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Tory councillor admits secret life as member of violent biker gang the Outlaws
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 3:34 PM on 18th February 2011

A respectable Conservative councillor and former mayor has admitted leading a secret double life - as a leather-clad member of a violent biker gang. Jim Mason, 61, has led a distinguished 12-year career as a cabinet member on Tewkesbury Borough Council, Gloucestershire.

But it emerged he was a member of the fearsome Outlaws Motorcycle Club, who were behind the 2007 murder of a Hells Angel on the M40 in Warwickshire.

Photographs taken in September 2009 show him posing with another tattooed member of the Outlaws in Worcestershire - who is sticking his middle finger up to the camera.
The Outlaws - classed as an organised crime group by police forces across the world - was formed in America in 1935 and spread to Europe, where it now has 30 chapters.
Members are bitter enemies of the Hells Angels and a series of tit-for-tat bombings, shootings and arson attacks have taken place around the world.

'Biker gang': Mr Mason on a bicycle while he was the deputy mayor of Tewkesbury
In 2008 seven members of the gang were jailed for the motorway drive-by killing of Gerry Tobin on the M40 after the biker's Bulldog Bash festival a year earlier. Members of the two gangs also clashed in the arrivals hall at Birmingham Airport in 2008. Around 30 bikers - armed with knives, hammers and machetes - took part in the mass brawl. Seven were later convicted for their part in the riot. In a series of pictures that emerged yesterday, the gang's fearsome skull and crossbones logo is emblazoned across bearded Mason's chest as he solemnly raises a glass to the camera.

In another picture, he casually chats to fellow bikers in his full leathers. In his more genteel local government existence, the respected councillor was handed the mayoral chains after being voted into the prestigious post in 2003. Although there is no suggestion Cllr Mason has been involved in any violence, he used to be a 'full patch' member of the group, it is believed.

In some countries being a full patch member means taking part in a dangerous initiation ceremonies, which often involve violence. Speaking from his home in posh Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, yesterday, Mr Mason admitted he used to be an Outlaws member but had now quit. 'All I will say is that I was a member of the Outlaws, but I am not a member anymore and haven't been for some time,' he sad. 'I have a private life - please contact my Conservative office if you need anymore comment.'

Mr Mason, pictured here with the Outlaws, has insisted he is not a member any more - and hasn't been for a number of years. But others have said it is very hard to sever all ties
But biker experts claim it is not easy to quit the scene - likening it to a 'war'. Canadian Julian Sher, an expert on biker gangs, said: 'This is a very structured, disciplined, gang.
'For all the myths about the freedom of the road and the bikers being rebels, they're in a very disciplined, tightly controlled army - an army that's at war. 'And when you're at war everybody's got to do their share.'

Mr Mason, believed to be a father-of-two who lives with wife Mandy, 50, was elected to Tewkesbury Borough Council in 1999. He is now lead member for clean and green evironment portfolio as part of the ruling Conservative majority and was elected mayor of Tewkesbury in 2003.

In a statement yesterday, Tewkesbury Council's chief executive Mike Dawson said they were sticking by Cllr Mason as he had not broken the authority's code of conduct. He said: 'In my experience, councillor Mason undertakes his role as a councillor in a manner that is compatible to the principles governing councillors' conduct.'

The Conservative Party declined to comment
 
Wow that was just such a waste of time but thanks for posting. What does that have to do with the showing up to do their job or better yet how about OBAMA'S funding group sending out unions to protest. You read that right the funding arm of the DNC and the DNC itself is PUSHING for UNION TO PROTEST. Better yet teachers are telling student to skip school and go protest. Way to show how much you care about the youth and their education. Sure we all now believe that you have our children's best interests at heart. How about the fact that they had to CLOSE around twenty schools because the teachers just didn't show up (watch the news and ask why the heck are there so many kids in that crowd?). Oh the list goes on and on but hey nice attempt at misdirection. Way for them to show that they are ready to work with the opposing party and that they have grown up. Funny how it is MOSTLY UNION MEMBERS and their kids that have protested. Typical socialist B.S. Lets all cry for change but not accept what it takes to get that change done. WAA WAA WAA GIVE ME EVERYTHING FOR FREE BECAUSE I AM A DEMOCRAT !!!!
 
There is a lot wrong with Democrats (I used to be one, not anymore) but this is not one of them. Finally, Democrats are standing up for their constituency. This move can be likened to a filibuster, its a delay of the process of government until the other side will make concessions or at least head to the bargaining table. The tens of thousands of protesters should prove an example of how staunchly this bill is opposed. Even the president has stepped in and shown his opposition. These Democrats are doing exactly what they are supposed to do! They are representing the people who elected them, by any means possible. I am willing to bet if the Democrats in Congress were to introduce a bill to outlaw guns, and the Republicans could stop it from going through by being absent, not one Republican representative would be there. Furthermore, Ill bet you would applaud those Republicans for the same action the Democrats in Wisconsin are doing now.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
You are all aware the Pres sided with the Union people. A minority group in the USA, but his major constituency.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
Posted by Domtni

Domtoni,

Are you aware that the republicans sided with the Richest 1%, and gave us a big tax break, a minority group but they are major contributers to Republican causes.

We plan to give our tax savings to the ACLU, thanks!
 
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Keith

Moderator
Nick, I fear the black humour in your comment (which is entirely thread relevant) and very apt post flew at an altitude somwhere between 7' and Angels 50,000 mate thereby missing the targeted conciousness by a mere 2 continents...

Please aim lower...:)
 
Nick, I fear the black humour in your comment (which is entirely thread relevant) and very apt post flew at an altitude somwhere between 7' and Angels 50,000 mate thereby missing the targeted conciousness by a mere 2 continents...

Please aim lower...:)


Keith.

Two countries divided by a common language? glad you got it though.
 
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Posted by Domtni

Domtoni,

Are you aware that the republicans sided with the Richest 1%, and gave us a big tax break, a minority group but they are major contributers to Republican causes.

We plan to give our tax savings to the ACLU, thanks!

Those were an existing tax breaks that were continued, inheritance, and capital gains that affect all of us, not just the rich.
 
Hi Jim,

Yes, I am somewhat of a new poster, but have been lingering around this site for quite some time now. I saw this thread, and felt it necessary to voice myself.
I am in Santa Barbara at the moment, but soon I'm off to live in Germany again. Unfortunately there are very few gt40s there as compared to here, though I have seen a few cobras.
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
You are all aware the Pres sided with the Union people. A minority group in the USA, but his major constituency.

You say this as if it were a bad thing :laugh: !

The unions would not be as "powerless" as they are, or have such low membership, if it weren't for the union-busting actions of the Republicans under Tom Delay's "Win at all costs" regime...not exactly the greatest period in our nation's political history, that's for sure.

While union members may be a minority in the USA, they do not IMHO make up Bee-OH's major consistuency, as you claim. IMHO his major constituency is the "silent majority", those who are satisfied with the direction our country is taking under his leadership and are not so vocal as are the "radical right" TEA partiers in particular and the Republicans in general.

....but, just for a second, let's assume you are correct and the union members ARE BEE-OH's major constituency. What is wrong with a politician representing what he believes to be in the best interest of his major constituency? I thought that's why we elect our politicians, to represent US, their constituency, not their own personal political views. Let's see, hmmmmm......a politician representing the best interest of his constituents, rather than toeing the party line regardless of whether or not his constituents would benefit......GEEZ, what a concept, a politician doing what they are suppose to do :idea:. Gotta love that guy, no :thumbsup: ?

All kidding aside, though....I worked for 32 years in public education, and because of a Republican passed piece of legislation called the "Government Pension Offset" I will only get about 10% of the Social Security to which I am entitled (last time I looked, it was STILL an entitlement program). I'm not happy about that, but I am happy with the retirement plan I got from my state's Teacher Retirement System. Now, having contributed to that plan for 32 years, can you really say with any logical validity that it would be a good thing for the state to eliminate or drastically cut my "expected" benefits? I didn't think so! Those teachers are only doing the same thing any conservative would do, attempt at all costs to "conserve" what is theirs. The only difference I can see is that they are driven by necessity, whereas most of the fat-cat, money-grubbing conservatives I know are driven by greed.

A little compassion for those who are less fortunate than yourself is not a character flaw, domtoni!

Cheers from Doug!!
 

Keith

Moderator
Low...As in Republican low, or...

Low...As in Democrat low, or...

Surely you dont mean....NO!...

...As low as a someone who can't spot a pertinent post???

:worried:

Loooooooow very very looooooooow as in limbo low.

Actually, I blame the whole thing on James Monroe... :uneasy:
 

Pat

Supporter
Wow I had now idea that the low and falling, (private sector) union participation in this country is due to union success in the past. Must be their success in the U.S. steel industry, maritime industry, auto industry and the airlines. They must all be booming. I bet that's why the U.S. has such a favorable trend in manufacturing employment.
I also had no idea that the U.S. preeminence in international educational achievement is due to the NEA and other teachers unions. That must also be why our dropout rates are so favorable, our standardized test scores are so high and so few students are required to take remedial courses when they get to college.

Oh yea...Pension Offset thing...
The Social Security Amendments of 1983 (Public Law 98-21) provided for the WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) as a means of eliminating the "windfall" of social security benefits received by beneficiaries who also receive a pension based on work not covered by Social Security or were required to fully pay into the fund. Prior to the institution of the WEP, beneficiaries who paid little into social security but were paid well outside of the system were given this subsidy. But no problem, the Social Security "trust fund" is robust and will last forever...they can pay folks who didn't fully contribute-no problem...

I get it, today is "opposite day".
 
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Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Ron,

I read the article, it seems that in order to lower their state budget, the Wisconsin leaders have decided to cut Government pay. That makes sense.

But then I see that Police, Fire Fighters, and State Troopers are exempt!

The are just screwing those liberal teachers and the children!!!

If all state workers were treated equally I would be all for this.

Typical selfish Conservative action. They go on about leaving tax debt to our children and complain about the US being behind in education. Then this is their answer to a budget problem!!!

Shame on them!
 
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Ron Earp

Admin
Typical selfish Conservative action. They go on about leaving tax debt to our children and complain about the US being behind in education. Then this is their answer to a budget problem!!!

Shame on them!

I really don't look at it as a conservative or liberal problem. The elected majority has put forth legislation and it needs to be voted on. Your constituents don't like it? Stay and vote nay for the people that elected you. Don't run away and try to stop the process of making law. You were voted into office to work for the people. Get to work - Republican and Democrat alike.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Ron,

When the Republicans were the moronity and they did not like a bill, did they "go in there and vote like the people pay them" for? No, they filibustered!!!!

Did you complain about that then?
 
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