F1 in 2017

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
Really nice idea Terry but i think it's a tad complex for the Paddock. To simplify it, you need to include a gun review, a racist rant (mention of a Wall will bring bonus points) and an uberliberal LGBT dissertation. Only then will F1 become not only global but soft & squidgy...

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Doc Watson

Lifetime Supporter
What about this....

Deadline for prediction to be 1 week before 1st GP

1) Drivers championship 1-2-3
2) Constructors championship 1-2-3

At the end of the GP season (and each race?) you can calculate your 'rank' by adding up your driver and constructor choices points.
 
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Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
Really nice idea Terry but i think it's a tad complex for the Paddock. To simplify it, you need to include a gun review, a racist rant (mention of a Wall will bring bonus points) and an uberliberal LGBT dissertation. Only then will F1 become not only global but soft & squidgy...

Oh, and Brexit!!!!
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
Just wanted to share my good fortune and a recently received issue of Car Porn Weekly. I decided to go all out and enjoy the centerfold, in the next best car ever made, while simultaneously enjoying an adult carbonated alcoholic beverage (the "Turkey" as they call it in bowling). Thanks again to Frank for going the long route to support my enjoyment for the finer things in life.

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Keith

Moderator
Day two of F1 pre-season testing and Ferrari emerge top dogs. Oh, and McLaren Honda broke down again, again.

That's 2 engines in 2 days already. Honestly, don't they run these things on dynos before they bung 'em in the back?

This wouldn't have happened in Ron's day. Oh, wait.... :uneasy:

Any comments on the new look? (Apart from the sharks fin which looks REALLY pants.) :veryangry:
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
Frank is helping with the language barrier (Pants?), but I like the new look. For me, they are starting to look like race cars again.
 

Keith

Moderator
Frank is helping with the language barrier (Pants?), but I like the new look. For me, they are starting to look like race cars again.

Sorry Terry, pants as in male underwear, not as in the US useage aka 'trousers'. In the U.K., the descriptive 'pants' is not the highest accolade you could wish for..

It's actually a 90's thing so I'm showing my age. On YouTube today, they would just say shit, I guess...:shrug:
 
I see that they have come perilously close to the aim of being 5 seconds quicker than last season overnight with Bottas only a few tenths off on the super softs.<?xml:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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Keith

Moderator
Silly rumour time: McLaren already looking for a new PU supplier THIS SEASON!

Can't see it happening though but Honda have really screwed this one up. The tech seems beyond them. Look what Toyota have managed with their road hybrids and Le Mans winning race cars in half the time!

It doesn't quite make up for the almost $billion they wasted in F1 but it comes close...
 
Things, so far, have not been so kind to the young Lance Stroll. Is he the next Pastor? brings a HUGE shed load of money to the show but can he drive?
 

Keith

Moderator
He's shown some flashes of real speed actually, but of course has binned it twice with quite serious consequences for the team in loss of testing mileage. It's also shown up Williams dubious testing strategy in that they clearly didn't perform an adequate risk assessment which resulted in them not bring enough spares, AND putting a rookie into a brand new concept with no bench mark. I would have rung the car out with Massa and/or experienced test driver and then put Stroll in for the 2nd week when the team had more understanding of the car's behaviour.

It's probably very unfair to judge him at this time and with zero experience at this level and a brand new car concept, what on earth did Williams expect?
 

Keith

Moderator
Looks as if F1 is a dead duck here on GT40's. No posts since March 2nd and that was me. I'm a one man F1 army :drunk: It's a shame but we seem to have followed the general trend of shrinking global interest since the new PU's were introduced, but having listened to the 2017 versions, they sound pretty good to be fair. However, if sound (or lack thereof) is the clincher between being you engaged with motorsport or not, I would opine that you ain't much of a motorsport fan.

I'll put that solidly down to the "if it ain't got an ear bleeding n/a V8/10/12 in it, it ain't a real race car" etc etc & so forth brigade.

Anyways, the season opener was pretty good and the cars look and sound awesome. As usual because of the time lags I will refrain from 'spoiling' this early but lets just say that the race outcome was not as predictable as pre-season negativity would have it..
 
Even with my faded interest in F1, the new ownership fills me with dread for its future.
Cars look a bit better, sound sort of like the old days of flat plane V8s with valve springs... sort of... if you squint your ears.
Glad Bernie is gone but I'd take him over Kentucky Fried F1. Hopefully Ross Brawn can keep some elegance and integrity in the sport... if there's any left.
Today's race was ok, Hamilton losing was a bright point.
Stupidly rich guys buying their kids drives - no surprise there.
Nice to see Mclarens in orange again.
Is it just me or does that guy from Force India look like Tom Walkinshaw?
That's all the opinion I have for now as far as F1 goes.
Go Bottas! You don't have to win, just beat that kanye kardashian clone.

Tim.
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
2X on Tim's comments (orange needs to be more orange and less red :) ). I don't have any heartburn seeing Lewis win/loose, but it did torment me a bit when he was held up just enough to allow the red car to get out ahead of him. That's racing, and that's what made the race interesting to watch.

Glad to see fat tyres (? or is it tires?) on these cars again. Not sure of the pink livery though. Looking for pork cuts, but didn't see any. I guess the boss figured he'ed embarrass the drivers into showing that they can pull off the pink thing by actually winning.

Next on my to-do list to today is find out what the T-wing, (or loop antenna on the top of the vertical plane) or whatever it's called, is supposed to accomplish.

Terry
 

Keith

Moderator
Yes it's 'tyres' Terry. Heartwarming to see an American using the correct spelling despite what the damned spellchecker says.:drunk:

I would have thought that the 'T' wing is for transmission/reception of data i.e. the myriads of sensor info and 'instructions' to the PU..
 
The day F1 becomes a sport again , with focus on sport and not the financial impact,as they now do by creating a race for tv spectators/audience. i will watch again.

give me a race where as the driver decides how to run his race, his fuel consumption and his tyre replacements and no radio communication , only trough pit wall,and yes i will watch again.

make a race for racer, and people will come again to the circuits, create some complicity withe the spectators and f1 can go on for another 100 years.


Its in the other world, off rallying that David Richards killed the wrc, by organizing the events for the tv audience (no night stages etc concentrated filmed service parcs etc) instead to organize a competition for drivers and the sport.
and wit all these tv broadcasting, the small mysterious world , where people spectators could fill in themselves with their imagination the missing information, disappeared, and the mysterious of the motor sport is now just become an ordinary entertainment which is honestly very boring.not to speak about the journalists (or what they supposed to be) giving rubbish comments.
Paul
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
One thing I found to be a pleasant surprise at Melbourne, was the spectator movement onto the track while the cars were on their warm-down lap. I really love that, and understand the liability issues with that, but being on the track when one of these cars goes by, even at low speed is almost worth the ticket in itself. I hope this is a trend, and that some special idiot does not ruin it for the rest of us.
 

Keith

Moderator
Terry, that is seriously not a good idea! I don't know whether or not you have raced so please forgive me if this sounds a little patronising, it's certainly not meant to be, but during a race you get into a mind set and if it's somewhat processional, then to a degree you race on 'auto-pilot'. I'm pretty sure that even F1 drivers have to be 'woken-up' to attempt an overtake because of this. Evidence of this is plentiful where a car slows down or does a 'stoppy' at the checker, to be rammed from behind at high speed by a following driver who simply did not expect such a manoevre and couldn't react in time, and to be faced with a slow moving unpredictable pedestrian when you have just recently crossed the same patch of ground at up to 200 mph is just a disaster waiting to happen...

Racing cars and pedestrians should never occupy the same piece of tarmac simultaneously...
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
Understandable. What little bit I saw, it appeared the pedestrians were well behaved, and the cars were running pretty slow. If the drivers are not aware this activity is planned (which appears to be the case in Melbourne), I fully understand the cautionary nature, especially if deviating from a long-standing practice.
 

Malcolm

Supporter
You need to watch Death Race 2000. Always thought Euthanasia Day at the old folks home was amusing but now my Dad is that age so having to correct my humour!
 
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