More Global Cooling/Warming/Change hoax.

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Robert May Eng.

Pete said:
And of course the I.P.C.C.:laugh: My fault I should have been more specific,
Does anyone on this forum still believe in man made global warming?
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I still have the jury out on this, I dont think you can pump the amount of crap we do into the atmosphere without changing things. I also dont think deforestation helps and if its all added up there may be something in it. On the same token it amounts to zero in comparison to anything nature itself can throw at the planet with volcanic and axis wobble. Then we have the meteor strikes!!
All makes us look a bit insignificant really.If you were to ask if pollution was fucking things up the answer would be yes. Allowing the seas to become a toxic sewer for financial gain and trawling the fish out of it to eat does not really cut it. Anyway its the yanks fault. :)

Bob
 
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Keith

Moderator
The recent flooding in the UK which will soon be a distant memory, has refired the 'global warming' debate (debacle?). For a long while, this was thankfully displaced by the more accurate term 'climate change' but now, the 'warming' has got new legs.

Here we go again.... :sad:
 
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Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
Pete said:
And of course the I.P.C.C.:laugh: My fault I should have been more specific,
Does anyone on this forum still believe in man made global warming?
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I believe in the man-accelerated, if not man induced, climate change. If the effects of greenhouse gasses is well understood and accurate (which the scientest know better than I), how then could one think the large increase in the percentage of these gasses (in a short amount of time) have no effect whatsoever? I don't dissagree that there are other factors as well, but to negate something you don't agreement with simply because it impacts one's financial security seems a little narrow sighted, isn't it?

Not looking at all the pieces reminds me of statements from folks that live in the northern hemisphere that winter is cooler than summer because we are further from the sun at that time :shocked: when it is the period in which we are closest.
 
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Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
gtbob said:
Allowing the seas to become a toxic sewer for financial gain and trawling the fish out of it to eat does not really cut it. :)
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Now, things like THAT I fully agree with...but, all the this goofy "global warming"/"man made climate change"/taxing-and-bigger-govt-will-solve/correct-all-the-"problems" hokus pokus is a total F-R-A-U-D...just like much of the data used to "prove" global warming is happening. ESPECIALLY the "cap and trade" idiocy! How, in effect, BUYING permission to emit "X" amount of carbon changes anything is totally beyond me. That's like saying the "gas guzzler" tax reduces a particular car's fuel consumption when all it actually does is shift $$$ from our back pockets into govt's.

No matter WHAT Mother Nature throws at us at any given time these days, it's used by enviornmental kooks as evidence of "global warming"/"climate change". 'Too hot = global warming. 'Too COLD = global warming. 'Flat tire (tyre) = global warming. NO MATTER WHAT MAY BE HAPPENING - it's proof of global warming. That's the beauty of the "global warmer's" argument. EVERYTHING is proof of global warming. The fact that records show global temps haven't increased over the last 17 years means nothing to those people.

I'll ask again what I've asked repeatedly over the past couple decades: What happened to the new ICE AGE "scientists" said we were entering back in the 1970s??? Where did THAT go? Or were scientists as wrong back then as they are now? OR MAYBE - did the Earth correct the 'problem' itself just as it has since the day it was created?

It stands to reason that variations in the tilt of the Earth's axis and massive solar flares have far more to do with global temps than man. 'Anyone care to divulge what MAN can do about those?

'Dunn' now...
 
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Mark

I am firmly in Larry's camp. Sorry Larry.

There is a lot of money to be made and much Political Kudos to be had, from supporting the idea of man made global warming.

Exactly the opposite, if you refute the idea.
 
Pete

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
I also agree with Larry, also with Isaac about denuding forests and turning the oceans into sewers. One thing that has always annoyed me is the warmists trying to tar climate change deniers as polluters.
I'm all for stopping pollution, but CO2 is not a pollutant, without it we would cease to exist.
 
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Brian Stewart
Supporter
I'm with the vast majority of climate scientists on this one. But as I have said before, I think the whole thing has been handled very, very poorly. It has been politicised to the point of farce and has become really big business. The media have a lot to answer for as well, by reporting half arsed stories without checking sources properly or doing due research. I do not believe taxing and legislating is the way to combat change. I suspect all of that is a case of governments wanting to be seen to be doing something, but not really knowing what. Most of it amounts to band-aid fixes. Development of new technologies and education will eventually win out (I hope) but there has been, and will be, a lot of unnecessary carnage along the way.
 
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Keith

Moderator
That's it Brian. The whole thing has been so screwed that no-one really believes anyone. It's the worst possible outcome and instead of action, we get cynicism.

In the meantime, we are getting closer the sun.


Aaaaargh! My brains are boiling! Do something to reverse this quickly like sell your Land Rover...

Now....

Aaaargh.......
 
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Mark

brianstewart said:
I'm with the vast majority of climate scientists on this one. But as I have said before, I think the whole thing has been handled very, very poorly. It has been politicised to the point of farce and has become really big business. The media have a lot to answer for as well, by reporting half arsed stories without checking sources properly or doing due research. I do not believe taxing and legislating is the way to combat change. I suspect all of that is a case of governments wanting to be seen to be doing something, but not really knowing what. Most of it amounts to band-aid fixes. Development of new technologies and education will eventually win out (I hope) but there has been, and will be, a lot of unnecessary carnage along the way.
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good points. Look at California's de-salinization plans to combat water shortage and how that worked out really well for our Australian friends! All great ways to earn a few billion from the tax-payer!

Set up a company, con a gullible Politician, build a plant, and as Steve Miller once said, "woo hoo, take the money and run".
 
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Al Jones

The recent surge of storms and cold air into the southeast US should remind us that changing weather patterns happen on a cyclical basis. As I understand it, this pattern was in Europe last year. These patterns might stick around, unfortunately, for some time. Here in New Engand, this is reminiscent of winters long ago and I don't hear anyone currently connecting those past winters to any sort of global warming issue. Anyway, You guys in the South (US) can take a hint from the attached photo I took a couple days ago and get serious about your snow removal equipment.
 

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Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
Thank goodness. Then an abnormal year makes up for all the other changes indicating the opposite. How convenient!

From the same cherry-picked article:

However, scientists have cautioned that while Arctic sea ice coverage expanded this year, one year is not enough to say the global warming has stopped.
“Although the recovery of Arctic sea ice is certainly welcome news, it has to be considered against the backdrop of changes that have occurred over the last few decades,” Andy Shepherd of Universit College in London told BBC News.
“It’s estimated that there were around 20,000 cu km of Arctic sea ice each October in the early 1980s, and so today’s minimum still ranks among the lowest of the past 30 years,” Shepard added.


Read more: Satellite data shows Arctic sea ice coverage up 50 percent | The Daily Caller
 
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