I don't give a damn either Larry. Oh, and Moore is not a co-founder of Greenpeace and never was, despite what he and the media claim. As I have said before, much of the debate around climate change stems from half arsed stories from a media who appear to favour attention seeking headlines over doing proper investigative journalism.
More Global Cooling/Warming/Change hoax.
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Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Agreed Brian, I'm old enough to remember when they actually reported the news, rather than sensationalising everything to try and gain ratings and sell advertising space.
'Doesn't matter. Whether his climate stmts are correct or not does (I guess). I'm just tired of this whole bogus "crisis" and all the fraud connected to it.
I mean, look at the reports in the link above. The "warmers" seemingly are now ADMITTING 'temps' haven't increased in any amount worth mentioning over the last 17 years (or pick the figure), but, are they admitting their wild predictions regarding the near term RATE of warming were WRONG? OH, HECK NO! What they're NOW saying is that "warming" is just presently "on hold" (for some unspecified reason) - BUT IT WILL START UP AGAIN!!! Well, HOW BLOODY CONVENIENT is that??? It's like I said before - NO MATTER WHAT the weather/global temps/etc., actually do, the GLOBAL WARMING-types ("climate change" boys,...whatever they're called is THIS week) continue to claim that "warming" is STILL happening faster than at any time in history and CO2 is the reason. Well, if it IS - WHY has 'warming', for all intents and purposes, STOPPED for over a decade now??? Man is still doing what he's been doing 'same as always. So, WHAT has caused 'warming' to STOP? 'Sure as there's a heaven and hell it can't be due to a massive drop in man-made CO2, can it.
I'm sick of it all...
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Don't give up Larry, we deniers need all the help we can get.
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
This puts CO2 in perspective.
The Rice Video - Carbon Dioxide in perspective by The Galileo Movement - YouTube
The Rice Video - Carbon Dioxide in perspective by The Galileo Movement - YouTube
Enjoy the dram Larry. The only thing I will add, and this goes for both sides of the argument, is check your source thoroughly. Don't simply believe what is presented in the media, or on warmist or denialist blogs, or what is posted by special interest groups, unless they have links to actual peer reviewed research that is verifiable. If they don't, go to the original research yourself and find out what the scientists who are doing the research actually say. No, it's not as easy as simply reading what pops up on your screen, but can be done and it is the only way will you get the real story.
Here's what I know with absolute certainty; THERE ISN'T ABSOLUTE PROOF that man-made "warming" caused by CO2 or anything else is actually going on in an abnormal, accelerated way. PERIOD.
Therefore, it is 100% N-U-T-S for the govt to stick us with taxes and fines and penalties and BASELESS regulations at this time "just in case" the greenie loons are right.
Therefore, it is 100% N-U-T-S for the govt to stick us with taxes and fines and penalties and BASELESS regulations at this time "just in case" the greenie loons are right.
Pete McCluskey.
Lifetime Supporter
Amazing what happens when you get a right wing Government in power.
The Galileo Movement
The following letter has been sent to Prime Minister Tony Abbott from:
Des Moore, former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
Case Smit, Director, Galileo Movement
The Hon. Tony Abbott MP, March 19 2014.
Further to our earlier correspondence requesting a cost/benefit inquiry into climate-related expenditures, you will be interested to know that the American Physical Society (APS), which with 50,000 members is probably the largest society of physicists in the world, has started formally to examine alternative views on the physical science basis of global warming. In the light of the failure of IPCC climate change models, the APS has appointed a six-person panel including three independent scientists of a sceptical nature, including Dr Richard Lindzen and a one-time lead author of the IPCC, Dr John Christy.
The APS decision to review its position would make it not out of step for the Australian government to undertake a similar review in the form of a cost/benefit inquiry.
Des Moore, former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
Case Smit, Director, Galileo Movement
Then you should try this:
Put a single bullet into a 6-shot revolver.
Spin the cylinder.
Point it at your daughter's knee.
Pull the trigger.
How much would you pay to have that (unlikely) bullet misfire?
That's pretty much analogous to our climate situation except, according to almost all climate scientists, there are five bullets in the chamber, not one.
Actually there is a 99.999999999999999999999999 chance the bullet will fire. It was 25 degrees in CT this morning, tomorrow is the first day of spring, the polar ice cap is 50% larger than last year. They've changed it from "global warming" to "climate change" so they can have it both ways. We will have more hot weather, we will have more cold weather, it's been happening for 4.5 billion years. And when we parasites on the earth fade away, it will continue to happen. Climate change scientist are using a 60 year window of data in 4.5 billion years, how naïve. But there is money to be made, no, it couldn't be the money!
Ian Anderson
Lifetime Supporter
Al
I removed a few words from your post and it is just like a Porn discussion
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Actually is that not what you were saying - they are screwing us!
sorry couldn't resist
Terry Oxandale
Skinny Man
Not directed toward you Al, but an interesting statement you've made in that many critics of climate change use a 2 month window out of 2000 years to support their opinions. So the naivety runs amuck.
So is the perception that one is getting bent over by the other (financially) the real issue here? Taking that perception completely out of the equation, would any opinions change...be honest. It would appear some folks are so bent-nosed about how their (and others) wallets are affected, there doesn't appear to be any consideration of the 'bullet in the chamber' in regards to their kids. Too put it bluntly (per Bob's post), some folks are so damned focused on the cost of that single bullet, their selfishness blinds them from seeing the ramifications of what that bullet could do.
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I'll tell you what else people are blind to: The amount of filth and poison Russia & China (to name but two) spew into the atmosphere on a daily basis.
Are we to pay for their total disinterest too?
It doesn't matter what WE cure, what WE pay, what WE do in the Western hemisphere, they are still fucking it all up in the Eastern Hemisphere and will continue to do so.
What is needed is a true global strategy but we're now just about to enter a new period of Global Cooling if the EU and USA sanction crazy politicos get their way and try to isolate Russia.
And no, it's not like Hitlers land grab at all, but that's another story.
Right now Putin has got his hands around the scrotum of Europe with Gazprom and the USA are feeling the cold fingers of China around their military throats in the Far East.
Stop arguing about semantics and take a look at the real world.
Are we to pay for their total disinterest too?
It doesn't matter what WE cure, what WE pay, what WE do in the Western hemisphere, they are still fucking it all up in the Eastern Hemisphere and will continue to do so.
What is needed is a true global strategy but we're now just about to enter a new period of Global Cooling if the EU and USA sanction crazy politicos get their way and try to isolate Russia.
And no, it's not like Hitlers land grab at all, but that's another story.
Right now Putin has got his hands around the scrotum of Europe with Gazprom and the USA are feeling the cold fingers of China around their military throats in the Far East.
Stop arguing about semantics and take a look at the real world.
Only because they supply the western world with cheap goods. Without the demand there would be very little pollution. Now who is really the dirty man here ? Is it the western consumer who is price driven and cares little about the filth providing its not in his back yard or the manufacturer ?
Bob
