F1 2009

Incredible how are they managing felipe massa nearly fatal crash.
I only hear..pilot ok..pilot no problem...pilot maybe will have JUST a medical check,all ok all ok.

And just now I heard about some probably brain damages (they will tell something more tomorrow at 10 am), a very delicate surgical operation to his face to reduce the skull broken..and just saw ugly pics I dont wanna link here of felipe with destroyed helmet and a closed eye in full blood.

All this show is really UGLY.

...and sure...pilot ok..pilot no problem, lets talk about timing,this show must go on.
Ma vaffanculo va.
 

Keith

Moderator
Yes Paulo it was a lot worse that it appeared...

Sorry mate but it's in the public domain now...

He has some skull fractures and concussion but he will be OK...

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Very very lucky....
 
Damn lucky man....has anyone mentioned the FIA pulling or inspecting the Brawn cars? Enough to think about while driving besides parts falling out. But then if I'd ever worried about all the parts that could break, or the one nut that secures a rotor head, I never flown helicopters. Big sky little bullet theory...

The weather is better than that I had at Nurburgring two weeks ago. Still have a cold.
 
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Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
Hmmm, an induced coma is typical treatment for someone with brain trauma and recovery can be slow. He is very lucky he is still with us. Best wishes for a full recovery. It may be some time before we see him back in the pilots seat.
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
Positive scan outcome for Massa


<!-- ArticleBodyStart -->Ferrari have described as ‘positive’ the outcome of a CT scan carried out on injured driver Felipe Massa on Sunday morning. Massa was awake for some time and has now been returned to an induced coma to aid his recovery.

Massa sustained concussion and a fractured skull during his high-speed qualifying crash at the Hungaroring on Saturday, when he was struck on the helmet by a damper spring from the Brawn car of Rubens Barrichello.

After undergoing emergency surgery in Budapest’s AEK Hospital, Massa was kept under observation in intensive care overnight, suffering no complications. The Brazilian remains in a stable condition and is expected to spend at least the next two to three days under close medical supervision.

He was visited by Barrichello and by FOM CEO Bernie Ecclestone on Saturday evening, before several members of his family, including his wife, flew in from Brazil to be by his bedside on Sunday. Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo will travel to Budapest on Monday.
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
Renault are suspended from the European Grand Prix. WTF a penalty now for every bit of human error? That will really help ticket sales. These people are killing F1




<!-- ArticleBodyStart -->Renault will miss the next round of the championship for allowing Fernando Alonso to leave the pits with a wheel not properly secured during Sunday's Hungarian Grand Prix.

A mistake attaching the front-right wheel at Alonso's first stop led to it coming loose from the car once the Spaniard had returned the track. He limped back to the pits but was subsequently forced to retire due to resulting damage.

Budapest stewards decided Renault had been negligent in failing to secure the wheel, in knowingly letting Alonso leave the pits with the problem, and in failing to inform their driver of the issue.

Renault are to appeal the decision. Should that appeal fail it means Alonso and team mate Nelson Piquet will not participate in the European Grand Prix on August 21-23.
 

Pat Buckley

GT40s Supporter
I agree with you , Pete. Although Piquet can look at it as a one race reprieve!

Too bad the FIA weren't around over the last few years when all manner of things were leaving the Ferrari's!
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
The human error thing is one issue, but if they truely knowingly sent out an uninformed driver, then that is another. I'm sure the boss was thinking they'd skirt by on one lap, tighten the nut, and be off on the next, but it didn't work out that way.
 
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So penalising the (uninformed) driver is a great idea then...

FWIW I agree Pete.
Stupid bloody F1.

Then again maybe Mosely orchestrated the penalty to help Ferrari get Alonso sooner. Give him a basis for a breach of contract claim with Renault etc... That I might believe. One last favour for the prancing horse. ;)

I bet it's Obama's fault... ;)


Get well soon Felipe.


Tim.
 
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Malcolm

Supporter
I don't beleive someone of the calibre of Alonso needed informing! He said in his post retirement interview that he knew the wheel was due to fall off after he went round the first corner. A little bit of rubber pickup on a race car causes huge vibration (will do that even on a 40) so a loose wheel must have been horrendous. You could see the vibration in the slow mo close up shots. All stupid still in F1.
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
The Spanish sports newspaper Diario AS believes it is possible that Fernando Alonso will replace Felipe Massa at the forthcoming European grand prix.

The Italian team is currently contemplating a replacement for 28-year-old Massa, who is recovering in Budapest from head injuries sustained during a qualifying incident last Saturday.

Alonso had already been linked with a move to Ferrari in 2010 or beyond, and he is suddenly now without a cockpit for his second home race after his team Renault was issued a one-race ban for an incident during the Hungarian grand prix.

The AS report claims that, by incurring the penalty, Renault - which intends to appeal the verdict - broke a "basic commitment" enshrined in Alonso's contract; that the French carmaker must offer the two-time world champion a cockpit at every grand prix in 2009.

What a crock of pure speculative reporting, the first line "believes it is possible'' means "we made it up".
Anyway I have it from my very reliable inside source that Massa's replacement will be......The Stig!
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
From Auto Sport.



F1 braced for BMW exit announcement

By Jonathan Noble and Dieter Rencken Tuesday, July 28th 2009, 21:26 GMT


BMW's future in Formula 1 is in serious doubt tonight amid mounting speculation that the German car manufacturer will announce its withdrawal from the sport at the end of this season, on Wednesday.

An emergency press conference has been called at BMW's headquarters in Munich, where it is suggested that the car company may reveal that it has decided to end its involvement in F1.

The invite to the press conference said it had been called because of 'current developments in motor sport.'

The press conference will be hosted by Dr. Norbert Reithofer, the chairman of the BMW board, Dr. Klaus Draeger, the director for development, and Mario Theissen, BMW motorsport director. The presence of such senior management figures suggests that the announcement will be very significant.

Officials at BMW refused to comment about what the press conference was about, but they did confirm that it was 'important' news.

BMW had hoped to fight for the world championship this year, but instead the F1.09 has fallen short of expectations. Its struggles, allied to the abandonment of its KERS, that BMW had pushed hard for in F1, are likely to have played a part in any decision about the future of the team.

Although BMW Sauber had a difficult start to the season, Theissen has made it clear on several occasions that the team's form had not changed the BMW Board's commitment to F1.

"We analysed and evaluated the situation and the F1 programme with the board prior to the start of the season in February," said Theissen in May. "It was overall a very positive evaluation and judgement, and that hasn't changed.

"Apparently everybody is disappointed about the sporting results, but other than that there is no news and we have not discussed it since."

However, sources suggest that a review meeting was planned for July to decide the future of the team - and this may be behind any announcement planned for the morning.

Should BMW confirm it is pulling out of the sport, it will be the second car manufacturer to do so in eight months - with Honda having announced last December that it was to leave the sport.

The announcement will be more of a surprise, however, because BMW Sauber was on the verge of signing a Concorde Agreement that would have committed the team to F1 until the end of 2012.
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
BMW will quit F1 at the end of 2009<!-- end title -->


From Auto Sport.

<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" height=0%><TBODY><TR><TD class=news_article_author vAlign=top width="50%" align=left><!-- credit -->By Jonathan Noble<!-- end credit --></TD><TD class=news_article_date width="50%" align=right>Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 08:02 GMT</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


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BMW has announced it is to quit Formula 1 at the end of the 2009 season, as AUTOSPORT predicted last night.
The news was confirmed at a press conference in Munich this morning, and comes on the back of a disappointing campaign for the outfit.
Dr. Norbert Reithofer, chairman of the BMW board, said that the decision was made after a refining of the company's future strategy.
"Of course, this was a difficult decision for us. But it's a resolute step in view of our company's strategic realignment," he said.
"Premium will increasingly be defined in terms of sustainability and environmental compatibility. This is an area in which we want to remain in the lead. In line with our Strategy Number ONE, we are continually reviewing all projects and initiatives to check them for future viability and sustainability. Our Formula 1 campaign is thus less a key promoter for us.
"Mario Theissen has been in charge of our motor sports program since 1999. We have scored a large number of successes in this period, including some in Formula 1 racing. I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Mario Theissen and his team for this."
BMW motorsport director Mario Theissen, who spearheaded the company's efforts as an engine supplier with Williams and then later with BMW Sauber, said he understood the reasons behind the withdrawal.
"Of course, we, the employees in Hinwil and Munich, would all have liked to continue this ambitious campaign and show that this season was just a hiccup following three successful years," he said. "But I can understand why this decision was made from a corporate perspective. We will now focus sharply on the remaining races and demonstrate our fighting spirit and put in a good result as we bid farewell to Formula 1 racing."
Dr. Klaus Draeger, member of the board who is responsible for development, said this season's poor results had played a part in the move to quit F1.
"It only took us three years to establish ourselves as a top team," he said. "Unfortunately, we were unable to meet expectations in the current season.
"Nevertheless, our ten years of Formula 1 experience have had a major impact on our development engineers. We have racing to thank for numerous technological innovations as well as the competitive spirit that drives us to develop mass-produced cars."
 

David Morton

Lifetime Supporter
Nelson Piquet gone, Romain Grosjean in.
Some bitter words on both sides this afternoon.
Alonso will not drive in Massas car and the ban
on Renault racing in Valencia will go to FIA appeal.
(I think they will win the appeal as well)
Anyway - Cricket is more appealing now while we have
the Ashes at stake.
 
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