Er no\
Pure liberal hogwash (along with 99% of the other info).
Who are you and what have you done with Nick?
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They would be executed, or should be. $7.4 trillion since 1/20/2009 and growing, probably GW's fault.
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Originally Posted by Pete
Pete,
America is far from bankrupt, our economy is making trillions, and growing daily!
Our problem is not spending, the problem is we do not pay enough in taxes to cover what we have been spending.
If we want to live in a first world country, with all the benifits that come with that, we need to pay for it!
Now if we really want to spend more on our military than the next ten Countries combined.......
If we dont want our social safety nets...........................
If we don't want old folks to go without medicine.............
Thats fine, we can vote on that, but I think we know how that will come out, don't we.
We as a country want these things and we need to pay for them.
U.S. Has Some Of The Lowest Tax Rates In The Developed World
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PolitiFact Texas | Michael McCaul says U.S. corporate tax rate is world
We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. 2012 was a record tax year $2.4 trillion, the idiots spent $3.5 trillion. You're not supposed to spend more than you make, any moron knows that! Just because it's a government doesn't mean that basic economic practices go out the window. No matter what we take in in taxes, they spend more. It needs to stop!
We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. 2012 was a record tax year $2.4 trillion, the idiots spent $3.5 trillion. You're not supposed to spend more than you make, any moron knows that! Just because it's a government doesn't mean that basic economic practices go out the window. No matter what we take in in taxes, they spend more. It needs to stop!
Er no
Pure liberal hogwash (along with 99% of the other info).
Who are you and what have you done with Nick?
You seem muddled up Bob, that was a line from Larry, or maybe Larry confused you as well, rest assured, and fear not, I am still here
Well said Jim
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That is indeed true...
One only has to look at Scandinavia.....
However, by comparison they are only 'micro economies' with one in particular being out of kilter because of North Sea Oil & Gas revenues. Quite how their economic model would work in a country the size and complexity of the UK or France is another matter. Perhaps that is why they have so many issues with immigration and their potential dependents.
As regards health & social care in the UK, I am not sure the 'cradle to grave' concept is working as I cannot see that we paid in nearly enough for it in the past and the current generation don't want to take up the slack.
One only has to look at Scandinavia.....
However, by comparison they are only 'micro economies' with one in particular being out of kilter because of North Sea Oil & Gas revenues. Quite how their economic model would work in a country the size and complexity of the UK or France is another matter. Perhaps that is why they have so many issues with immigration and their potential dependents.
As regards health & social care in the UK, I am not sure the 'cradle to grave' concept is working as I cannot see that we paid in nearly enough for it in the past and the current generation don't want to take up the slack.
"With all the benefits that come with it." Aye, there's the rub.
When do we say, "You have enough benefits?"
When do we say, "You have enough benefits?"
That is exactly the exercise we are going through here in the UK. A little late, but a whole generation has grown up dependent on handouts, it has not only become a culture - for many, it has become a business.
It's a very hard choice, whatever happens, there are victims and some people fall through the net.
I am a receiver of disability benefits and local care. I can't fault it and I can't do without it as I live alone. It does anger me to see people blatantly abusing the system.
Well said Keith. The line between those who truly need and fraud has been demolished.
There may be faults with Obamacare, but it does solve pre existing conditions. Never saw the Repubs solving that. Of course all you guys on group plans or Medicare never had to deal with that. You'd rather let the insurers set the rules and rake in obscene profits. I didn't agree with the premium subsidies only that no one should be denied coverage for health history.
Dave, I agree that the third party payor system we've had doesn't work and Universal coverage is an appropriate goal. The issue with Obamacare is that it is fiscally destructive and accelerates our debt/deficit issue. Universal coverage is pointless if we go bankrupt.... that's when you quickly evolve into Universal no coverage when the whole system breaks down.
Pete McCluskey.
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Jim, despite your graphs and statistics it boils down to simple arithmetic, if a country continually spends more than it earns it will eventually go broke and then recession or depression or total collapse occurs. It may not happen next week or next year but it will happen.
You teach history but seem not to learn from it.
Jeff I agree that in times when government needs to boost the economy running a deficit is sometimes necessary. Businesses sometimes make a loss and when that happens they take steps to reduce debt and become profitable once more or face bankruptcy.
They unlike government are unable to just print more money and kick the can down the road to the next generation of directors.
You teach history but seem not to learn from it.
Jeff I agree that in times when government needs to boost the economy running a deficit is sometimes necessary. Businesses sometimes make a loss and when that happens they take steps to reduce debt and become profitable once more or face bankruptcy.
They unlike government are unable to just print more money and kick the can down the road to the next generation of directors.
Faults??? That's like saying the Titanic's captain had his faults! Under 60K people were able to enroll in the first week. $250,000,000 for a screwed up computer site. Government at it's finest.
That's a blind, no competition bid for a guy that used to work on B.O.'s campaign team with stolen code, tested for only a week before roll out.
Consider that major corporations will spend $20,000 for a top notch web site.
Garbage in garbage out, GIGO, as they say in Silicon Valley.
Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Well the numbers are in..........
A majority of Americans now favor a Health Care Law, with 53% either favoring the law or say it does not go far enough!!!!!
And considerably more Americans favor a Health Care Law (53%) than favor Republicans (28%)!!!!
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A CNN Poll conducted after government shutdown shows majority think GOP control of House is bad
[*]Results are first time since GOP took control of House in 2010 that more oppose its control
[*]More than six in 10 say Speaker of the House John Boehner should lose his job
Obama's approval numbers didn't take same hit that GOP's did after shutdown
[/LIST]Washington (CNN) -- Over half the public says that it's bad for the country that the GOP controls the House of Representatives, according to a new national poll conducted after the end of the partial government shutdown.
According to the survey, 54% say it's a bad thing that the GOP controls the House, up 11 points from last December, soon after the 2012 elections when the Republicans kept control of the chamber.
This is the first time since the Republicans won back control of the House in the 2010 midterm elections that a majority say their control of the chamber is bad for the country.
Majority want Boehner out
"John Boehner fares just as badly as the GOP," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "Sixty-three percent of all Americans think that Boehner should be replaced as Speaker of the House, a view shared by roughly half of all Republicans."
"Barack Obama's remains in much better shape than the GOP," Holland said. "Even though Obama's approval rating remains stuck in the mid-40s, it didn't take a hit during the shutdown -- 44% just before the shutdown began; 44% now."
Could the Democrats retake the House?
According to the survey, 44% also say they have more confidence in Obama rather than the GOP in Congress to deal with the major issues facing the country today, a 5-point drop from last year; 31% say they have more confidence in congressional Republicans, unchanged from last December.
Majority favor health care law or say it doesn't go far enough
Even though they lost this round, conservatives vow to continue their fight to dismantle Obamacare. And they point to major troubles with the rollout of the website where Americans without insurance can enroll in the new health care exchanges.
According to the poll, just more than four in 10 say they favor the law, with 56% opposed to it.
But of those opposed, 38% say they are against the law because they think it's too liberal and 12% say it's not liberal enough. That means that 53% either support Obamacare, or say it's not liberal enough.
The health care numbers are little changed from late last month, just before the start of the shutdown.
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The best part is that come January these selfish House Republicans will undoubtly do this again, leading up to the Mid-term Elections.........
A majority of Americans now favor a Health Care Law, with 53% either favoring the law or say it does not go far enough!!!!!
And considerably more Americans favor a Health Care Law (53%) than favor Republicans (28%)!!!!
**************
A CNN Poll conducted after government shutdown shows majority think GOP control of House is bad
[*]Results are first time since GOP took control of House in 2010 that more oppose its control
[*]More than six in 10 say Speaker of the House John Boehner should lose his job
Obama's approval numbers didn't take same hit that GOP's did after shutdown
[/LIST]Washington (CNN) -- Over half the public says that it's bad for the country that the GOP controls the House of Representatives, according to a new national poll conducted after the end of the partial government shutdown.
According to the survey, 54% say it's a bad thing that the GOP controls the House, up 11 points from last December, soon after the 2012 elections when the Republicans kept control of the chamber.
This is the first time since the Republicans won back control of the House in the 2010 midterm elections that a majority say their control of the chamber is bad for the country.
Majority want Boehner out
"John Boehner fares just as badly as the GOP," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "Sixty-three percent of all Americans think that Boehner should be replaced as Speaker of the House, a view shared by roughly half of all Republicans."
"Barack Obama's remains in much better shape than the GOP," Holland said. "Even though Obama's approval rating remains stuck in the mid-40s, it didn't take a hit during the shutdown -- 44% just before the shutdown began; 44% now."
Could the Democrats retake the House?
According to the survey, 44% also say they have more confidence in Obama rather than the GOP in Congress to deal with the major issues facing the country today, a 5-point drop from last year; 31% say they have more confidence in congressional Republicans, unchanged from last December.
Majority favor health care law or say it doesn't go far enough
Even though they lost this round, conservatives vow to continue their fight to dismantle Obamacare. And they point to major troubles with the rollout of the website where Americans without insurance can enroll in the new health care exchanges.
According to the poll, just more than four in 10 say they favor the law, with 56% opposed to it.
But of those opposed, 38% say they are against the law because they think it's too liberal and 12% say it's not liberal enough. That means that 53% either support Obamacare, or say it's not liberal enough.
The health care numbers are little changed from late last month, just before the start of the shutdown.
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The best part is that come January these selfish House Republicans will undoubtly do this again, leading up to the Mid-term Elections.........
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Where was the survey taken? Harlem?
Real Clear Politics posts this LIST of surveys...and THEY all say the exact reverse:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
'Bit DIFFERENT from your cherry-picked survey, huh.
Just wait until all the lemmings find out the REAL cost TO T-H-E-M of this albatross...and the monstrous DEDUCTABLES they're going to have to pay before Oblahblahcare actually kicks in $$$$$$$$$$-wise.
Real Clear Politics posts this LIST of surveys...and THEY all say the exact reverse:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
'Bit DIFFERENT from your cherry-picked survey, huh.
Just wait until all the lemmings find out the REAL cost TO T-H-E-M of this albatross...and the monstrous DEDUCTABLES they're going to have to pay before Oblahblahcare actually kicks in $$$$$$$$$$-wise.
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Jim Craik
Lifetime Supporter
Larry,
I think some of the difference is how the questions are asked. It appears that when polled, approximately 12% say they are against the Health Care Law, but when questioned further, it turns out they are against it because it does not go far enough.
Those people are not against a Govenment health care law per sa, yet it appears that many Poll takers count them that way.
I think some of the difference is how the questions are asked. It appears that when polled, approximately 12% say they are against the Health Care Law, but when questioned further, it turns out they are against it because it does not go far enough.
Those people are not against a Govenment health care law per sa, yet it appears that many Poll takers count them that way.
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