More Global Cooling/Warming/Change hoax.
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Only one was left by the time the "hero" jettisoned the only remaining pod...but the last scene in the movie showed the robot using a watering can to tend plants in the pod.
Good movie, IMHO...but I am more of a Sci-Fi nut than a conspiracy-theory nut, so my focus was not really relative to the focus of this thread. Still, were it an actual event I cannot imagine that any of us would have NOT been in favor of repopulating Earth with plants at some point. Our very survival as a species and as a planet depends on healthy environment. My sincere hope is that enough of "us" realize that and do what we can to preserve our environment...our own progeny will depend on it. Can we as a species act in time???
Sadly, only time will tell :thumbsdown:
cheers!
Doug
Pete McCluskey.
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Been a bit warm in Chicago I hear?
Sorry Larry - there was no scientific basis to such a prediction. That was once again a half arsed story blown up by a media who are too lazy (or do not care) to check their sources.
For a brief synopsis go to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adAvYK1O-ic&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP&index=24
...and the difference between THEN and NOW with regard to what you're saying is really what, exactly? Seriously. WHAT?
The modern-day science boys told us "global warming" was upon us...until - OOOPS! - someone actually started checking up on the boy's "facts" and discovered the earth hasn't warmed up at all in the past 17 years...not only that, but it was discovered many of the "findings" they had based their "conclusions" on were a total FRAUD. So the boys changed their 'shingle' out front to read "CLIMATE CHANGE" instead, and they started banging the drum on THAT. But, "Ice Age", "warming", or "climate change " - NO MATTER WHAT MAY or may not be happening, the "solution" will always be e-x-a-c-t-l-y the same: MORE GOVT DICTATES. More rules, more regulations, more LAWS, more "departments", more "committees" and "commissions", more govt employees, and, of COURSE - MORE TAX, TAX, TAX, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND - and more fines and penalties.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeup - THAT will fix everything muy dadgum pronto...and anyone who disagrees is a "flat earther"...ignorant...clueless...a dullard...not to mention stoooooooopid - as well as a "hater", and...blah, blah, blah...
Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, Hancock and the rest must be spinning at light speed...
(Edit: I ask again; how are we going to 'correct' variations in the tilt of the earth's axis and the number and intensity of "sun spots/storms"? No "warmer" seems willing to address that...)
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Changes in the tilt of the Earth's axis are well documented. Short term changes (in the order of decades) are too small to cause any significant change to our climate. Long term changes (millions of years), however, do cause changes. Organisms have time to adapt to these. Not really a problem governments need to address. Sun spot activity and solar storms are different. Sunspot activity is cyclic and certainly affects Earth's climate. However, not much we can do about it. At the moment the sun is apparently in a cooling phase, while the Earth is not cooling. Should we just ignore that? Solar storms/flares/mass ejections happen without much pattern and have the potential to fry us or at least all our electronics. Once again, not much governments can do.... So, in answer to your question - the "warmists" are advocating doing something about things over which we at least have some small amount of control. What that something is, in my opinion, is open to debate. I think the way forward is education and developing new technologies. Slapping taxes on everything is a bit of a knee-jerk reaction in my view - a desire to be seen to be doing something
Come on Larry, let's be real here. Take a look at the receding polar ice caps over the last 30 years.....it's dramatic. It clearly suggests a warming of both ocean temps and atmospheric temps. You don't need to believe me, just take a look at the pictures for yourself. Obviously, it's easy for a label of "global warming" to get applied to that phenomenon.
As it turns out, under further study by the smart folks, it's not just a matter of warming ocean temps and atmospheric temps as shown most clearly at the poles....it's a matter of changing climate patterns worldwide IN ADDITION to the obvious warming at the poles. This doesn't invalidate the initial observation of warming at the poles...it just adds further color to the total global-wide extent of the climatic changes. Pretty simple.
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Cliff do you get your information from the IPCC or Al Gore?
"Come on", Cliff. Did you somehow miss the latest "ice cap" situation?:
Arctic ice cap increases 60% in one year; so, is an ice age now coming? - San Jose Christian Perspectives | Examiner.com
But, of course, that inconvenient 'little' increase means absolutely nothing.
I know, I know...
NOW you're making a bit more sense. IOW, we need a 'common sense' approach in general that won't destroy/bankrupt our country or economy in the process...especially given the fact that we have nooooo idea what's actually going on OR what may be "the cause" if there actually IS something out of the ordinary happening. Add to that the worst polluters on the planet will just continue to do what they're doing regardless, and nothing WE might do will ever offset/negate what they do anyway. We might be able to reduce CO2 by smaaaaaall fraction...but, at a cost in the TRILLIONS. Doing something like THAT is just plain NUTS.
However, as I opined, we'll just continue to get what we've always gotten from the alarmist "greenies" and 'the all knowing' in govt...expensive, panic-induced DICTATES based soley on some professor's theories and darned little else.
I'm taking a vaycay on the topic...
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Enjoy it Larry, I have your back:thumbsup:
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Also the reason the so called science has been manipulated..... Get the result the government wants or lose your research grant.
Not me...taxes and fines have been shown to be a very effective deterrent, particularly when a company runs roughshod over the rights of a few homeowners with their polluting, money-grabbing ways. I think that ALL businesses of relatively large size should be required to undergo and pay for periodic pollution reviews and if it is found that they are having a significantly negative impact on the environment they should be given the choice of paying to have the damages "repaired" or have their assets seized by the EPA and liquidated to pay for the cleanup...otherwise we have bullshirt like the Exxon-Valdez incident which STILL has not been cleaned up by the evil demon profitmongering Exxon.
There, I've said it...put that in your pipes and smoke it...just don't pollute the air on which I depend for my very life with the second-hand smoke :thumbsdown:
Doug
I'm sidetracking my vaycay on the topic for a moment to bring you this link:
Bill O'Reilly: BillOReilly.com Column - A Climate of Fear
"Climate change is one of those issues that will never be settled beyond a reasonable doubt, no matter what Al Gore says. So the sane thing to do is for the world to develop cleaner energy options but not ruin economies doing so. We will all be better off if clean and cheap energy becomes the norm."
I'm stunned that HIS view so very closely mirrors my own.
'Back to my vaycay now...'best to all...
Bill O'Reilly: BillOReilly.com Column - A Climate of Fear
"Climate change is one of those issues that will never be settled beyond a reasonable doubt, no matter what Al Gore says. So the sane thing to do is for the world to develop cleaner energy options but not ruin economies doing so. We will all be better off if clean and cheap energy becomes the norm."
I'm stunned that HIS view so very closely mirrors my own.
'Back to my vaycay now...'best to all...
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Doug, while accept that hitting some people (or big corporations) with a humungous stick may be an effective way to get their attention and grudging co-operation, I think that a reward system rather than a penalty system will be more efficacious in the long run...
good read.
Global Warming:A Chilling Perspective
Global Warming:A Chilling Perspective
