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Randy V

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I found this very interesting...
Nothing speaks to me more than the candidates themselves. I've been troubled by the lack of press conferences from HRC. I tire quickly of prepared text from websites where the candidate may or may not have had any hand in. Speeches can go the same way, but at least I am hearing it for myself...
Give it a watch if you have the time :::
https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM
 

Pete McCluskey.

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I don't think she has Parkinson's I think of her excessive nodding is a learned response to try and show empathy. It is acting not Parkinson's.
 

Larry L.

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I found this very interesting...
https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM

'Watched this a couple weeks ago. 'Found it very compelling since there have now been three people who have friends or relatives dealing with Parkinson's who've told me those folks exhibit many of the exact same symptoms.

So, whether one chooses to believe she has it or not boils down to comparing the video evidence that supposedly suggests she has Parkinson's to the 'testimony' of those who report seeing those same symptoms being exhibited by people whom they know have the disease, and doing one's own math.
 

Larry L.

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I don't think she has Parkinson's I think of her excessive nodding is a learned response to try and show empathy. It is acting not Parkinson's.

'Agree as far as most of the 'nodding' is concerned. She's been doing that since The Mayflower landed.

Nodding 'yes' while asking someone a yes-or-no question is a well-known sales tool used by salesmen to lead a customer into answering 'yes' to a question or to get him to 'agree' with whatever point the salesman is trying to make during his sales pitch.
 

Steve

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My initial thought was "total BS". The August speech where she froze, however, made me seriously pause. That wasn't dehydration or anything else that I can think of. She wasn't wobly on her feet (the SS agent didn't swoop in to support her) or about to pass out. It wasn't a TIA (no urgency from the SS) although it resembled it. It wasn't an absence seizure, although resembled one slightly. The SS agent was clearly prepared and prompted her to initiate the recovery. It was minutes before she was "back" however.

Oh, and I am an MD and I've seen all of these diagnoses many times. Much like the man in the video, though, I'm certainly not HRC's doctor and there can be a completely benign explanation(s). She's had a lot of falls and resulting injuries for your average non-manual laborer 60's age individual and I would agree that Parkinson's is the most likely explanation that explains all. It's either that or several separate explanations/reasons. The simple answer is usually the correct one though.
 
slight thread drift, but when HC was standing at the 9/11 memorial several days ago did you notice the guy on her right ( presumably SS agent ) patting his left chest just before they assisted her to the car?. I wondered at the time if it was a morse code deal on his mike to ask for assistance.
 

Larry L.

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My initial thought was "total BS". The August speech where she froze, however, made me seriously pause. That wasn't dehydration or anything else that I can think of. She wasn't wobly on her feet (the SS agent didn't swoop in to support her) or about to pass out. It wasn't a TIA (no urgency from the SS) although it resembled it. It wasn't an absence seizure, although resembled one slightly. The SS agent was clearly prepared and prompted her to initiate the recovery. It was minutes before she was "back" however.

Oh, and I am an MD and I've seen all of these diagnoses many times. Much like the man in the video, though, I'm certainly not HRC's doctor and there can be a completely benign explanation(s). She's had a lot of falls and resulting injuries for your average non-manual laborer 60's age individual and I would agree that Parkinson's is the most likely explanation that explains all. It's either that or several separate explanations/reasons. The simple answer is usually the correct one though.


I don't wish Billary (or almost anyone else) ANY physical (or mental) ill whatsoever...but, if it poses no actual health risk to her, I'd like to see her have one of those "seizures" during the upcoming debate. Why? Because the debate will be broadcast L-I-V-E...and the media won't be able to cover for her by parsing, nuancing or SPINNING what people see. What people see will be seen in 'real time'. Voters will then be able to make their own unfiltered judgment as to whether or not Billary may have a condition that ought to disqualify her from becoming our next president.

It's certain neither Billary nor her campaign will ever voluntarily come clean regarding her health or any other issue - E-V-E-R. If history proves nothing else it proves that.
 

Jeff Young

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I found this very interesting...
Nothing speaks to me more than the candidates themselves. I've been troubled by the lack of press conferences from HRC. I tire quickly of prepared text from websites where the candidate may or may not have had any hand in. Speeches can go the same way, but at least I am hearing it for myself...
Give it a watch if you have the time :::
https://youtu.be/Zr1IDQ2V1eM

I found this very interesting. I don't give a fuck about facts, or science, or any of that shit. I'm easily duped by things like "Infowars" and have a gnawing fear that "may America" is being stolen by black folks, and immigrants and hell..now a woman! I mean, forget what her doctor says, she must have Parkinsons!

Give it a watch if you have the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuDTidbziZI
 

Jeff Young

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My initial thought was "total BS". The August speech where she froze, however, made me seriously pause. That wasn't dehydration or anything else that I can think of. She wasn't wobly on her feet (the SS agent didn't swoop in to support her) or about to pass out. It wasn't a TIA (no urgency from the SS) although it resembled it. It wasn't an absence seizure, although resembled one slightly. The SS agent was clearly prepared and prompted her to initiate the recovery. It was minutes before she was "back" however.

Oh, and I am an MD and I've seen all of these diagnoses many times. Much like the man in the video, though, I'm certainly not HRC's doctor and there can be a completely benign explanation(s). She's had a lot of falls and resulting injuries for your average non-manual laborer 60's age individual and I would agree that Parkinson's is the most likely explanation that explains all. It's either that or several separate explanations/reasons. The simple answer is usually the correct one though.

Is it normal for an MD to go on line and basically call a respected treating physician who has offered a medical opinion after a series of tests and years of direct physical observation a LIAR? Because that is what you just did. Maybe you should apologize to Dr. Bardack. But you likely will not.


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This letter is a summary update on Hillary Rodham Clinton’s health since the release of my previous medical statement in July 2015.

Mrs. Clinton has been seen by me regularly this year for routine care. She has had recurrent blood testing for Coumadin dosing and adjustments. Her blood levels have been relatively stable. She also has had several allergy flares over the past year, which has been a typical pattern for most of her life. In consultation with her allergist, she responded well to her medication adjustments.

In January of 2016, Mrs. Clinton developed symptoms of sinusitis and an ear infection, which was treated with antibiotics and steroids. Over the ensuing few weeks, she noted progressive pain in her left ear despite treatment, and subsequently was evaluated by her ENT physician. This evaluation confirmed a sinus and ear infection, with increased fluid in her left ear. To help alleviate her symptoms, a myringotomy tube was placed in her left ear in January of 2016. After the tube was placed, Mrs. Clinton had significant improvement in her symptoms. Further follow-up evaluation with a CT scan of her brain and sinuses was done in March of 2016. This scan showed no abnormalities of the brain and mild chronic sinusitis. Her symptoms resolved and she continued symptom-free for the next six months.

On Friday, September 2nd, I evaluated Mrs. Clinton for a 24-hour history of a low grade fever, congestion and fatigue. On examination, she was noted to have a temperature of 99.4; her vital signs were otherwise normal as was her physical exam. She was advised to rest, put on a short course of antibiotics and continued on her allergy medications for an upper respiratory tract infection in the setting of her seasonal allergies. Over the next several days as she traveled, her congestion worsened and she developed a cough. She was advised to see me when she returned from her travels for further testing. On Friday, September 9th, she was seen and evaluated in my office. A non-contrast chest CT scan, including a CTA calcium score, was performed. This test allowed for specific imaging of her lungs while also following up on cardiac risk stratification from 2010 given her family history of heart disease. The results of the CT scan revealed a small right middlelobe pneumonia; her coronary calcium score was again zero. She was treated with antibiotics for pneumonia and advised to rest. This was a mild non-contagious bacterial pneumonia. On Sunday, September 11 at the 9/11 Memorial event, she became overheated and dehydrated and as a result felt dizzy. I examined her immediately upon her return home; she was re-hydrating and recovering nicely. I advised her to stay home and rest for the next several days. Mrs. Clinton has since been evaluated by me several times and continues to improve.

Mrs. Clinton’s current medications include Armor Thyroid, Coumadin dosed as directed, Levaquin (for a total ten days), Clarinex, as well as B12 as needed. After consultation with her hematologist, it was decided again not to change her anticoagulation to a newer agent. Her recent testing, all of which was done within the past month, has been normal. She remains up to date on all of her immunizations, including Prevnar and Pneumovax. Her Coumadin levels have been adjusted as needed according to regular lab testing. She had a normal mammogram and breast ultrasound. She receives routine dental care. Her thyroid blood tests are within normal limits. Of note, she has remained stable for many years on Armor thyroid to treat her hypothyroidism (a low T3 level). Her laboratory testing (vitamin D, CBC, fasting blood glucose, comprehensive metabolic panel, hemoglobin A1-C, vitamin B12) was normal, including cholesterol of 189, LDL of 103, HDL of 56 and triglycerides of 159. Her vital signs showed blood pressure of 100/70, heart rate of 70, respiratory rate of 18, temperature of 97.8 and pulse-oximetry of 99%. The remainder of her complete physical exam was normal and she is in excellent mental condition.

My overall impression is that Mrs. Clinton has remained healthy and has not developed new medical conditions this year other than a sinus and ear infection and her recently diagnosed pneumonia. She is recovering well with antibiotics and rest. She continues to remain healthy and fit to serve as President of the United States.

Sincerely

Lisa Bardack, MD
Diplomat of the American Board of Internal Medicine
Chair of Internal Medicine, CareMount Medical
 

Larry L.

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Is it normal for an MD to go on line and basically call a respected treating physician...a LIAR? Because that is what you just did...

You're spinning again...not to mention being dishonest your own darned self.

"j.m." simply stated his medically-based opinion...which he has every right to do. He didn't even so much as imply Dr. Bardack was lying. You simply chose to see it that way.

Good grief...
 

Doug S.

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Looking forward to watching the debate tonight...and fully expecting that HC will make mincemeat out of The Donald. The Repubs need to just hope he doesn't shoot himself in the foot any further with some of his unusual "ideas". Admittedly, he has been much less "rancorous" in his mumblings recently, so his handlers are making progress.

We'll see tonight....be there or be square, guys (and gals)!!

Cheers!!

Doug
 

Larry L.

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...The Repubs need to just hope he doesn't shoot himself in the foot...
Doug

Agreed. The guy's proven to be a real 'crack shot' in that area.

And you libs need to hope Billary doesn't 'freeze-up', 'faint', or get wobbly and collapse/fall again. She won't be able to just "leave early" (before it happens) under debate circumstances if she feels an episode coming on.

If it does happen, it's going to be pretty tough for her people or the media (but then, I repeat myself) to blame it on "the heat" or "dehydration" in a climate-controlled venue such as that, won't it.

Not to worry though. I'm sure every precaution known to man (medical and otherwise) will have been administered/put in place prior to 'show time'. :D

'Popcorn and Coca-Cola are 'at the ready' here...
 

Doug S.

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Agreed! This should be a great night for "discovery", so to speak!

So the Pepsi and :lurker: are ready at the "Dugly" household, too...let the fun begin (and there might be some :chug: too)!

Cheers to all!

Doug
 

Doug S.

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Deleted...double post :thumbsdown:

No cheers for Doug!!!!!

Doug
 
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Jeff Young

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You're spinning again...not to mention being dishonest your own darned self.

"j.m." simply stated his medically-based opinion...which he has every right to do. He didn't even so much as imply Dr. Bardack was lying. You simply chose to see it that way.

Good grief...

Wrong.

He's saying her treating physician is not being honest, and that she obviously has symptoms of Parkinson's.

That is EXACTLY what he is saying.
 

Randy V

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Funny Jeff...

I watched the video again and I heard him (numerous times) state that he has never seen HC and was not her treating physician. He used a lot of words like "may" and "could" which is in stark contrast to "is". I did not hear him say that her physician was not being honest. He did state that many of her apparent symptoms are consistent with some of the symptoms or effects of Parkinson's disease.

And yes, I still find it interesting.
You may also note that I did not once feel the need to drop the F-Bomb that you are so fond of...
 

Jeff Young

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Funny Jeff...

I watched the video again and I heard him (numerous times) state that he has never seen HC and was not her treating physician. He used a lot of words like "may" and "could" which is in stark contrast to "is". I did not hear him say that her physician was not being honest. He did state that many of her apparent symptoms are consistent with some of the symptoms or effects of Parkinson's disease.

And yes, I still find it interesting.
You may also note that I did not once feel the need to drop the F-Bomb that you are so fond of...

See that bold part? That's some looney doctor on youtube saying her treating physician of many years is a liar. Her treating physician says she does not have Parkinson's.

Why isn't that enough for you?

"May" and "could" are weasel words for the weak minded. They allow people to do things like go on message boards and insinuate FUCKING shit that is not true about a female candidate they do not like and want to portray as weak.

I find lots of things interesting. I also think it important as an adult to have a bullshit filter that weeds out the crap that is crap.

So let's try that with you. Read Clinton's doctor's letter. And tell me if you think it is "interesting" to speculate about whether she has Parkinson's? Or just slander basically.
 

Randy V

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I read what you posted from HCs doctor (supposedly - since you did not post your source) and I found that interesting as well Jeff. I guess time will tell as you simply don't get over Parkinson's disease.

Regarding the "female candidate" remark -
I do not have any sexist bias, nor do I have any racial bias as you claim anyone not supporting Obama is..

You seem to think that only YOU have a lock on the truth. Someday you may actually grow up and find out you were wrong.
At that, given your demeanor, I seriously doubt you'll ever admit it...
 

Jeff Young

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LOL - you are the child posting completely unsupported, speculative innuendo about a female candidate's health -- things you would never do about a man, and here you are, calling me a child.

Used to have respect for you.

And you are questioning that letter came from Hillary's doctor? Good grief, you are off the deep end. You shouldn't find that letter "interesting" in the same way you find some anti-Hillary internet crock-doc who got his information from Infowars "interesting."

Nor have I ever said that all folks who don't support the President are racist. The fact you and others keep bringing that up might tell you something though about some of what is going on in your head.
 

Randy V

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Never is a very long time Jeff...
I was also concerned about the health of John McCain until I read his medical report.
You called nearly everyone on this board a racist if they did not support Obama.
So typical of someone who's so insecure... In my opinion that is...

Whoever becomes POTUS, I hope you will support her or him as the choice of your fellow Americans...
 
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