More Global Cooling/Warming/Change hoax.
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I declare a wonderful victory for the forces of carbon control! Global warming has been conquered! Now, we must put our efforts into bringing Third World Countries into line with our standard of pollution control. Onward Comrades!!!!!
'Whether you’re talking about tornadoes, wildfires, extreme heat or hurricanes, the good news is that weather-related disasters in the US are all way down this year compared to recent years and, in some cases, down to historically low levels.'
Tornadoes: 'lowest total in several decades'
Number of wildfires: 'On pace to be the lowest it has been in the past ten years'
Extreme Heat: The number of 100 degree days may 'turn out to be the lowest in about 100 years of records'
Hurricanes: 'We are currently in the longest period (8 years) since the Civil War Era without a major hurricane strike in the US (i.e., category 3, 4 or 5)' ( last major hurricane to strike the US was Hurricane Wilma in 2005)"
New Study: ’2013 ranks as one of the least extreme U.S. weather years ever’– Many bad weather events at ‘historically low levels’ | Climate Depot
'Whether you’re talking about tornadoes, wildfires, extreme heat or hurricanes, the good news is that weather-related disasters in the US are all way down this year compared to recent years and, in some cases, down to historically low levels.'
Tornadoes: 'lowest total in several decades'
Number of wildfires: 'On pace to be the lowest it has been in the past ten years'
Extreme Heat: The number of 100 degree days may 'turn out to be the lowest in about 100 years of records'
Hurricanes: 'We are currently in the longest period (8 years) since the Civil War Era without a major hurricane strike in the US (i.e., category 3, 4 or 5)' ( last major hurricane to strike the US was Hurricane Wilma in 2005)"
New Study: ’2013 ranks as one of the least extreme U.S. weather years ever’– Many bad weather events at ‘historically low levels’ | Climate Depot
'They' will of course, re-categorize everything, to twist the figures back to where they will again support the Climate Change argument.
All previous floods, will be classified as puddles, Tornado's from the last 100 years, will be re classified as gentle breezes, etc etc.
They will get away with it, by educating us to the fact that previous measuring equipment was not accurate enough and people of the past tended to 'exaggerate' things more than we do today.
Cynical? Me??
All previous floods, will be classified as puddles, Tornado's from the last 100 years, will be re classified as gentle breezes, etc etc.
They will get away with it, by educating us to the fact that previous measuring equipment was not accurate enough and people of the past tended to 'exaggerate' things more than we do today.
Cynical? Me??
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
So typical of global warming fans, if someone disagrees call them nut cases and if that doesn't work censor them or sack them.
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Hey LB,
Ever spend some time in the Arctic? Have any idea where Svalbard is ? If you went a few times and saw the decreasing polar ice pack yourself you might not buy this anti science crap. You don't give a rat's ass about polar bears. Aren't they just something to shoot with your AK 47? My solution is more birth control. We've got too many damn people on this planet with decreasing vegetation. Of course you right wing fanatics want to do away with contraception.
Ever spend some time in the Arctic? Have any idea where Svalbard is ? If you went a few times and saw the decreasing polar ice pack yourself you might not buy this anti science crap. You don't give a rat's ass about polar bears. Aren't they just something to shoot with your AK 47? My solution is more birth control. We've got too many damn people on this planet with decreasing vegetation. Of course you right wing fanatics want to do away with contraception.
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Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
See post # 561.
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Al Gore's prediction made in his Nobel Peace prize acceptance speech that arctic ice would disappear by 2013 has been proven wrong. As have many of his other inconveniant truths.
Should he hand back his peace prize seeing it was given under false premise?
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/wrong-al-gore-predicted-arctic-summer-ice-could-disappear-2013
Should he hand back his peace prize seeing it was given under false premise?
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/wrong-al-gore-predicted-arctic-summer-ice-could-disappear-2013
I did. You need to look at long term arctic ice loss:
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2013/10/Figure3_Sept2013_trend.png
Arctic ice was 8 million sq. Km. in 1979. 3.5 million in 2012. That's a 55% decrease and the increase from 2012 to 2013 was only slight in the long term picture. Look at the graph or satellite photos. Of course you guys would say the satellite photos were doctored as a communist plot. I really don't care about Al Gore. You guys always see this as a political fight. Meanwhile we're overpopulating the world, burning up its resources, and destroying animal and forest habitats. Taking care of the environment isn't a human responsibility is it? Even your AU Parliament puts out reports substantiating global warming. Better yet go to the Arctic several times and see for yourself. I have.
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Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Long term from 1979 to 2012? You are joking, not even a millisecond in the history of the planet.
Really Long term there has been warming and cooling, it's called weather.
BTW I do care about pollution, what I dislike is people like Al Gore manipulating people like you to their way of thinking so they can make massive amounts of money.
Timeline of glaciation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Really Long term there has been warming and cooling, it's called weather.
BTW I do care about pollution, what I dislike is people like Al Gore manipulating people like you to their way of thinking so they can make massive amounts of money.
Timeline of glaciation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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I feel the same about the ice caps melting issues, we have only been here a blink in time and have been recording weather patterns a fraction of that blink. These ice caps are covering lakes and forests hundreds of meters down, I do believe its only the changing weather patterns that buried them in the first place as will uncover them in years to come. As for the recent back pedaling on the term "global warming" and renaming it "weather disturbance" makes you wonder what it will be called next. Whatever the new terminology there will be an excuse to apply a revenue to it. If the governments are so keen to be green perhaps they should look at the reasons people are having to travel so far to the workplace and do something about it, allowing small industries into the precious green belt around small towns and villages like yesteryear would put people back onto bikes but that would be to simple and cost them dearly in lost fuel revenues.
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Terry Oxandale
Skinny Man
I'm a dummy here...I'm not getting the 'get rich' scheme in all of this. How is the scientific community improving their economic status based on their findings? In my naivety, I would expect those that make these scientific claims (or that fabricate data) to be the primary financial beneficiary. I've not seen any significant linking of financial gain to this particular sector (global climate change) of the science community than to any other sector not making these claims. If they are not the primary beneficiary (if at all), wouldn't that make them indifferent to their own findings?
If others are taking advantage of these findings, and manipulating people", then wouldn't the blame for making "massive amounts of money" lay at their feet rather than blaming the scientific community for stating what they find? I wonder what percentage of the skeptics are killing the messenger, rather than pointing the finger at those who are truly responsible for the skeptic's angst.
If the police cite you for speeding on a street with a rediculously low speed limit, do you blame city hall for the limit (because they want to make money), or blame the policeman for his observation of the actual speeding (who is indifferent, and simply doing his job)?
There is large amounts of money to be made in scientific research grants, consultancy fees and Govt quangos.
Another new type of 'scam' is the trading of 'Carbon Futures' by unscrupulous traders cashing in on the fledgling 'climate change' industry. Theoretically, energy companies can trade these Futures, but they are also being mis-sold to individual investors who find them impossible to move or trade. When they wise up and get confronted, the traders (including some of the financial sector's leading commodity brokers), have conveniently moved away from trading in "these type of commodities"
We are talking billions in private investor funds that have been purloined in the name of a dodgy unregulated 'science'.
No real sympathy for these individuals who seem to be driven by greed, but just another example of the inexorably unstoppable climate change bandwagon reminiscent of the ill fated 'Darien' bubble..
It all seemed like a good idea at the time..
Another new type of 'scam' is the trading of 'Carbon Futures' by unscrupulous traders cashing in on the fledgling 'climate change' industry. Theoretically, energy companies can trade these Futures, but they are also being mis-sold to individual investors who find them impossible to move or trade. When they wise up and get confronted, the traders (including some of the financial sector's leading commodity brokers), have conveniently moved away from trading in "these type of commodities"
We are talking billions in private investor funds that have been purloined in the name of a dodgy unregulated 'science'.
No real sympathy for these individuals who seem to be driven by greed, but just another example of the inexorably unstoppable climate change bandwagon reminiscent of the ill fated 'Darien' bubble..
It all seemed like a good idea at the time..
Terry: This will give you a glimpse of the tip of the iceberg:
Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire - Telegraph
The whole 'warming' thing is a scam.
Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire - Telegraph
The whole 'warming' thing is a scam.
Polar bears, Ak 47s, birth control, oh my! What other cliches could we throw in here?
Deep man, very deep. Be careful you don't fall in.
No sense in even talking to you guys about things like polar bears. You don't care. Only see them in zoos anyway huh?
Sometimes comics have the best way of putting things into perspective, Dave.
Geo. Carlin is one. Here he addresses 'global warming' (starting at 1:28). 'VERY HARD to argue with the common sense reality he employs. His language is a bit...uh...'colorful', so be forewarned.
Oh, and BTW - he is faaaaaaaaaaaaar from being a 'conservative:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4"]George Carlin on Global Warming - YouTube[/ame]
Geo. Carlin is one. Here he addresses 'global warming' (starting at 1:28). 'VERY HARD to argue with the common sense reality he employs. His language is a bit...uh...'colorful', so be forewarned.
Oh, and BTW - he is faaaaaaaaaaaaar from being a 'conservative:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4"]George Carlin on Global Warming - YouTube[/ame]
