Buffett's Birkshire Hathaway owes One Billion in taxes

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Jim Craik

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Remember he even prefaced the whole thing by saying, "I know I'll probably take flak for this, but........"
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Yes I knew I would take flak from you, who would never understand a fairly simple concept, and would take what I said out of context.

OK Bob, two questions:

What did I say that was not true?

Why do you think this particular group has statisticly not been as sucessfull as others?
 
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Yes I knew I would take flak from you, who would never understand a fairly simple concept, and would take what I said out of context.

OK Bob, two questions:

What did I say that was not true?

Why do you think this particular group has statisticly not been as sucessfull as others?

Stop condemning people to categories. There will always be people of every race who don't rise above their milieu. But more importantly there are people of all races who accomplish more than is expected of them because they ignore the labels they are given and are lucky enough to live in the United States.
 

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Thats funny, you are the lable king, you lump all liberals together daily!

I'll ask again: WHAT DID I SAY THAT WAS NOT TRUE!
 
Thats funny, you are the lable king, you lump all liberals together daily!

I'll ask again: WHAT DID I SAY THAT WAS NOT TRUE!

I'm not going to play word games with you.

I dare you to tell your theory to an African American. Not some liberal buddy, but someone you don't know, and see what that gets you.
 

Jim Craik

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Word Games!

You condemn what I said, either tell us WHAT I SAID THAT WAS NOT TRUE or shut the fuck up!

Just because you do not like somthing does not mean its not true.

Come on big talker, you condemed what I said, was it untrue?
 
"This may get me in trouble..... but there is one exception, one group missed out on the natural selection, folks who were brough here as slaves. Choice was not involved, actually we got the ones who got caught. This could help to explain why one group has a harder time being sucessful."

You really want to stand behind this statement? Do you really want to say that this "gene pool" is inferior? That they can't succeed because their ancestors "got caught?"
Of course that is untrue!

And again tell that to an African American that you don't know. Or you should shut up. Don't make me tell what's true ask the people you're typecasting in a most derogatory manner.
 

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Just as I thought, you do not answer either question, why.....because you cant! Shut the fuck up!

Just because you do not like somthing does not mean its untrue!
 
Just as I thought, you do not answere either question, why.....because you cant! Shut the fuck up!

Just because you do not like somthing does not mean its untrue!

What more can I say. The section I quoted above is not true. If the Dodgers beat the Giants (unlikely I know) does that make the citizens of San Francisco lazy?

Just ask an African American what he thinks about your theory. Seriously, its not for me to decide. Let the people you know so much about decide the veracity of your claim.

But then, I don't think you have the balls to do that, do you.
 
Last week a link was posted regarding IBM's offer to the White House to help reduce fraud in Medicare and Medicaid. IBM calculated the savings at $900B (presumably over 10 years), and the White House said "No Thanks".

Can you point me to that link? I can't find it (I tried searching the site and look looking at news.google.com).
 
Can you point me to that link? I can't find it (I tried searching the site and look looking at news.google.com).

Not the statement from IBM, but an even more damning article which includes a host of other companies.

Global CIO: IBM & Dell Get In Obama's Face With $1-Trillion Challenge - Global-cio - Executive insights/interviews - Informationweek

Health care fraud: IBM made $900B offer to Obama & White House - Define free - National Political Transcripts | Examiner.com

And here are host of other ideas:
Tech CEOs Offer Deficit-Busting Ideas | Blogs | ITBusinessEdge.com
 
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Question for you entrepreneurs out there.

When companies claim X% total taxes paid, how easy is it, whether by accident or not, to include the taxes withheld from employee paychecks? If an employer makes a statement that his company pays, say 45% in taxes, what in reality does it actually include?

Also - I've noticed that whenever the comparison comes up between the high wage earners and the middle class, they include a payroll tax in the high wage tax total, presumable since they have people working for them. Middle class blue collar workers don't pay a payroll tax. They aren't making an honest comparison. In other words, part of that high wage tax total they continually publish appears to include employer type taxes, not just personal taxes. The 29.1% tax for millionaires includes the payroll tax. My tax rate is in the 20's and I'm not paying a payroll tax. So what's the true comparison here?
 
Question for you entrepreneurs out there.

When companies claim X% total taxes paid, how easy is it, whether by accident or not, to include the taxes withheld from employee paychecks? If an employer makes a statement that his company pays, say 45% in taxes, what in reality does it actually include?

Also - I've noticed that whenever the comparison comes up between the high wage earners and the middle class, they include a payroll tax in the high wage tax total, presumable since they have people working for them. Middle class blue collar workers don't pay a payroll tax. They aren't making an honest comparison. In other words, part of that high wage tax total they continually publish appears to include employer type taxes, not just personal taxes. The 29.1% tax for millionaires includes the payroll tax. My tax rate is in the 20's and I'm not paying a payroll tax. So what's the true comparison here?

Yet another reason to reform the tax code. No one really knows anything unless they can afford Buffett caliber lawyers.
 
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