recording higher temps? E.g.: A station located in, say, farmland that now has a lot of blacktop around it where none ever was before...that sort of thing? 'Twould make a diff in the temps it recorded, would it not?)
 
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Keith

Moderator
Well, as everybody should know (including you Larry) UK weather is determined by how far south or north the Gulf Stream flows past us. If it flows north we have fantastic warm and fine weather, south and it's shit.

Guess where the current flowed this year Larry?
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
"The global figures come in estimates from the UN's World Meteorological Organisation (WMO)."

...two more trustworthy, agenda-less, CREDIBLE outfits than the WMO and the IPCC don't exist on the planet. Their every prediction has been 'smack on'...as I'm sure ^this one^ will be... :embarassed:


World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

DailyTech - After Missing 5 Predictions, IPCC Cuts Global Warming Forecast
 

Keith

Moderator
Thanks for that Larry, I just can't be assed to read any of this stuff anymore. I just post it...I knew I could rely on you mate :)
 

Jeff Young

GT40s Supporter
Really. :huh:

We TIED two "coldest day" records here locally a day or so ago...one from the early 1950s and one from 1985. And y'all probably know what's been going on cold weather-wise over most of the U.S. already this year - and it's not even winter yet.

But, I'm sure it'll be the U.K. weather that "warmers" will use to prove the whole global warming thing is happening - if the above prediction pans out...or...even if it doesn't.

(Edit: I wonder whether or not something may have changed with regard to the physical environment in which some of the U.K.'s 'temperature stations' themselves are located (or any OTHER country's stations are located for that matter). IOW, has the same physical location that station "A" has occupied for decades now been altered itself and that's why it's recording higher temps? E.g.: A station located in, say, farmland that now has a lot of blacktop around it where none ever was before...that sort of thing? 'Twould make a diff in the temps it recorded, would it not?)

Ah, the old "damn today was cold Global Warming is a hoax" argument.

Nope.

Facts is facts. 2014 is on track to be teh warmest year on record.

But carry on wit yo bad Flat Earf self.
 
Jumping the gun a bit! What the WMO report actually says;
“If November and December maintain the same global temperature anomaly value, the best estimate for 2014 according to this measure would place it as the warmest year on record. The year, however, is not yet over. Comparing January to October 2014 to the same period in earlier years, 2014 is so far tied for warmest with 2010. It is important to note that differences in the rankings of the warmest years are a matter of only a few hundredths of a degree, and that different data sets show slightly different rankings.
Global average temperatures are also estimated using reanalysis systems, which use a weather forecasting system to combine many sources of data to provide a more complete picture of global temperatures. According to data from the reanalysis produced by the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts, the January to October combined land and ocean global average temperature would place 2014 as third or fourth highest for this dataset, which runs from 1958.
Based on these lines of evidence it is most likely that 2014 is currently one of the four warmest years on record, but there is a possibility that the final rank will lie outside this range.”

It's worth noting that the RSS satellite figures are significantly cooler than the adjusted ground based temp sets (esp GISS). Funny how this 'hottest evah!" newstory always makes its appearance just prior to an IPCC blabfest (Lima).
 
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