SPF #2285 Born, But Still Coming To Life

Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
GT40 p2285 Rear Glass Panel

What is your thinking Robert? Better able to see the engine without the glass? There is another GT40 that doesn't have glass but I think its because it has a hi-rise manifold on it. Will the glass fit with your injection setup?

Ford GT 40 Sound Oldtimertreffen Bad Vilbel-Massenheim 03.07.11 - YouTube

Thanks Mike! My intake stacks and air cleaners do clear the rear safety glass window with several inches to spare. However, when the glass is off it does appear like they wouldn't fit under the glass, but the glass is not flat and does curve upward toward the center, even though the rim it mounts to is rather flat from edge to edge.

I'll follow this up with some photos and more info on the topic soon.

Robert
 

Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
Badaz Eight Stack

An aerial shot of my eight stack at idle warm-up on one particularly foggy morning. This would not have been possible with rear glass installed, which is clearly another benefit of removing the glass. Kind of makes me swell up with pride, huh.

Robert

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Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
EWB MKI GT40 Picts

Hi Robert,

I have a EWB Red Mk1 on order. Would love to see the dozen or so photos Lance sent you if you still have them available.

- Liondog

Jeffrey,

Received your PM with eMail address and sent you all nine photos of the Red EWB MKI GT40.

Robert
 

Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
Braces For Our p2285 . . .

Robert, thank you for posting the photos of the canards. This will help a lot. Sorry for my tardy reply. Must have missed your posting. Car is looking Sweeeeeet!

Jimmy, my car is at the age now where I felt the need to have its canards straightened. No car of mine will ever have to go to the car prom with crooked canards. So, I went ahead, did the car right and took him to the carodontist. Yep, the car needed braces. It's expensive to raise cars, huh.

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Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
GT40 p2285 Hydraulic Lift System, Low Stance, Obstacle Avoidance

Robert, Very, Very Nice!

I love the stance, how do you get by with the nose that low?

that is indeed very nice, and indeed very low at the front with all those street jumps or other low obstacles.

Greetings to fellow GT40 enthusiasts Jim and Rene. Thank you for your positive observations and comments.

Both before and during the 7 months I waited for my roller to arrive in the states, I searched for and found as many photos and videos of GT40s as I was able to. The ones with the lower stance, especially the red #33 MKI GT40, always got my attention. Early on, I'm not certain how much I understood about the various appearances of a variety of cars. It took longer than it should have to eventually come to know that there were three body widths and even more variances of those between carmakers. Soon, I came to love the extra wide-body and the lower stance.

I read much about the proper GT40 ride height of front and rear, and the downside using lower or higher heights: scraping and non optimal suspension function, increased tire wear, and wandering steering. Still, I really desired to have a lower stance. Someone pointed me toward a variety of products mostly marketed to offer lifting of the front end of a car to avoid scraping on speed bumps and driveways. Once I learned that these special hydraulic units were very small, not noisy and operated relatively quickly, I became seriously interested. I then pondered whether equipment was available to lift both the front and the rear. I was excited to learn that a unit was available to lift all four points at the same time.

As it turned out, the lift system was one of the GOOD surprises during this whole ordeal that spanned 15 months. The price of the unit was shocking at first, and the install labor was higher than I expected, but to be fair, I had no idea what the unit looked like, how it was made, nor what the scope of work was.

Just one of my many bad habits is to always push the envelope. So, I thought, rather than use such a unit for the typical application: lifting a car only to avoid obstacles, I thought about my desired goal of having a wicked lower stance too. So, I requested my installer to set the normal ride heights lower, and to make all the suspension alignments according to the lower than normal height. Thereby, I was able to cruise the highways at a strikingly lower stance, while being able to lift all four body points a full two or more inches with a simple push of the dash button, which does allow for driveway, speed bump, and other obstacle avoidance, and to have it all happen in 15 seconds or slightly longer.

The lift system consists of a small 12v DC motor that drives a small hydraulic pump, and sends the hydraulic fluid through four separate small steel braided lines (one to each coilover.) The base unit that houses all of the above and hydraulic fluid reservoir too, is smaller than a cigar box. You cannot hear this system run even when you attempt to. The small stainless steel flush push button is a tad smaller than the engine start button, and includes a blinking LED light when in operation, and that light stays lit when the system is in up position, and the light goes out when the system is lowered.

After using this system during various driving conditions, I have become better at learning when to use the lift system, how quickly to react and activate, and how to observe cars ahead of me as they go over the RR tracks, as one example, to know when to initiate a lift or not. During this learning process, I did scrape some, but nothing severe.

There are small cons to such a setup, but for me, they are not remarkable. For one, at the lower ride height position, alignment can be made, but it is not optimum. Thus, there could be slightly faster tire wear, and other small handling nuances – not remarkable either. At the higher height, the car tracks a little funny, but not remarkably, nor dangerously. Besides, you are not supposed to drive long distances at the higher lift.

I concluded this worthy project achieved my goal of being a low-rider, and providing for obstacle avoidance. I have nothing but praise for this product and no buyer's remorse whatsoever.

I hope this information will be helpful to anyone interested in this topic.

Thanks again Jim and Rene!

All good things, Robert
 
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O K Robert,
You have made some very good points about your lift system. Now we need some names, IP addresses and photos of the product. I had invisioned a unit such as yours but never heard of such a unit. I guess you have to go to the "Low Riders" forums to find these tyes of units. Yes, No?? Now give us the info, Please!!

Bill
 

Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
GT40 Lifts Reply

O K Robert,
You have made some very good points about your lift system. Now we need some names, IP addresses and photos of the product. I had invisioned a unit such as yours but never heard of such a unit. I guess you have to go to the "Low Riders" forums to find these tyes of units. Yes, No?? Now give us the info, Please!!

Bill

Mr. Bill.

They are difficult to locate because there are auto mechanic lifts, and as you pointed out, REAL low rider lifts. I had the best luck when I searched for auto suspension lifts. The brand name of mine was KW, and they are sold at most larger auto parts stores, and internet stores. Earlier on this build thread, I did show picts and video of the small control box. I elected to install it in the front nose area. I also showed photos of the lift mechanisms beneath the coilovers. Maybe search by key name lift. If you can't find it, I'll try to search for the picts. BTW, I did forget to mention they also have a remote control FOB.

Here is a two minute demo video: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0H-bfUKRxI]eas | KW Hydraulic Lift System (HLS) Demo - YouTube[/ame]

Two other forum members wrote me via PM to inquire about the lift system. I hope this will prove helpful to Bill and to the others who wished to remain anonymous.

If you need any additional info, please don't hesitate to inquire of me. Always glad to help and to receive help from others. Robert
 
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Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
Robert,

Is it the lighting, or is that semi-gloss paint?

I hope you're referencing that girl's white car, and not mine . . . :stunned:

I don't know her, but it may be the lighting and perhaps pearl paint. That's my best guess, until you direct her to contact me in person :thumbsup:

Robert
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Robert,

Sorry, I'm referring to the photos of the beautiful Gulf 40, (post 266). I was looking at the photos and paint looks like it might be semi-gloss, a style we see more and more around here. Either way, that is one beautiful car, I'll have to look into those body lift systems.
 
that looks like some good lifting system and a welcome if you want to drive that low which looks good in this case and a welcome at trackdays.
KW is a good brand, I also have some coil-overs from them (came with the car), although my KW-2 system is already 12 years on my car they are still 'good' and no leaking or rebuild.
 

Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
GT40 p2285 Photos Suspension Lift Component Details

O K Robert,
You have made some very good points about your lift system. Now we need some names, IP addresses and photos of the product. I had invisioned a unit such as yours but never heard of such a unit. I guess you have to go to the "Low Riders" forums to find these tyes of units. Yes, No?? Now give us the info, Please!!

Bill

Bill and others interested, here's some follow-up with photos of the lift control box, and details of the steel hose, and lift mechanism.

liftseq1.jpg liftseq2.jpg liftseq3.jpg
 

Robert S.

GT40s Supporter
Robert,

Sorry, I'm referring to the photos of the beautiful Gulf 40, (post 266). I was looking at the photos and paint looks like it might be semi-gloss, a style we see more and more around here. Either way, that is one beautiful car, I'll have to look into those body lift systems.

On that day, and for this whole past week, we've experienced a solid layer of high altitude cirrus clouds. The sky defused the light and it casts a strange red/yellow tinge color. So, it was either the ambient light, the Chinease up to no good, antics from those behind the green door, or those who imparted the knowledge of how to construct the pyramids creating the clouds to cover their return.

Hope they teach us how to make even better GT40s.

Robert
 
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