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Pat

Supporter
The black guy?

Yep, and the white guy he's carrying and all the guys they are working with. Heck, even the guys flying the MEDVAC they are boarding.

The other white guy that is just standing around no doubt pondering the unemployment rate for veterans who have served since 9/11 which stands at 10 percent, with 246,000 out of work.
 

Steve

Supporter
I guess it's something that will be debated for many years to come. Nature does throw up some oddities though, a couple I know (black guy white girl) gave birth to a totally white baby, which was perfectly fine until some 5 years later, he steadily and inexorably turned completely black! Some members of the family even claiming that the kid had been swapped out at some stage.



Same thing occurred on this side of the pond with Michael Jackson, conversely of course.
 
During the 3-1/2 years of World War 2 that started with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and ended with the Surrender of Germany and Japan in 1945, the U.S. produced 22 aircraft carriers, 8 battleships, 48 cruisers, 349 destroyers, 420 destroyer escorts, 203 submarines, 34 million tons of merchant ships, 100,000 fighter aircraft, 98,000 bombers, 24,000 transport aircraft, 58,000 training aircraft, 93,000 tanks, 257,000 artillery pieces, 105,000 mortars, 3,000,000 machine guns, and 2,500,000 military trucks.
We put 16.1 million men in uniform in the various armed services, invaded Africa, invaded Sicily and Italy, won the battle for the Atlantic, planned and executed D-Day, marched across the Pacific and Europe, developed the atomic bomb and ultimately conquered Japan and Germany.
It's worth noting, that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a functioning web site.

Also thought this poignant:
Bridge firm hits back at delay claims | Evesham Observer

It seems as though these days, no one can even build a simple bridge across a relatively small river, on time!

For anyone bothered enough to actually read this article concerning my home town, note of special interest, how the report claims our town will be,

"In 2015 Evesham will be at the centre of world attention as the 750th anniversary of the Battle of Evesham will be celebrated. This battle was central to the creation of parliamentary democracy in England. The eyes of parliamentarians from Britain, the British Commonwealth and democracies in Europe and around the world will be on Evesham"

HAHAHA whatever dude! Eyes of the world, really! The only eyes on Evesham, will likely be GCHQ, checking where we shop online and who we speak to on the telephone.
 
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Yes Al,

When Americans all work together we can do incredable things.........

Today we can see what happens when Americans to not work together, when one side for short term political gain, refuses to to do anything, from passing Judicial appointments to passing a budget.

So Al, when President Roosevelt was doing all those great things, did the Republicals....

Scream about the debt?

Refuse to pass a budget?

Refuse to extend the debt ceiling?

Refuse to confirm appointments?

Refuse any Compromise?

Yes Al you have really pointed out the problem, when Americans work together we can do great things..................

You Conservatives should learn from Al's example, but I'm guessing you won't.

Obamacare was thought up and voted in by a Democrat congress and senate who said we could find out what was in the bill after it was signed into law. Republicans were not asked to participate in any way. The web site was made by CGI Federal a Canadian firm, I guess we don't have competent people in the US. The Republicans had nothing to do with the making of or rolling out of Obamacare, yet they are somehow to blame for the problems so far. Are the Democrats able to accept responsibility for anything they do? If the rollout had been 100% successful would the Republicans have gotten any of the credit? None of what you said has anything to do with Obamacare. Obamacare is the democrats, own it.
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
Obamacare was thought up and voted in by a Democrat congress and senate who said we could find out what was in the bill after it was signed into law. Republicans were not asked to participate in any way. The web site was made by CGI Federal a Canadian firm, I guess we don't have competent people in the US. The Republicans had nothing to do with the making of or rolling out of Obamacare, yet they are somehow to blame for the problems so far. Are the Democrats able to accept responsibility for anything they do? If the rollout had been 100% successful would the Republicans have gotten any of the credit? None of what you said has anything to do with Obamacare. Obamacare is the democrats, own it.

Maybe if the contract had been let to an American firm rather than to the lowest bidder the web site would have worked? But then the Republicans would have complained about Obama wasting money. Hard to please everybody ain't it?
 
EXACTLY!!! EVEN FOREIGNERS GET IT! But, libs over here evidently don't. They get ALL bent out of shape if someone points out the President is molato - which he factually is...IOW, one white parent and one black. They'll tell ya that's a "RACIST!!!" and "outdated" term harking back to the days of slavery and it is therefore "BIGOTTED" and "OFFENSIVE" and blah, blah, and more blah. To hear them carry on you'd think there was something SHAMEFUL about being '1/2 and 1/2' anything. I just don't get it. What sane person does?

Remember, "P.C." above all else is at all times the watchword over here. "P.C." all the time about EVERY thing all day long.

Obviously I'm not a subscriber to, nor an advocate OF that particular song and dance.

No doubt... I've always wondered why guys like jim insist on calling Obama our first black president when in fact it was Obamas ability to sound like a rational white guy that played a HUGE roll in him winning the presidency.
Now I'm not sure about you guys but my life observations have show some audible differences between blacks and whites..I'm not saying one way of speaking is better then the other but I do usually hear a difference....Bottom line I think Obama realized long ago that he would never be able to win the vote of the simple minded racist if he came off sounding like Al Sharpton.
 
No doubt... I've always wondered why guys like jim insist on calling Obama our first black president when in fact it was Obamas ability to sound like a rational white guy that played a HUGE roll in him winning the presidency.
Now I'm not sure about you guys but my life observations have show some audible differences between blacks and whites..I'm not saying one way of speaking is better then the other but I do usually hear a difference....Bottom line I think Obama realized long ago that he would never be able to win the vote of the simple minded racist if he came off sounding like Al Sharpton.

Half of him is a white guy, don't know about rational, but somehow he's a totally black guy. Like I said before, if the presidents prior to Obama were black, would he be our first white president?
 

Keith

Moderator
Half of him is a white guy, don't know about rational, but somehow he's a totally black guy. Like I said before, if the presidents prior to Obama were black, would he be our first white president?

Hahaha.. right on the money,

But my guess would be NO.
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
Maybe if the contract had been let to an American firm rather than to the lowest bidder the web site would have worked?

A number of tech-types who have been on various news shows here in the U.S. have opined that the Obamacare site could have easily been created for about $5 million - tops. What did the Obama admin pay originally? 'Word is north of $600 million...and that doesn't include God-only-knows how much in "upgrades" to this point...by the same outfit that created the site. Some reports (like the one below) say these "upgrades" have run north of another $400 million. WHY are the "upgrades" costing us anything? The site we paid 'thru the nose' for didn't work!!! I've not seen or heard anyone ask that question...other than my own darned self. Why? (Incidently, an exec at said outfit has ties to Michelle Obama. Coincidence?)

Obamacare Website Company Had Ties to Obama Fundraising, Michelle Obama


But then the Republicans would have complained about Obama wasting money.

Speculation. But the GOP (and anybody/everybody ELSE) darned sure has the right to scream about the cost of the current idiocy regardless...wouldn't you say?


Edit: Oh, and one more thing. Pres. Obama on a number of occasions has said all he thinks about from the time he gets up 'til the last thing before bed is jobs, jobs, jobs. I assume he meant U.S. JOBS? If so - why did his admin award a no bid contract to a Canadian company - ESPECIALLY a contract this HUGE???????????

(I'm sure we'll be seeing a graph [or two] that explains all this...)
 
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marc

Lifetime Supporter
At least it wasn't made in China, Russia, or Eygpt. Give the O's some credit for a North American purchase. Remember those multi million dollar Canadian Buses for the 2nd term election.

Yes Sarcastic, I couldn't help it.
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
A number of tech-types who have been on various news shows here in the U.S. have opined that the Obamacare site could have easily been created for about $5 million - tops. What did the Obama admin pay originally? 'Word is north of $600 million...and that doesn't include God-only-knows how much in "upgrades" to this point...by the same outfit that created the site. Some reports (like the one below) say these "upgrades" have run north of another $400 million. WHY are the "upgrades" costing us anything? The site we paid 'thru the nose' for didn't work!!! I've not seen or heard anyone ask that question...other than my own darned self. Why?


Well, finally there's been a reaction. 'Sure has taken long enough. But, I haven't seen any reports of the fed govt doing the same. Again - why is that?

States retaliate against ObamaCare website developers, halt payments | Fox News
 
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A number of tech-types who have been on various news shows here in the U.S. have opined that the Obamacare site could have easily been created for about $5 million - tops. What did the Obama admin pay originally? 'Word is north of $600 million...and that doesn't include God-only-knows how much in "upgrades" to this point...by the same outfit that created the site. Some reports (like the one below) say these "upgrades" have run north of another $400 million. WHY are the "upgrades" costing us anything? The site we paid 'thru the nose' for didn't work!!! I've not seen or heard anyone ask that question...other than my own darned self. Why? (Incidently, an exec at said outfit has ties to Michelle Obama. Coincidence?)

You are all amateurs your side of the pond. If you want to fuck money away on a grand scale sent your politicians over here for a weeks tuition with our NHS ( health service)

Bob

NHS pulls the plug on its £11bn IT system - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent
 

Keith

Moderator
Bob, be very wary of the media playing politics. Fortunately 'only' £2.7 billion has been spent so far and another £4.5 billion in contracts whilst the balance of the sum quoted is 'expected' to be paid out (with no detail of course).

What is certain, is that they (the NHS regions) are now to go with proprietary software of their own choice (as I predicted several posts back).

One can only hope they talk to each other and choose proprietary systems that actually, er, talk to each other. :)
 
Bob, be very wary of the media playing politics. Fortunately 'only' £2.7 billion has been spent so far and another £4.5 billion in contracts whilst the balance of the sum quoted is 'expected' to be paid out (with no detail of course).

What is certain, is that they (the NHS regions) are now to go with proprietary software of their own choice (as I predicted several posts back).

One can only hope they talk to each other and choose proprietary systems that actually, er, talk to each other. :)

Nevertheless Colonel its good to show those cheapskate yanks how to blow money properly and that they dont do everything bigger or better:worried:

Bob
 
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