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Yes Jack, this is strange to say the least!


This strange chain of firings from the Military is so bizarre and so unheard of that even Dianne Sawyer of ABC news reached out to cover it when the 9th, yes 9th, Military Commanding Officer was relieved of duty in less than a year. This doesn’t include the long list last year, this is just the nine individuals this year alone.

General Carter Hamm, United States Army-Served as head of the United States African Command. Was in charge of the US African command during the fateful night of September 11, 2012 when the lives of four American citizens was taken in the Embassy in Benghazi. Hamm was extremely critical of our Commander and Chief and stated he lied about not having reinforcements in the area on that night. Hamm “resigned and retired” on April of 2013.
Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette/United States Navy-Commander of Carrier Strike Group Three. His most recent activity served as Deputy Commander of the US Naval Forces, US Central Command. He was in charge of Air Craft Carriers in the Mediterranean Sea the night of September 11, 2012. He testified before the hearing committee and said that there may not have been time to get the flight crews there but left the door open on if told when the events took place if that he could have had the aircraft launched upon cross-examination by Rep. Tray Gowdey. Recently fired from the Administrative post and relieved of Duty by the Obama Administration for “utterance of a racial slur”.

Major General Ralph Baker, United States Army- Major General Baker served as the Commander of the Joint Task Force-Horn at Camp Lamar, Djibouti, Africa. Was also involved in some aspect with the incident September 11, 2012, being under the African Command. Had said he believed attack helicopters could have made it in time. Relieved of command and fired for groping a civilian (no assault charges or sexual misconduct charges filed with JAG)

Brigadier General Bryan Roberts, United States Army-General Roberts took command of Fort Jackson in 2011. Was considered a rising star in his field. He served in Iraq during his service as the Commanding Officer of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, and was the Deputy Commanding General of the United States Army Recruiting Command, Fort Knox, KY. Relieved of Duty and Fired for Adultery. While this is still on the books in the United States Code of Military Justice, it has rarely been used since President Bill Clinton’s indiscretions.
Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant, United States Marine Corps-Director of Strategic Planning and Policy of for the United States Pacific Command and Commander of the aviation wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan. Highly decorated soldier with two Naval and Marine Commendations and two Naval and Marine Good Conduct medals. He also has an Air Medal with a gold star. He served honorably and distinctively. He had asked about supplies to his command. He was one of two commanding officers suddenly relieved of command and fired from the military for failure of proper force protection.

Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus, United States Marine Corps- Regional Commander in the Southwest and I Marine Expeditionary Force (a forward or frontal division) in Afghanistan. Also Highly decorated with a Defense Superior Service Medal, two Legion of Merritt w/Valor, and three Meritorious Service Commendations. Major General C.M.M.Gurganus had questioned the use of Afghanistan patrols along side American patrols after two officers were executed at their desk and a platoon was lead into an ambush on the front lines. Was the other commander relieved of duty for failure of proper force protection.

Lieutenant General David Holmes Huntoon Jr, United States Army-Served as the 58th Superintendent of the United States Military Academy at West Point, NY. He had graduated from the same academy in 1973 and had served in Senior Planning and Education Services through the majority of his career. He was “censored” for “an investigation” into an “improper relationship” according to The Department of Defense. Nothing was released to the nature of the improper relationship. Nothing was even mentioned if an actual investigation even took place.

Vice Admiral Tim Giardina, United States Navy-Deputy Commander of the United States Strategic Command. Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10, where every single one of the 18 Nuclear Submarines with Nuclear Trident Missiles of those three groups were in his command. This commander earned six Legions of Merit, Two Meritorious Service Medals, two Joint Service Commendation Medals, and several other medals, ribbons and decorations in his illustrious career. He was removed from service and fired from the military for the charge of using counterfeit poker chips (not making that up).

Last on the list, Major General Michael Carry, United States Air Force-Commander 20th Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) at three operational wings and served in both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. He was Fired October 11, 2013, for “Personal Misbehavior” is what was told to ABC News. He and Giardina were both the two top Commanders over the United States Nuclear Arsenal before their dismissal within 48 hours of each other.

As ABC News reports, this is an extremely alarming rate and one of the biggest and fastest purges of military personnel ever recorded. It apparently is such a shock at the rate even for a long time veteran of reporting the news as Dianne Sawyer, because at one point she gets heated saying two Commanders of the Nuclear Command.
You don’t put people who are not very intelligent and without a squeaky clean record over that area of the Military. It is enough to make the hardest and staunchest of supporters as the ABC news crew to pause and ask themselves, “what step is he planning?”

"In GOD we TRUST"

Gun sales ought to go through the roof again! Do you realize that since 1/2009 gun ownership has gone from 250 million to 320 million in the US, up 28%. Gun manufacturers must love Obama.
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
Al,

Yes we do have a high Corporate tax rate...........................

A few thoughts.

(1) Yes its High, not the highest, but its high.

(2) 12 of the Worlds largest 24 Corporations are based in the United States, WHY?

(3) We have a huge country with a huge infrastructure, we have a massive Military expence. We have military spread all over the world, we spend more than the next 10 countries combined on the military. That costs money, but it buys influence, protects commerce (see point 2)

(3) Although our rate is high, its not that much higher than other large countries, plus we do a lot more than other countries:

2010 Effective Corporate Tax Rates

USA.............34.6%

Argentina......43.1%
Brazil............35.1%
Japan...........29.5%
Russia...........31.9%
Australia........26%
France..........34%
India.............33.6%
UK................27.9%


Al, we can either elect folks who will cut spending or we need to pay for what we spend, its that simple.
Jim I don't know where you get your numbers from but the Corporate tax rate in Australia is 30% and has been for years.
Of course on top of that the business owner has to pay compulsory superannuation, payroll tax, holiday pay loading, fully paid maternity leave and sick leave.
 
Al, could this be true?

General Ham was stopped, at gun point, from deploying the military troops to help the Americans at Benghazi. General Ham was told if he kept his month shut he could keep his command. It was General Ham’s second in command that stopped him from the deployment of the troops.
I would like to hear General Ham's account of what exactly transpired during the Benghazi attack and if he really was relieved of his command at gunpoint. Unfortunately, his testimony before Congress last June was held behind closed doors.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...nline-petition
 

Keith

Moderator
Getting a bad link notice from that website Jack.

If that were true about his 2 i/c - wouldn't that hint at a massive conspiracy and cover up?

Personally, I can't believe it - it really is too off the wall to be true, but, stranger things have happened.
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
Unfortunately, his testimony before Congress last June was held behind closed doors.

And what should THAT tell you, Jack?

I know one thing for sure. If this were a REPUBLICAN administration, there'd be about 1,500 Woodward and Bernstein-types digging for all the facts from all possible sources 24/7/365 and they wouldn't quit until they had uncovered the whole story, 'knew just who'd done what, AND THEY HAD PRINTED IT ALL.
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
Getting a bad link notice from that website Jack.

Uuuuuuuuuh huh...a "bad link"...to this particular piece. :squint: Hmmmmmmmm!

...wouldn't that hint at a massive conspiracy and cover up?

See above!

Personally, I can't believe it - it really is too off the wall to be true, but, stranger things have happened.

I may have been a bit 'tongue-in-cheek' above, but, I wouldn't put anything past this admin., Keith. Nothing.
 
Interesting in todays journal one of the Colorado school dostricts got a36% increase in spending per student for the last 3 years, core test scoresdd dropped 8%. Its not about money, its about parental comoitment, libs want schools to replace parental responsibility, hell they want gov to repalce personal responsibility, wont work.
 
Interesting

Denmark Is Considered The Happiest Country.

Last month, Denmark was crowned the happiest country in the world.

Denmark supports parents

Health care is a civil right -- and a source of social support

Danes feel a responsibility to one another
Danes don't prioritize social security and safety simply so they can receive benefits; there's a real sense of collective responsibility and belonging.

Denmark is a society where citizens participate and contribute to making society work. More than 40 percent of all Danes do voluntary work in cultural and sports associations, NGOs, social organisations, political organisations, etc.

The Government

Since 3rd October 2011, the present Government has consisted of the parties Social Democrats, Social Liberals and Socialist People´s Party. Helle Thorning-Schmidt, from the Social Democrats is the Prime Minister.

And now the really interesting bit

29.04.13 @ 20:35

BRUSSELS - Danes and Swedes are the highest taxed people in Europe, according to research published on Monday (29 April).

Denmark and Sweden claim tax revenues accounting for 47.7 percent of economic output and 44.5 percent respectively.

The two countries also have the highest top rates of income tax at 55.6 and 56.5 percent respectively.
 

Keith

Moderator
Interesting in todays journal one of the Colorado school dostricts got a36% increase in spending per student for the last 3 years, core test scoresdd dropped 8%. Its not about money, its about parental comoitment, libs want schools to replace parental responsibility, hell they want gov to repalce personal responsibility, wont work.

It's already happened here with alarming results because some parents, who are usually 'victims' of the culture of entitlement, seem to have opted out of any sense of parental responsibility as regards the direction of their offspring.
 
Interesting

Denmark Is Considered The Happiest Country.

Last month, Denmark was crowned the happiest country in the world.

Denmark supports parents

Health care is a civil right -- and a source of social support

Danes feel a responsibility to one another
Danes don't prioritize social security and safety simply so they can receive benefits; there's a real sense of collective responsibility and belonging.

Denmark is a society where citizens participate and contribute to making society work. More than 40 percent of all Danes do voluntary work in cultural and sports associations, NGOs, social organisations, political organisations, etc.

The Government

Since 3rd October 2011, the present Government has consisted of the parties Social Democrats, Social Liberals and Socialist People´s Party. Helle Thorning-Schmidt, from the Social Democrats is the Prime Minister.

And now the really interesting bit

29.04.13 @ 20:35

BRUSSELS - Danes and Swedes are the highest taxed people in Europe, according to research published on Monday (29 April).

Denmark and Sweden claim tax revenues accounting for 47.7 percent of economic output and 44.5 percent respectively.

The two countries also have the highest top rates of income tax at 55.6 and 56.5 percent respectively.


The high tax rate is no surprise , the two countries jointly have a poulation of 15 million. I dont know how many of them are wage earners but its small pickings for any government to run a country. No room for waste which is probably why everyone is happy.

Bob
 

Keith

Moderator
Interesting

Denmark Is Considered The Happiest Country.

Last month, Denmark was crowned the happiest country in the world.

Denmark supports parents

Health care is a civil right -- and a source of social support

Danes feel a responsibility to one another
Danes don't prioritize social security and safety simply so they can receive benefits; there's a real sense of collective responsibility and belonging.

Denmark is a society where citizens participate and contribute to making society work. More than 40 percent of all Danes do voluntary work in cultural and sports associations, NGOs, social organisations, political organisations, etc.

The Government

Since 3rd October 2011, the present Government has consisted of the parties Social Democrats, Social Liberals and Socialist People´s Party. Helle Thorning-Schmidt, from the Social Democrats is the Prime Minister.

And now the really interesting bit

29.04.13 @ 20:35

BRUSSELS - Danes and Swedes are the highest taxed people in Europe, according to research published on Monday (29 April).

Denmark and Sweden claim tax revenues accounting for 47.7 percent of economic output and 44.5 percent respectively.

The two countries also have the highest top rates of income tax at 55.6 and 56.5 percent respectively.



Time and time again elections have been fought here on taxation. "I can go lower than you" - is plainly bullshit as we end up paying higher rates of indirect and hidden 'stealth' taxes as a result. At least income tax is reasonably transparent.

Caution: "the other man's grass" etc.
 

Keith

Moderator
The high tax rate is no surprise , the two countries jointly have a poulation of 15 million. I dont know how many of them are wage earners but its small pickings for any government to run a country. No room for waste which is probably why everyone is happy.

Bob

Maybe that's why the Scots want independence.... so they can happy too... God knows they need to be...:)
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Its not about money, its about parental comoitment, libs want schools to replace parental responsibility, hell they want gov to repalce personal responsibility, wont work.

Sean,

You either you have no idea what you are talking about or you just believe the lies that Conservatives tell you!

Sean, if you want to talk parental responsibility in schooling and life in general, then you are in for a shock.

Blue States have a higher rate of High School Graduation.

Blue states have a higher rate of College Graduation.

Blue states have a higher rate of Advanced degrees.

Blue states have higher income.

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But Red States do lead in several catagories.


Red States have a higher drop out rate.

Red States have a Divorce rate

Red States have a higher abortion rate.

Red states have a higher unwed child birth rate.

Red states have a higher foodstamp rate.

Red states have a higher welfare rate.

Red states have a higher suicide rate.

Red States have a higher murder rate.

Red states have a higher vehicle death rate (mostly due to no seatbelts)

Red States virtually all receive more from the Government than they pay in taxes.


So Sean, instead of spreading lies, why dont you Consevatives quit trying to blame others for your problems and educate your childern, teach them about birth control and get them to wear their fucking seatbelts!

Oh yea, and get them to stop accepting more dollars from the Government than they pay in taxes!
 
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Maybe that's why the Scots want independence.... so they can happy too... God knows they need to be...:)

100% of the Scots in my poll were very happy, although there do seem to be a high percentage of very grumpy Americans and Australians frequenting the paddock, they obviously need to be taxed more ;)
 

Keith

Moderator
100% of the Scots in my poll were very happy, although there do seem to be a high percentage of very grumpy Americans and Australians frequenting the paddock, they obviously need to be taxed more ;)

You've got a point there.....

Mind you, I'm happy. During financial year 2012/2013 I paid £285.00 tax total. Guess what? I had a note from HMRC today saying that they have refunded me £285.00!

I checked my bank account, and sure enough, there it be.....

PS there are some very rude people on here today. I hope they're not parents - such a bad example. Tut tut...
 

Keith

Moderator
So Sean, instead of spreading lies, why dont you Consevatives quit trying to blame others for your problems and educate your childern, teach them about birth control and get them to wear their fucking seatbelts!

A classic example of the abdication of intelligent parenting...

Talk about irony!

I feel sorry for his kids..do they know he behaves like this in public?
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
A classic example of the abdication of intelligent parenting...

Talk about irony!

I feel sorry for his kids..do they know he behaves like this in public?


Keith,

So you think its OK for Sean to say this:

".....its about parental comoitment, libs want schools to replace parental responsibility, hell they want gov to repalce personal responsibility, wont work".

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So Keith, thats OK, but my pointing out that in virtually every meaningful catigory conservitives have let their childern down BADLY, your not OK with that!

Posting lies is OK with Keith put pointing out those lies, that is not OK with Keith and makes him feel sorry for my kids!


By the way Keith, I would not feel too sorry for our daughter, she went to college and is currently an SEO Digital Marketing Manager at Seagate making six figures.

She is fully aware that I passonatly defend things I care about.
 
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