No Apologies for THIS....
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David Morton
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Amazing Keith. Morton was indeed a viking name and the origin was Mortonsen - son of and as far as I could go back it was in an area called Skydstrup.
Shetland, East coast Scotland, and also York ( Yorik) were the chosen places and so my father was from Perth. He was also a Stewart (A clan no less) and it was the Mortons who betrayed Mary - Queen of Scots to Queen Elizabeth the Virgin or QE1 - the First. I believe we actually have a tartan and I am spending a week in Glasgow for intensive training at the National Piping Centre and I hope to join or qualify as an intermediate.
It's actually a week on the piss with the guy who was my Best Man and we should get a total of five nights under our belts.
It's a malt whiskey Islay / Jura week for us though the Islay malt whisky week festival was back in May and we are just continuing it.
Shetland, East coast Scotland, and also York ( Yorik) were the chosen places and so my father was from Perth. He was also a Stewart (A clan no less) and it was the Mortons who betrayed Mary - Queen of Scots to Queen Elizabeth the Virgin or QE1 - the First. I believe we actually have a tartan and I am spending a week in Glasgow for intensive training at the National Piping Centre and I hope to join or qualify as an intermediate.
It's actually a week on the piss with the guy who was my Best Man and we should get a total of five nights under our belts.
It's a malt whiskey Islay / Jura week for us though the Islay malt whisky week festival was back in May and we are just continuing it.
David Morton
Lifetime Supporter
mean anything?
If I said Snoldelev runestone would it help?
David Morton
Lifetime Supporter
ps - its in the National Danish Museum in Kobenhavn
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David Morton
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So many Viking burial sites on that hallowed Island. Wherever you stand, you are probably standing on a Vikings grave.
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
A great history lesson Keith, I am of Irish descent and you are right the English are bastards! Of course with a few exceptions yourself David and Mark among them.
Now something that wasn't covered in your lesson, was it the Vikings, the Saxons, or the Normans who invented cricket? I know it wasn't the Scots they invented golf and the Irish were always to drunk to invent anything.
Now something that wasn't covered in your lesson, was it the Vikings, the Saxons, or the Normans who invented cricket? I know it wasn't the Scots they invented golf and the Irish were always to drunk to invent anything.
David Morton
Lifetime Supporter
Óðinn, the main man and at the time the ruler of Asgard , along with Thor and Freyr are part of the trilogy.
Look at the traditions and place names in the Shetlands. They are nearer to
Norway than Scotland. They even look very similar.
Look at the traditions and place names in the Shetlands. They are nearer to
Norway than Scotland. They even look very similar.
Yeh. Irish have always been bastards....they didn't invent Guinness either. Arthur was an ENGLISHMAN. One of his geezers burnt the hops and they brewed it anyway and the Irish typically loved it as their staple diet was bog Pete - sorry bog peat Pete. In fact, bog peat is the greatest staple in Irish history. They burn it, wear it bury bodies in it, filter potcheen through it, shit in it and sleep in it Pete. Plus they probably grew potatoes in it but it was a pretty rotten idea actually.
Then Cromwell came along, and admittedly he was a bit stern with them, but all of a sudden it is the whole the Bastard English fault! Cromwell wasn't English he was the world's first Mezzo Socialist. After he chopped off King Charles's head and buried it in the peat Pete, WE cottoned on to him really quickly, returned the King V2.0 and sent Cromwell the murdering bastard with all the rest of the Presbyterian donkey shagging zealots & roundheaded cronies packing off to the Americas, where they founded the Democrat Party. :blank:
S'true Pete.
Poor misunderstood English have been blamed ever since by Noraid, when the enemy was already on their doorstep.
Jack Kennedy was related to Cromwell Pete.
S'true mate.
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
You're a funny bastard.
You're a funny bastard.
Yo..Pete. True...
Jim Rosenthal
Supporter
Well, glad I asked. I haven't nearly anything as interesting to say about my origins or those of this country, but we haven't been at it nearly as long, so perhaps when we have, we'll have more to brag about.....
Carry on pillaging and whatnot, Keith. Nothing like a bit of good pillaging to spice things up.
Carry on pillaging and whatnot, Keith. Nothing like a bit of good pillaging to spice things up.
Jeff, I believe you're correct in that most come here to be Americans, They can do so without any requirement to change their religion, their cultural heritage (as long as it stays within the laws of the U.S.) and their beliefs. That is their right as citizens of this country. What I find disturbing is the recent and growing trend to be associated with their former country of residence and an also increasing vocal displeasure with the country they have settled in to the point of demonstrations or outright violent activity. That's not ALL immigrants but lately a fast growing number. They surely don't want to leave but it seems they don't want to be American either.
Another issue, closely allied with the former, are groups who demand to be addressed as only part American, in combination with their ex-patriated country, even if it has been several generations past. The groups, [fill-in-the-blank] / Americans, be it Italian, Polish, African, etc want their former home country included there or the rest of us are racist or at the very least politically incorrect (too bad on that one). Case in point: I am of Welsh descent (now no one will talk to me !!) but I do not refer to myself as a Welsh-American. To a Hispanic or black person I'm a 'white guy'. Yet, many of the black population of the U.S. take offense to a similar appellation ("I'm African-American"). If I ask them to then refer to me as a Welsh-American, they look at me like I've got three heads. "You're white, man", but they're insulted if I refer to a 'black' guy.
Why do you suppose this reaction to simply being an 'American' exists? A need to stand out, a need to be an exclusive group, or a need to disassociate? Whatever it is, it didn't used to exist as immigrants were eager to be simply American, in years past. As I said, it's their right to harbor these opinions but I find disruptive of a cohesive society. You opinion?
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Well said A.J. I bet you can sing.
Welcome to New Britain AJ. Unlike yourselves, however, parts of Britain have always been like that. Interestingly though for example, Italians who settled in Scotland (after their tanks were built with 6 reverse gears by mistake) have been very willing to be associated with the Scottish nation and now we have a clutch of successful Scottish racing drivers with names ending in 'i' or 'a' , but for some reasons (probably those I detailed so badly above) no-one wants to be identified as English. It has negative connotations which is why we have always considered ourselves to be British first and foremost, until we woke up one morning and said:
"Oi. in da 'ouse dere, 'old de cell. Wot is I? Is I Brit or English? Na. spit on 'dat I am from Jameeca man and I am eeeeyrie! "
So there it is. The microcosm of a desperate struggle for our own identity after assimilating and bonding with many cultures for thousands of years.
A sense of "English-ism" is on the rise, but regretfully, the hooligans and ultra racists in our society have captured our flag and patron saint, and so, "proper" Englishmen, can no longer wave our flag without some asshat call us racists, which, given our history, is the stupidest thing yet said about the World's most successful BASTARDS ever, in history.
Even Adolf Hitler admired us!
