Why I no longer post in the Paddock

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
I have recently been contacted by several folks here on the fourm, asking if I am OK, wondering why I am absent from the discussions...

Back in May, in the thread titled "Over 92 million Americans out of work", Keith entered into a discussion I was having with Pete and Al about how the number of US Govenment workers has actually declined since Reagan, even while the population grows. I added that most of the decline was military.

Keith then made the rediculous statement that the military should not be counted as Gov employees as they do not represent the true size of Govenment "PERIOD"!

I answered back with a little sarcasm...

Keith,, of course you are right, we should not count the military as Govenment because it does not represent the true size of Government PERIOD.

Of course we will now remove the COST of the military from the Federal budget at it does not represent the true COST of Government PERIOD?

I went on......

This is a great day for America, President Obama has just cut the cost of Govenment by over 50%! Now even the Tea Party should support the President!

Al then asked.....?????

So I posted the definition of "sarcasm"

Keith, who spends much of his time attacking those in a position of power and responsibility who misuse that power......

Keith then censored my post!

Now I have been called everything from a Commi/Socialist/Nazi to a F**king A**hole, Keith says nothing.

Yet I post a clever retort pointing out his own rediculous statement and he removes my post!

Now I love a good debate and I often represent the minority view. I have no problem with five or even ten to one odds, but when the person given power to controll posts censors the minority view.....

When the person with the power censors a post pointing out his own rediculous statemtent........

You know the old line...

Power corrupts, well this is a good example. It only took a few weeks before Keith, started acting like a North Korean dictator...

This was back in May...

I did not make a big deal about this, as in reality no one would take my side. Folks who think voter supression and gerrymandering are fair ways to win, will have no problm with cenoring the minority view.

Well I have a BIG problem, the 1st Amendmnt was put in place largly to protect the minority view.

To Jeff, Nick, Veek (who acually called to see if I'm OK) and the others, thanks for your concern, it means alot to me. I'm just fine, still pissed off, but just fine!

But I must stand on principle.

****You can't have a debate when one side censors the other****

First they came for the sarcasm...
 
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Keith

Moderator
Its a bit simpler than that, but at least your explanation is predictable. You admitted you deliberately set out to belittle me in your post, and you seemed quite delighted with it. The circumstances are irrelevant.

You were thereby in breach of rule 2, so I deleted that one post accordance with the rules of the forum.

So why bother with it now? Just move on and don't be such a crybaby.
 
Well I miss you Jim.

Unfortunately this place is like a school yard at times.

I doubt the propaganda you were fighting has any converting effect, if anything it makes the propagandist/s and what they represent look a little silly.
Unhappily for you, it seems some see you the same way.
FWIW, I always saw you as reactive rather than proactive.

Both sides of your country's politics are extremely disappointing to me out here in the world. Things done with (purportedly) good intentions... well it's a bloody well paved path that Hell has leading up to it...

Everything seems a little futile to me when I look at human behavior.

Tim.
 
I answered back with a little sarcasm... Because you are a wogg



So I posted the definition of "sarcasm" Because you are a wogg

Keith then censored my post! Because he is a wogg

Now I have been called everything from a Commi/Socialist/Nazi to a F**king A**hole, Keith says nothing. Because you are both woggs

Yet I post a clever retort pointing out his own rediculous statement and he removes my post! Because he is a wogg

Now I love a good debate and I often represent the minority view. I have no problem with five or even ten to one odds, but when the person given power to controll posts censors the minority view..... Now its going wrong

When the person with the power censors a post pointing out his own rediculous statemtent........ Power crazy wogg

You know the old line...

Power corrupts, well this is a good example. It only took a few weeks before Keith, started acting like a North Korean dictator...

This was back in May...

I did not make a big deal about this, as in reality no one would take my side. Folks who think voter supression and gerrymandering are fair ways to win, will have no problm with cenoring the minority view.



But I must stand on principle.

****You can't have a debate when one side censors the other****

First they came for the sarcasm.. Fuck them all .
Jim I am concerned that you have become overly sensitive , perhaps you need to come back for more training.

Bob
 

Ian Anderson

Lifetime Supporter
Jim
More important is how are you and your car getting on?
How many miles now?

Enjoy the event in your part of he world and post about it.

Much more important than polarised politics.

Ian
 
This entire thread is example enough, of why I no longer participate.

When both sides are fucked up, there's no hope and no middle.
 

Jim Rosenthal

Supporter
I think the Paddock should be restricted to dirty jokes, photos of naked women, and occasional car stories. We've all proved that minds don't get changed in the Paddock.

Not even underwear gets changed in the Paddock.
 

Keith

Moderator
I think the Paddock should be restricted to dirty jokes, photos of naked women, and occasional car stories. We've all proved that minds don't get changed in the Paddock.

Not even underwear gets changed in the Paddock.
+1.....
 

Howard Jones

Supporter
I was under the understanding that the paddock was a free fire zone and as thus without rules so as to draw all the non car related stuff out of the other threads. This seams to have worked very well so far! Why would it be any other way? I can take it and so can my commie friend Jim. After all the 1st amendment is just as important as the second!

I vote for NO rules except restricting anything illegal such as child porn, attempts at fraud or really hard core porn. Theirs plenty of porn elsewhere and we should hang the child porn types anyway.

Let the long knifes fly! Say what you will! But be nice doing it! You know.................like adults.
 

Keith

Moderator
I was under the understanding that the paddock was a free fire zone and as thus without rules so as to draw all the non car related stuff out of the other threads. This seams to have worked very well so far! Why would it be any other way? I can take it and so can my commie friend Jim. After all the 1st amendment is just as important as the second!

I vote for NO rules except restricting anything illegal such as child porn, attempts at fraud or really hard core porn. Theirs plenty of porn elsewhere and we should hang the child porn types anyway.

Let the long knifes fly! Say what you will! But be nice doing it! You know.................like adults.
I tend to agree as well, but it has to be born in mind that the Paddock is wedded to the main GT40s site, which most would agree, is a fantastic resource for the world of automotive tinkering, not just '40's, therefore, there should necessarily be some self restraint else Ron might start losing some of the commercial support he has. People can become quite funny about the association. Yes, I know you don't have to read it, you don't have to look etc, but that's not human nature is it.

The personal stuff can go - there's no need, and many of us, me included, have fallen into that trap. I don't intend for it to happen again.
 
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