automatic...

[jyrki sulka]

Paolo,

25 years ago doctor said to me "your health inspection for driving licence is ok, except that you`ll get one term in licence: must use automatic `couse your bad left leg", and i said "hell, no way". After 10 min discussion i asked him outside, and showed with my Capri 3000GT that i can press clutch pedal. He said "ok ok, please let me out, now!" No terms....
I`ve never used automatic in my personal or family use. And rallying (and racing) over 20 y now; always with manual, with triple plate clutches too.
Can i live? :happy:

But as i wrote, i`m afraid engine torque (charged) will smash budget `boxes, and if i understud right, even ZF is not bombproof solution. Only expensive to replace.
One way is put UN1-base straight cut bogbox (make by local -true- specialist). But how much rest of transaxle will bear, meaning pinion and ring gear etc?

 

[Jac Mac]

Wouldnt be impossible, I worked out how I could adapt a C6 or C4 trans body on the unit I am building ( just in case I live to 105 & become more lethargic than I am now ).

Would add about 4" to the OA length to accomodate the governer assy.

 

[Bart Roberts]

There is nothing terribly wrong with the Chrylser 42LE. They do require frequent fluid changes but mostly because some of the passages are so small and frequent fluid changes keeps those passages clean. Early models have the most issues. 42LE in late LHS, and 300M seem to be the best. There are also "high energy" clutch packs available. The transmission controller can be handled by these folks:http://www.powertraincontrolsolutions.com/content-4.html. All they require is an input for engine speed. The 42le was moved to the rear of the prowler and set up like late model corvettes. I know a couple of supercharged Prowlers in the 400hp range without transaxle problems. I am getting ready to see if it is possible to mate a Ford Modular to the 42le. Hope I helped.

 

[Paolo-LoveGT40 Modelworks]

Paolo,

25 years ago doctor said to me "your health inspection for driving licence is ok, except that you`ll get one term in licence: must use automatic `couse your bad left leg", and i said "hell, no way". After 10 min discussion i asked him outside, and showed with my Capri 3000GT that i can press clutch pedal. He said "ok ok, please let me out, now!" No terms....
I`ve never used automatic in my personal or family use. And rallying (and racing) over 20 y now; always with manual, with triple plate clutches too.
Can i live? :happy:

ahahah...grande!:thumbsup:

 

[egoman/ Shawn Wedge]

Thank you Bartman thats the type of info I was looking for.I would like to turbo the 3.5 and run that with the megasquirt system. I will look further into controlling the tranny separately.There are allways some who would rain on the parade but this tranny got lots of street miles so I think as a limited use autocrosser with a decent maintenance program it should last.

 

[Bart Roberts]

Thank you Bartman thats the type of info I was looking for.I would like to turbo the 3.5 and run that with the megasquirt system. I will look further into controlling the tranny separately.There are allways some who would rain on the parade but this tranny got lots of street miles so I think as a limited use autocrosser with a decent maintenance program it should last.

Anytime, the 3.5 is a great engine with about 250hp bone stock. You can get close in the 275-300hp range with an open exhaust and a reprogrammed ecu. The link provided can reprogram your ecu for much higher hp with advanced ignition and shift curves, they can also remove the anti-theft and upper speed limit.

Welcome to B&G Performance "A World Leader in DCX & EURO Tuning Solutions" - Dodge/Jeep/Mini/Bentley Motors/AMG/Mercedes/Ferrari/Porsche PCM/TCM(Computer)Flashes

These folks have a kit car that utilizes this package but they did not want to share much info, well at least to me.

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[Mike]

Anytime, the 3.5 is a great engine with about 250hp bone stock. You can get close in the 275-300hp range with an open exhaust and a reprogrammed ecu. The link provided can reprogram your ecu for much higher hp with advanced ignition and shift curves, they can also remove the anti-theft and upper speed limit.

Welcome to B&G Performance "A World Leader in DCX & EURO Tuning Solutions" - Dodge/Jeep/Mini/Bentley Motors/AMG/Mercedes/Ferrari/Porsche PCM/TCM(Computer)Flashes

These folks have a kit car that utilizes this package but they did not want to share much info, well at least to me.

formula1street, custom indy cars,formula 1 cars, kit cars, custom built cars

WOW! Those are quite the lttle machines. I can picture people staring now......and snickering and laughing. :laugh:

IMO, that thing just looks DUMB!!:thumbsdown:

 

[Bart Roberts]

WOW! Those are quite the lttle machines. I can picture people staring now......and snickering and laughing. :laugh:

IMO, that thing just looks DUMB!!:thumbsdown:

The purpose of the link was about the 3.5 and 42LE not the kit car, I don't care much for it either. BUT jerks like you is why I do not post.

 

[Pete T]

The 42LE isn't a bad teansaxle. (along with the 41TE transverse version) They got a bad rep because of a few things. First like most companies, Chrysler got then out in cars a little too early and they were plaiged with controller and hardware problems. After about 1994 most of the bugs were worked out. There were many (probably isn't the correct term) updates made to these up through about 2000. The biggest thing that gave these a bad rep was very poor transmission shops. This was the most advanced transmission of the time and most did not know how to troubleshoot or rebuild them correctly. Hense, many people got taken. $2000-4000 rebuilds, rebuilds with less than 30,000 miles mostly because of sensor issues. It is still happening now.

There is a company here in the Chicago area that drag races a Shadow with a twin turbocharged 3.0L v6 (400+hp) and hasn' destroyed any transaxles. They build these to spec for customers.

The 42TE has more toqur capacity than the 41TE. The numbers stand for "4" 4 speed; "1" or "2" is the torque capacity (I haven't found anything that actually puts a real torque number to this) "TE" transverse; "LE" longitudal.

The 41TE is used in every transverse Chrysler product with a 4 spd auto. This includes the minivans which are about 4000# unloaded. (5300 GVW) They now have a 6spd transverse unit based on the 41TE. I'm not certian if they have done the same for the 42LE.

I wasn't aware that there was anyone that does a controller for these until I read the above. I am going to check them out.

 

[Bart Roberts]

I agree with you about the issues with the trans. I think a lot of people got major rebuilds when they only had a sensor or solenoid problem. The other major issue was people adding the wrong fuild, Mercon/Dexron will kill these transaxles quickly.

That trans controller is pretty nice, it has auto and manual modes and they also offer column mounted paddle shifters. I've used the conroller but not the paddle shifters.

 

[Mike]

The purpose of the link was about the 3.5 and 42LE not the kit car, I don't care much for it either. BUT jerks like you is why I do not post.

Sorry if you took offense about MY OPINION about something you posted, but I can't really know for sure how different people will take, really, any comment. If you read the thread entirely, you will see that I tried to add a valid, at least I think it was since it related direct experiences of a family member with that tranny, opinion. I never bagged on your opinion of a Ford 3.5 and, from what I know, they seem to be pretty good little engines......SOOOO, with that said, the only conclusion I can come to is that YOU are the jerk for bringing up a topic that was completely unrelated, the Ford 3.5, then turning a conversation that was strictly about a tranny and then your beloved 3.5, into some personal attack against ME, all because, even though you agreed with me, you got it in your head that somehow I was being the jerk here. Whatever. Now I certainly see why you haven't posted very much, and just a suggestion for the future, keep the arguments about the topics and not the posters and your POV will seem a lot more valid. Once again, of course, that's just my OPINION.

 

[Mike]

Oh and BTW- The tranny I was referring to WAS one of the early ones. It was bought new in an Intrepid and always factory serviced yet still needed to be completely replaced twice under factory warranty. If they got better or not I don't know. My brother got rid of that car and bought a Honda Odosey (sp?) instead so his wife could haul the family around.

 

[mike bauer]

For those interested, Bartman has developed his own controller and the current literature on these transaxles was that even the dealers were ignorant on which fluid to use let alone repair them. Here is a video of a Nitrous prowler v.s. Corvette
YouTube - Car Races - Prowler NOS vs Corvette

 

[mike bauer]

YouTube - Dan Pena's 99 Supercharged Prowler BurnOut (MPG version)

YouTube - Dan Pena Showing off Paxton Supercharger

 

[Eric A.]

Bartman is putting one of these behind an LS 1 engine in one of his builds. I did the adapter kit for him and I am eager to hear how this turns out.

 

[Doug S.]

I looked at a Valkyrie with a BowTie 350 and an automatic once. The owner said it was a Chrysler 727 Torqueflite. It was in such bad shape that I wasn't interested (no windows, didn't run and hadn't for 2 years, and the owner still wanted $20K for it, so I ran like the wind!), but it did have a north-south orientation and no clutch pedal, so I'm sure it was an automatic. I've never seen another, though......

Doug

 

[Scott]

The 3 speed audi gearbox used in the 5000 is a poor choice for performance applications. It can handle 300 ft.lbs tops.

The 5HP series of ZF gearboxes are much more robust, and when properly built can handle about 600 ft/lbs. However they are computer controlled so you will have to deal with that.

 

[2088bob]

I know this thread has been inactive for a while

But here is a thought ,has anyone seriously given any thought to the use of the gm th325-4l . I have just have had conversation with extreme automatics out of ohio . they build some of the highest performance 200r's on the planet , most of the parts in a th325-4l are based on the later 200r just talked to lonny the shop foreman he said full manual valve body is no problem and building to survive 500hp is normal shop practise for them

 

[2088bob]

this makes for some interesting reading


http://www.fieroaddiction.com/SBCLa.html

 

[Jack]

The issues with both the 325-4l and the 425 are both the oil pan and weight. Man, they are heavy.