YES or NO?

[Ian Anderson]

Well Scotland is about to vote to either YES -become independent or NO Remaon part of the United Kingdom

Yes will get them a smaller Government and get the government away from Westminster, who they say are too far away to be able to legislate correctly etc.

NO keeps it as it is.


What are your thoughts?
Now if it was "The state of Kalifornia" (Or any other State - perhaps "Texas") voting to become independent? How would you feel then?

It will be interesting to see how Scotland goes as everything shows it is near 50/50 split.

Ian

 

[Doug S.]

Now if it was "The state of Kalifornia" (Or any other State - perhaps "Texas") voting to become independent? How would you feel then?

Many in Texas have proposed secession from the U.S. for a long time, and there are still quite a few who believe that would be a good idea (not the least of which is our goofy "Governor Good-Hair", Rick Perry, who, believe it or not, wants to try again to become president of the very country from which he believes Texas should secede).

...and some people wonder why Texas gets made fun of so much....GEEZ, with leaders like Governor Good-Hair there's plenty to be made fun of!

I hope your leaders are more capable (and that would not be hard). Since I don't have a dog in this race about which you posted, I'll not express an opinion...just responding to the question about TX and secession.

Cheers!

Doug

 

[Frank Catt]

For me - NO

 

[Jeff Young]

Balkanization is rarely good. No to Scotland leaving, no to California leaving.

 

[David Morton]

A resounding YES. Scotland has been screwed over so many times by lying shitbags from the Bullingdon circus and turds like Bliar and Brown, it can only be a better course of action to rule from Edinburgh. Just imagine Prime Minister Boris Johnson laying the law down to the Jocks?
I know First Minister for Scotland Salmond personally and yes, there will be teething issues but it has to be a YES. It cannot get much worse for Scotland than the last 50 years so lets all try to help make independance a success.

 

[Jack]

None of my business as a yank, however, if it winds up "Yes" they better keep away from the EU/EEC.

 

[Paul Brameld]

No

and here is why.

Could not have put it better myself:

Ewan Morrison – YES: Why I Joined Yes and Why I Changed to No | wakeupscotland

 

[Robert May Eng.]

It has to be a big no to protect the general public from that egotistical twat that thinks Scotlands future is in the oilfields . A very good friend of mine is a geologist for a well known oil exploration company and he is of the opinion that the oil that is left in the north sea is the most expensive in the world to extract. He also said that his company will not going ahead with a major project if there is a yes vote. The aforementioned along with several other major investment programs that wont be going ahead in the event of a yes vote gives some idea of the lack of confidence investors have in Mr Independence Salmond and his merry men.
I also worry about the very few tax paying workers there are in the country, there is a population of 5 million, the working population is app 2 million , 25% of these are unemployed and app 25% are paid below the tax threshold. Then subtract the fudged figures of those on job seekers allowances and the plethora of other schemes that hide the true figure of those that are employed and it leaves a very very small percentage of revenue generators. I think the tax burden on these few is going to escalate out of proportion when they have to pay their own version of the NHS , a defense system, education , infrastructure and on ............ :thumbsdown::thumbsdown: and bollocks.
I also dont know of one sweaty sock south of the border that is pro Independence so its just as well Mr Salmond excluded the rest of his fellow Scots from the O so important for Scottish people referendum .The man is the Pied Piper about to lead his people over a cliff .Ian why is there no couldn't give a toss section in the poll ?

Bob

 

[Malcolm]

Originally a No but getting a bit miffed at the bribery being offered for a No result to keep Scotland in the Union without there being an equivalent English parliament. It shouldn't be a No vote at any cost.

Amazed this topic didn't start until just 2 days before the voting begins!

 

[Rick Muck- Mark IV]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...t=a.10150340288906944.393208.678311943&type=1

All of the people I know in Scotland are "No" but then I don't know that many people in Scotland!

 

[David Morton]

The agreement (made about two years ago I think) was to hold a referendum. Not a voting System, not a poll as such , but a referendum. It was quite clear and not ambiguous in any way.
This (except I think in Switzerland) means a clear choice between two options and in this case a "No" and a "Yes". There was never the choice in a referendum to have any other such as "no couldn't give a toss".
Cameron knew this referendum would paint him as a deeply unpopular PM (more so now after venturing north of the border and Salmond knew and capitalized on it.)
If a "NO" vote succeeds and the promises of Cameron made during this referendum are
upheld, will Stormont and Cardiff (Northern Ireland and Wales for you foreigners) will probably start agitating for similar.
If a "no" vote succeeds how long will it be before another generation wants another referendum? I think 20 years but I am quietly confident that the "No" vote will fail.
What happened in the year 1707 will be thrown to the wind and Queen Anne will probably turn in her grave in Westminster Abbey.

 

[David Morton]

Rick,

recently 5.3 million but a lot of servicemen and their families have moved back to England.
No Romanians in the north apparently and the same seems to be so in Wales.

Dave

 

[Malcolm]

Apparently if the YES vote wins then average life expectancy in the UK will go up and the annual average rain fall for the UK will go down.

 

[JimmyMac]

Many don't think so.

 

[Paul Brameld]

I never thought I would say buy Gordon Brown a drink but after this:

Gordon Brown gives rousing speech to Scots in final campaign push - FT.com

 

[Keith]

Amazed this topic didn't start until just 2 days before the voting begins!

It didn't. I started a thread 2 months back but no-one was interested. As far as I am concerned, when I saw that the Viking was pro Independence, I immediately shifted my considerable allegiance to the NO's despite the ass cringingly wheedling from the incompetent Labour Party at who's rotten feet we can lay the dregs of at least 90% of our problems. They even dragged Bliars bullion bloated corpse out to add his 2 guineas worth.

I've sold my soul to the damned champagne socialists and I'd better get my cut.

 

[Jeff Young]

How in teh world could this be good for Scots?

I read an article this am, can't link it now for some reason, that says the loss of efficiencies from now having a real border with England alone will cost them 7-8% of GDP over the next 4 years. That's like teh 2008 recession all over again!

Is Scotland really that different that it needs to be a separate country? More importantly, it seems to me that the best way to protect your traditions and culture is to be economically successful so that you are strong enough to do so.

 

[Larry L.]

As a 'Yank' who's about 20% Scot, I'm finding the comments herein posted on the topic to be quite fascinating. I'm astonished to find I'm most impressed by the truly insightful and seemingly very well informed comments of Mr. Morton.

Please - just shoot me!

 

[Stephen Ducker]

We want to be ' independent & in the EU ' REALLY ?

 

[David Morton]

Larry,
Bang.
Bang again.