flatchat(Chris)
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Albins now have a range of transaxles --worth a look
http://www.albinsgear.com.au/assets/ST6_Binder2.pdf
http://www.albinsgear.com.au/assets/ST6_Binder2.pdf
Albins now have a range of transaxles --worth a look
http://www.albinsgear.com.au/assets/ST6_Binder2.pdf
I understand they have to support more HP, but how is it that you can build an engine which will make 1000HP with all of those moving parts for less than the cost of the transaxle? It just doesn't make sense to me.
Let's check the assumptions behind the question:
Can you in fact build a reliable 1000 HP engine for less than $26,000?
Does a transaxle have fewer moving parts than a pushrod V-8?
1000hp is not that hard for under 26000.
Aluminator good to 1000HP reliably for about $8K
Paxton Supercharger with intercooler for under $6K
Ported cylinder heads for under $3K
PCM, pulleys, misc for say $5K (being generous)
Assembly (varies on the skill of the person purchasing but let's say it's mostly shopped out) for another $3K
That's $25K, and yes it will have more moving parts, be reliable, and make 1000HP
1,032 RWHP Paxton Supercharged Coyote 5.0L - YouTube
Actually, that's over 1000 REAR WHEEL horsepower, so we can back that off boost a bit and increase reliability to get us down to 1000HP at the flywheel.
OK so what would the bill be from a "going concern" company like Albins that will deliver that ready to go, with a warranty, spare parts supply, etc?
IAE if that's where we're headed I can build a two-moving part motor for about $5 that will put out 1000 hp. For a few microseconds. It's electric.
I think a better question is why people continue to bitch about the cost of low-production transaxles as if that's easy and building a V-8 is hard. That's what doesn't make sense to me.
I forgot, no one else is entitled to an opinion..
Heres a bit about the process of making gears --OK, its not commercial mass production - more about the capital investment to produce such things --if you want quality and reliability this is where it starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD4jKBOIBwc
Anyway gearboxes are cheap compared to hiring a plumber or a lawyer:laugh:
I figure I should let this go lest I get lectured again on what a forum is but when we can build transmissions that are capable of handling 700lbs of torque for about $2,900, one could reasonably postulate there would be a way to build a transaxle for less than the one in question that would do the same. I'm not saying it should be the same price, or even double, not even triple, just saying that nearly 10 times the amount seems to be a bit much.
Now, is the complexity of building a transaxle really 10 times that of a transmission? I wonder. Perhaps it is the size of the market holding it back or perhaps it's just the audience that transmissions get sold to won't support high dollars and those for transaxles will (elasticity of demand if you would).
Whatever the case, I don't need one that expensive and I have found what, to me, is a very good buy in one I have a lot of faith in and the cost was reasonable. Perhaps if I were relying on it to win races every week I wouldn't mind paying ultra premium dollars for one with ultra reliability.
I figure I should let this go lest I get lectured again on what a forum is but when we can build transmissions that are capable of handling 700lbs of torque for about $2,900, one could reasonably postulate there would be a way to build a transaxle for less than the one in question that would do the same. I'm not saying it should be the same price, or even double, not even triple, just saying that nearly 10 times the amount seems to be a bit much.
Now, is the complexity of building a transaxle really 10 times that of a transmission? I wonder. Perhaps it is the size of the market holding it back or perhaps it's just the audience that transmissions get sold to won't support high dollars and those for transaxles will (elasticity of demand if you would).
Whatever the case, I don't need one that expensive and I have found what, to me, is a very good buy in one I have a lot of faith in and the cost was reasonable. Perhaps if I were relying on it to win races every week I wouldn't mind paying ultra premium dollars for one with ultra reliability.