Is the right to bear arms outdated.

Ian Anderson

Lifetime Supporter
The question is: During a Home Invasion, would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses or 1 horse sized duck?

Discuss.

Dopey
It is Dukw and they are a load bigger than a horse

You been smoking something special again? :)

Anyway with the floods it would make an ideal vehicle to go and visit David

Ian
 
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Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
During a Home Invasion, would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses...?

You're making a darned good argument in favor of owning "assault weapons" with large capacity magazines, there, Keith! Watch it! :evilgrin:

(I am truly a rotten person...)
 
'Better question: Is there anyone who'll admit it. ;)

A very good friend of mine was restoring a derelict property in the middle of nowhere and was reporting to he police on a daily basis that there were thieves entering the property at night and stealing roof tiles etc. This went on for quite some time and the police never even bothered to call back and make a report. It reached fever pitch when a neighbour phoned him to report another intruder on his property, he phoned the police to tell them that he lived 20 minutes away and the police station was less than ten minutes so it would be in their interests to be there before him because he was going to shoot them. Guess who got there first.

Bob
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
That reminds me of a similar "cavalry-can't-get-there-'til-it's-too-late" story which is supposedly true:

'Simitar deal (condensed version): guy lives out in the boondocks...'sees thieves breaking into his tool shed in the middle of the night...'calls 9-1-1...'is told the sheriff's deputies can't get there for at least another hour...guy hangs up...calls 9-1-1 back 2 mins later...'tells operator deputies needn't hurry now because he's SHOT both perps...3 sheriffs and an ambulance show up minutes later just as the perps were getting into their truck to drive away with their loot. 'Angry deputies confront the property owner saying, "You told 9-1-1 you had shot these two guys!!!"...'guy replies, "Yep, 'sure did...and 9-1-1 told ME you people couldn't get here for at least another hour".
 
In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's cafeteria.
In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.
As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.
One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.
No NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservatives were involved.
SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
So Al has finally come around and now he is for making it illegal to own guns.

As for the rest of the post, just like everything Al posts it's full of bullshit.

The very first line says this......

"In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States".

He did such a bad job that Booth had to kill him again in 1865.

Reagan was shot in 1981, NOT 1983!

Al you said this.......

"In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech".

Al, I seem to remember that this guy was not even a US citizen.

I'm willing to bet that much of the rest is bullshit as well.

But I'm with you on making guns illegal.
 
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Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Propaganda:

Is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of the community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented.
 
So, two dates were wrong but you still think Democrats shouldn't be allowed to have guns? Are you always this angry? Slow down, you're going to have the Big one. This is a discussion not war.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Al,

This is not a discussion, this is you posting propaganda.

I will not stand for someone who obviously has little understanding of the importance of history, try and corrupt it for short term political gain.

Say Al.....not only was Seung - Hui Cho not a Democrat, he was not even a US citizen.

John Wilkes Booth was a member of the aptly named "Know nothing Party".

Lets play "Who can find Al's lies"...........there will be prizes!

I found four without opening Google.................anyone else?
 
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Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
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Al,

This is not a discussion, this is you posting propaganda.

I will not stand for someone who obviously has little understanding of the importance of history, try and corrupt it for short term political gain.

Say Al.....not only was Seung - Hui Cho not a Democrat, he was not even a US citizen.

John Wilkes Booth was a member of the aptly named "Know nothing Party".

Lets play "Who can find Al's lies"...........there will be prizes!

I found four without opening Google.................anyone else?


:zzz::zzz::zzz: :dead: :argue:
 
Al between 1986 and 1990 you have 25 people killed by a democrat , what about the other 60,000 + that were killed in this period? Were they also killed by democrats?

Bob
 

Keith

Moderator
Propaganda:

Is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of the community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented.


It's not propaganda Jim, as I do not believe that anyone with half a brain would be influenced by that stuff, well, only the weak minded anyway. What it is, is a bored Al provoking a reaction from you, or maybe Doug..

And it worked..again.

Silly really.

I like Bob's response. It kind of reminds me of the mantra "20% of all road deaths annually are caused by drunk drivers". Which means of course, that 80% of all road deaths are caused by sober drivers.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
It's not propaganda Jim, as I do not believe that anyone with half a brain would be influenced by that stuff, well, only the weak minded anyway. What it is, is a bored Al provoking a reaction from you, or maybe Doug..

Keith,

I think you have greatly underestimated the ability of consevatives to believe almost anything. This type of absurd statement is part and parcil of the consevative entertainment complex. They present bullshit like this almost daily and millions of gullible people actually do believe it.

In fact, I'm willing to bet that Al did not write this, I bet he cut and pasted it from some right wing "NEWS" source!

Additionally, I'm willing to bet that not only did Al not write this, I bet he believed every word!
 
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Keith

Moderator
Additionally, I'm willing to bet that not only did Al not write this, I bet he believed every word!



Al is having a laugh for sure, and that was the point in the first place...

Best not hand him any more ammunition - save it for a serious debate :)
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Keith,

I think that Larry's post shows the massive problem we have here in the US with the consevative entertainment complex.

Larry has absolutly no problem with Al posting absurd lies because they present things the way Larry would like them to be or actually believes them to be.

But my pointing out that they are not true, that he has a problem with!
 
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