Israel and Gaza?

[Nick]

Reason magazine’s Peter Suderman asked Paul, “You have been accused in the past of blaming America for violent acts, for terrorist acts. I want to know first how you respond to that charge.”

Paul called that characterization “a fallacy and a misrepresentation of what I say.”

“I don’t blame America,” Paul said. “I’m America, you’re America. I don’t blame you, I blame bad policy, I blame the interventionists, I blame the neoconservatives who preach this stuff, who believe in it like a religion, that they have to promote American goodness even if you have to bomb and kill people. So you blame policy. That is altogether different.”

 

[Nick]

Deleted because the aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. No progress is being made, and life is too short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE

 

[Larry L.]

“I don’t blame America,” Paul said. “I’m America, you’re America. I don’t blame you, I blame bad policy, I blame the interventionists, I blame the neoconservatives who preach this stuff, who believe in it like a religion, that they have to promote American goodness even if you have to bomb and kill people. So you blame policy. That is altogether different.”

'Spin. He said what he said.

It's like Obama when he said "You can KEEP your doctor"...and then later he claimed, "What we said was..."

 

[Nick]

'Spin. He said what he said.

"

Sorry keep forgetting we have to abide by a different set or rules :thumbsup:

THAT's all you could hang your hat on????????!

EVEN THE ARTICLE'S AUTHOR said that was a "slip of the tongue." I've made the same one a time or two my own darned self. (Of course, you probably never have, right? Right.)

Not that we are getting of topic or anything. Time to leave I believe.



Peace love and understanding tell me
Is there no place for them today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dKAX7Jp8wo

 

[Terry Oxandale]

Do you actually read what you put up here? Russia attacked the Ukrainians without provocation to seize land, the Israelis are reacting to missile attacks by Hamas. Israel is not counter attacking to get land in Gaza, they gave that land to the Palestinians. Our support for Israel cannot be seen in the same light, it's for survival, not a land grab. One thing, and only one thing has to be done to have peace, Hamas has to stop their attacks.

Israeli disengagement from Gaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is silly. You take an event from 2005, look at it through a straw, and imply no settlements are being developed? Perhaps we both need to review what is posted. Hint: West Bank settlements.

 

[Terry Oxandale]

Here is an entertaining clip about discussions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is uncomfortably close to reality in many cases. Ya gotta laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGagebPaoYE

 

[Larry L.]

Quote:

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'Spin. He said what he said.

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Sorry keep forgetting we have to abide by a different set or rules :thumbsup:


Quote:
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THAT's all you could hang your hat on????????!

EVEN THE ARTICLE'S AUTHOR said that was a "slip of the tongue." I've made the same one a time or two my own darned self. (Of course, you probably never have, right? Right.)

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^^^Speaking of spin...^^^

Ron Paul's original stmt wasn't a "slip of the tongue".

 

[Robert May Eng.]

Well with 166 replies and 3200 views the paddock top negotiators have no answer to bring this conflict to an end. Instead you have chosen to attack each other :laugh: That is a piss poor chaps Looks like Petes suggestion to glass the place is about it then.

Bob

 

[Nick]

Here is an entertaining clip about discussions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is uncomfortably close to reality in many cases. Ya gotta laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGagebPaoYE

:thumbsup: sums it up 100%

Well with 166 replies and 3200 views the paddock top negotiators have no answer to bring this conflict to an end. Instead you have chosen to attack each other :laugh: That is a piss poor chaps Looks like Petes suggestion to glass the place is about it then.

Bob

Bob,

Not the answer as it will not solve anything.

So I will call a cease fire at the end of this post, on my part and not attack anyone from now on. Hopefully the other side will match it because they will have nothing to retaliate against.

Even though I never started it and only retaliated to an attack ( attempt at satire )

 

[Al Wohlstrom]

This is silly. You take an event from 2005, look at it through a straw, and imply no settlements are being developed? Perhaps we both need to review what is posted. Hint: West Bank settlements.

I wasn't aware that the West Bank is part of the Gaza Strip, we are talking about Gaza, aren't we?

 

[Keith]

I tip my Fedora in your general direction comrades. I have never yet witnessed such a frank exchange of contrary views couched in such gentle terms in this here Paddock...:thumbsup:

That surely is progress? (A little entrenched still, I grant you, but progress nevertheless)

PS Pete will NOT be happy, there's no sting in it.....

 

[Al Wohlstrom]

I tip my Fedora in your general direction comrades. I have never yet witnessed such a frank exchange of contrary views couched in such gentle terms in this here Paddock...:thumbsup:

That surely is progress? (A little entrenched still, I grant you, but progress nevertheless)

PS Pete will NOT be happy, there's no sting in it.....

Awwww fuck off!

 

[Jack]

this video from an Israeli drone tell it all!

LiveLeak.com - Israeli drone captures Hamas Forces Having Sex With Goats

 

[Larry L.]

I think I'll 'pass' on viewing this ^^^... :yuck:

 

[Jack]

Larry, it was meant for Pete...

 

[Keith]

Awwww fuck off!

That's my boy! :laugh:

 

[Robert May Eng.]

this video from an Israeli drone tell it all!

LiveLeak.com - Israeli drone captures Hamas Forces Having Sex With Goats

Jack you should be more careful posting vids like this , thems blokes from Zealand and Stralia may consider this porn

Bob

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

Jack you should be more careful posting vids like this , thems blokes from Zealand and Stralia may consider this porn

Bob

Nah mate, the kiwis go for sheep the wooly things. Goats are hairy and smell bad. Aussies go for Sheila's that if you are unlucky can also be hairy and smell bad.:shocked:

 

[Jack]

I almost responded to that Pete...

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

Feel free Jack, feel free. I was fishing for Kiwis though.:evil: