In your face, comrade!

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
His silence speaks volumes, Jim :thumbsdown:

Cheers!

Doug
 
I didn't expect you to get it, but I will try once more.

Maher was calling Palin and Bachman stupid and attaching an inappropriate name to that. His point was they were stupid, not that they were "cunts."

Limbaugh was going after Sandra Fluke for wanting access to birth control so she could have sex, and called her a slut and a prostitute as a result.

If you don't get why most women could care less about the first and find the second ridicously offensive, I'd have to suggest you are an out of touch middle aged white guy.

Ahhh, then he wasted the word cunt for no reason, I see. If you had read what I said you would see that I know which words get women pissed. If you believe that Bill Maher called them "stupid cunts" and only meant "stupid" you are a naive middle aged guy.
 
Tom,

You continually enter into discussions, make bold statements and then refuse to answer.................

Come on Tom, time to be a man!

Did I comdem Mr Maher?

Do you condemn all one sided hate talk?

Are Limbaugh, Hamity, Beck.......Patriots, great Americans and heros?

Are Oberman, Maddow, Maher.......Patriots, great Americans and heros?

Are you OK with being fed missleading one sided information?

What are you talking about? Why is it always a masculine thing with you? It's nice that you can see both sides, it's a shame that the main stream media can't do the same.
 
Tom,

Why don't you answer the questions?


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Yes
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No There are many important newsworthy articles the US main stream media doesn't cover that I've seen in foreign news and other sources. Don't ask me to list them, go look for yourself.
 

Jim Craik

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Thank you Tom, I really appreciate your input and honesty.

For years, Frances and I have been taking the Economist, i may be wrong, but I really have not noticed an obvious slant to their reporting. I very much enjoy seeing stories covered from different perspectives. Plus they seem to have a kind of rye humor that we enjoy.
 
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Jim Craik

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The board Nazi at it again!

I also condemn this type of hate talk. It adds nothing to the discussion. But it does show clearly that the poster knows very little about Nazis and even less about me.

Why someone would think to compare one of the worst periods in history, the horrific murder of millions to a discussion about condemning hate talk is way beyond my ability to understand.
 
Soooo limbaugh called some girl a slut!! Oh my gosh what are we going to do?? ban him from the radio?..I sure as hell hope our president speaks up about this tragedy...I mean really WTF a slut?? how the hell can anyone say that and get away with it.....
God you libs are weak....hahaha
My question is........could she really be a slut? hmmmm
I mean maybe she sucks like a vacuum..why hasn't the news media looked into this situation like "joe the plumber"
you're all a bunch of fools.....
 

Pat

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Disclaimer: I don't agree with Maher calling Palin and Bachman "stupid cunts."

But there is a reason why women are pissed off at the Republicans/LImbaugh and not Maher.

Maher wasn't calling a woman a derogatory sexual term because she was exercising her right to have sex with whoever she wanted. Limbaugh was doing exactly that. Maher was basically calling Palin and BAchman stupid and then attaching a derogatory word to stupid.

I'm sure this seems like hair splitting or rationalizing to you, but I assure you it is the difference.

No Jeff, perhaps you need to become better informed in what exactly Ms. Fluke said and has written and what Mr. Limbaugh said. You may also want to refresh yourself on the meaning of the word "c*nt" Mr. Maher repeadedly directed at Ms. Palin. (Hint: he used "stupid" as a modifier.)
But back to Ms. Fluke, she wants all religiously-affiliated institutions (including one that she sought out for this purpose) to provide abortion/sterilization/contraception services to its students FOR FREE in contravention of their religious teachings. Mr. Limbaugh’s crude assertions never made issue about Ms. Fluke’s right to have sex, only having its related contraception expense fully subsidized by a religious institution. He was especially incensed as to her testimony about the sad choices Georgetown coeds are forced to make because of the repression by the university’s refusal to fully subsidize the expenses related to their sexual activities. (Apparently the male students at Georgetown are irresponsible cads and contribute nothing) She pretends it is an economic issue when in fact she (and the other "embarrassed and just powerless" Georgetown coeds) can get all their birth control needs met for free or at little to no cost from sources other than her Catholic university.
But that not the point. She wants to force the Catholic and other religiously affiliated institutions to go against its teachings (as does the Obama Administration) or bring them to their knees. According to the Washington Post, she has been pushing for mandated coverage of contraceptives at Georgetown for at least three years. Apparently, her end game is far broader, she also believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if "gender reassignment" surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance as well. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.
So what's this all about? The Obama administration was caught out by their declining popularity among women. Not able to run on their record, they resorted to what politicians do, promise freebies (free birth control), demonize the opposition and create the Republican "War on Women" narrative.
They went a little too far and had a public relations problem by threatening the Catholic Church. So they trot out activist Ms. Fluke to play the impoverished victim "War on Women" card to obscure the administration's unfortunate publicity related to the Catholic Church. In an amazing coincidence, Ms. Fluke happens to be represented by the progressive PR agency SKDKnickerbocker where, wait for it... Anita Dunn, the former Obama communications director is the managing editor. Imagine that.
Then a gift falls in their laps, Mr. Limbaugh stupidly calls Ms Fluke crude/rude names and hits a home run for the left. Now that's all we hear. There are now calls by feminist attorney Gloria Allred (the one that ruined Herman Cain) to have him arrested – Predator drone strike anyone??? (You bet he’s sorry!)
Bill Maher said far worse things but he’s just a lovable rogue, after all his filth was directed at conservatives (mostly). The Obama campaign accepts his million dollar contribution and leading Democrats still flock to be guests on his show – no repudiation there.
Sadly the mandate against persons of faith to provide abortion/sterilization/contraception remains in place and the war on religion continues.
 
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Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
Sadly the mandate against persons of faith to provide abortion/sterilization/contraception remains in place and the war on religion continues.

I'm not sure how we can blame government, after all the adherents to the Catholic faith have almost universally rejected the church's prohibition against birth control already.

I fail to see how requiring an insurance company of offer a benefit requires the insured party to take advantage of the benefit. Wouldn't you think the place to press the church's issue with birth control is in the church and at home?

I mean, aren't we humans for the most part able to exercise free will?

Cheers!

Doug
 

Jim Craik

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It's easy,

if you do not want to use birth control, don't use it! Churches are allowed to tell us not to use birth control, they are not allowed to forbid it.

That's called freedom. Veek thinks the churches should be able to make that decision for us. That's not a "war on religion" that's religion entering our life and telling us how to live it. Big difference.

In a modern society, we all end up funding thing we do not like. I have no children in school, yet I am forced to fund them. I was against the Iraq war, yet I funded it. We all do it.....get over it.

But now that I think about it, the churches do not fund schools or the Iraq war, they pay no taxes............WAR ON RELIGION?

What a bunch of propaganda!
 
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Jim Craik

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In many Muslim countries the churches can tell you what to do, they can forbid you do do almost anything they wish. Veek seems to think that is a good idea. Perhaps he would be happier in a country were religion is King.

NOT ME!
 
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'Dolph is twisting things around, "if you do not want to use birth control, don't use it! Churches are allowed to tell us not to use birth control, they are not allowed to forbid it."

No, no, 'Dolph, the government is forcing the church to supply birth control.
 
One of the few things the Constitution allows the Federal government to do is defend the country.

As far as the federal level, no you shouldn't fund education. That is a local matter that you would have much more of a say over.

Contraceptives do nothing for defense, as a matter of fact it makes us weaker, or education. They just make it very easy for young kids to "act" like adults.

But, most importantly, 'Dolph, the contraceptive scandal is part of b.o.'s 2012 campaign strategy to get people's mind off the economy.

You know, like using Monica to get people's minds off of Chinagate. :~)
 
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