I'm surprised that given the fact that Roof is a felon, his father isn't in jail for giving him a gun. The family had to know this kid was mentally disturbed.
How long do you guys want this problem to continue ?
It's really, frankly simple.
Possession of ANY firearm is a death sentence, carried out within 7 days.
No crap legal stays. Simple is best, just as in car design.
Do what the Chinese do and send the bill for the bullet used, to the family.
That's ' Good Bhuddist ' sense to me, what goes around comes around.
Until you get out of your sampled loop of ' Rights ' you will be doomed for a downward spiral...it's really that simple, learn new behaviour.
I agree with you Charlie, but have learned it's useless discussing this with paranoid gun owners on this forum. Australia benefitted from gun control (despite what Pete thinks).
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I don't wanna see anyone FRIED (shot/gassed/hung/injected) unless 'we' are absolutely DEAD SURE (pardon the pun...or not) that the convicted person IS IN FACT, absolutely, positively 100% guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.
Call me wishy-washy...
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Uh...I believe I get/understand your point...? IOW, "possession of ANY firearm" IN THE COMMISSION OF A CRIMINAL OFFENSE "is a death sentence, carried out within 7 days" once one is CONVICTED of said criminal offense...correct?
In SPIRIT, I completely agree with that. BUT, unless there's something like an indisputable V-I-D-E-O of the crime submitted in evidence at trial, if there's any r-e-s-o-n-a-b-l-e basis for an appeal, an appeal should be granted.
I don't wanna see anyone FRIED (shot/gassed/hung/injected) unless 'we' are absolutely DEAD SURE (pardon the pun...or not) that the convicted person IS IN FACT, absolutely, positively 100% guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.
Call me wishy-washy...
So Wishy Washy if the said illegal firearm is not actually on a person maybe in a draw or somewhere how does one prove 100% its his/hers? Being a crim he/she is hardly likely to confess.
Bob
How long do you guys want this problem to continue ?
It's really, frankly simple.
Possession of ANY firearm is a death sentence, carried out within 7 days.
No crap legal stays. Simple is best, just as in car design.
Do what the Chinese do and send the bill for the bullet used, to the family.
That's ' Good Bhuddist ' sense to me, what goes around comes around.
Until you get out of your sampled loop of ' Rights ' you will be doomed for a downward spiral...it's really that simple, learn new behaviour.
I agree with you Charlie, but have learned it's useless discussing this with paranoid gun owners on this forum.
Australia benefitted from gun control (despite what Pete thinks).
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Pete lives there...you live in the Pacific N.W., USA. So, which of you would logic suggest is likely to have the more accurate viewpoint on the topic? :shrug:
So, "Living there" (here there anywhere) gives you automatic comprehension? Why is it then that we in the West are continually trying to save people that live "there" from themselves?
In USA 330 million guns, 2015 almost 6000 deaths by gun(s), the percent of those way below 1%, Is that a resason to completely disarm Americans that legally own firearms? Our Constitution allows for that right, and due to some crazies each year does not justify invalidating our rights.
I am saddened by each and every happenstance of gun violence.More people in America are killed in auto accidents, we are not going to take cars away from us and yet, they are not looking to do that, yet.
I fail to see the relevance of car related deaths etc in this debate, you could drown face down in a bowl of cornflakes if you tried hard enough or beat someone to death with a paintbrush . Surely we are only talking about the CRIMINAL USE of a firearm where a perp sticks a gun into someone and pulls the trigger.
Bob
In USA...2015 almost 6000 deaths by gun(s)...