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Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
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We use to have the opportunity to vote for VP separately from POTUS...now it's one "ticket" or the other.

Nobody I know likes either candidate for POTUS...I thought the VP debate stayed on topic and had much less "ya-ya" between the two participants.

I can't figure out why they can't just turn off the mic for the candidate who is not recognized by the moderator. That would, hopefully, stop a lot of the interruptions during the debates. I don't know anyone who thinks ANY of the VP or POTUS candidates acted "presidential".

What happened to the "Draft David Morton" movement...he'd be my choice!!!

Cheers!!

Doug
 

Larry L.

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...I can't figure out why they can't just turn off the mic for the candidate who is not recognized by the moderator. That would, hopefully, stop a lot of the interruptions during the debates.
Doug

'EXACTLY what I've been saying for years. 'Applies to not only political debates, but debates between "talking heads" on T.V. network programs as well. (God knows I've repeatedly emailed that suggestion to a number of them.)

There's no question controlling the mic would, at the very least, cut way down on the ability of the audience (both at home and in the studio - or whatever the venue) to hear what the 'interrupter' is saying...and once that happened, what would be the point of him/her continuing to interrupt?

(An aside: The so-called moderator of the V.P. debate may as well not have been there at all given her inability to control the back-and-forth. She did, however, manage to see to it Kaine was allowed(?) to interrupt more frequently. Most of the "interrupting" Pence did was in the ATTEMPT to shut Kaine up long enough for him [Pence] to finish a sentence. Kaine was flat-out obnoxious. Even some liberals were disgusted with what he did.)
 

Keith

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Regardless of who wins the presidential election this November, we will witness history being made.

If Hillary Clinton wins the U.S. presidential election, it will be the first time in history that two U.S. presidents have slept with each other!


If Donald Trump wins the U.S. presidential election, it will be the first time in history that a billionaire moves into public housing vacated by a black family.
 

Randy V

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Tonight's debate is going to look like a slow-motion train wreck.....
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
I have always thought Trump had somewhat of a self-destructive nature. He's so arrogant about his "accomplishments" and there are SO many failures that he just ignores…Trump University is a splendid example.

Does anyone else remember McCain pacing behind his opponents during debates? I remember that…it was very distracting and I have to wonder if that's why Trump did that during the debate…to draw attention away from HC's comments and more to himself when it was HC's turn at the mic.

It's going to be an interesting election at this point, but if Trump loses many more supporters (and the news this morning was all about the Republican Party not supporting Trump as well as Trump's threat that Republicans will "pay" for not supporting him) it won't even be close. His own party is abandoning him.

We've all said it before…what a shame our country picked these two as their best example of leadership…UGH!!!

No Cheers…not this time!

Doug
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
I can count on one hand all the Presidential candidate signs in yards of homes here in town, but the ubiquitous local election's candidate signs are everywhere.
 

David Morton

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According to some of the more informed political press here in the U.K., The oval office is Clinton's for the taking. According to the same press, Trump has rendered himself the laughing stock.
Here in the U.K., The Commons ( our first level of Parliament in Whitehall and Palace of Westminster ) has started discussing the Parliamentary Scrutiny of Brexit (The exit of the U.K. from the E.U.) and seeing as we only get the chance about once every 43 years, you will have to forgive us over here in the U.K. for not really giving a fuck who ends up in the Whitehouse. Both of your candidates are truly flawed and fell at the first hurdle. You've got it for another four years or so, like it or lump it.
I think I would find somewhere else to live rather than the U.S.A.
 

Mike

Lifetime Supporter
Trump may be a pottymouth but if he acts on currency manipulation and ridiculous trade agreements that hose the US then he will be a significant difference maker than any of the establishment would like him to be right or left. To equate Trump vs Clinton on policy is a mistake. They are FAR different.
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
According to some of the more informed political press here in the U.K., The oval office is Clinton's for the taking. According to the same press, Trump has rendered himself the laughing stock.
Here in the U.K., The Commons ( our first level of Parliament in Whitehall and Palace of Westminster ) has started discussing the Parliamentary Scrutiny of Brexit (The exit of the U.K. from the E.U.) and seeing as we only get the chance about once every 43 years, you will have to forgive us over here in the U.K. for not really giving a fuck who ends up in the Whitehouse. Both of your candidates are truly flawed and fell at the first hurdle. You've got it for another four years or so, like it or lump it.
I think I would find somewhere else to live rather than the U.S.A.

Yes indeed!
 

Keith

Moderator
I am somewhat appalled with the rhetoric being spouted in the US election campaigns. The US election process and the mechanics thereof is somewhat of a mystery to me and I'm sure to many non Yanquis which is why I, and many of my compatriots feel compelled to silence. But really, the world needs a strong USA and what I see is a nation tearing itself apart.

You kind of know that whoever "wins" is never going to be accepted by the "losers" so I dread to think of the outcome.

Why the hatred? I don't get it, or perhaps "Twitter" and all its ilk really is the new lynch mob.

Is this truly the end of the "American Dream?"

Putin must be laughing his miniature bollocks off....:cry:
 

Steve

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I am somewhat appalled with the rhetoric being spouted in the US election campaigns. The US election process and the mechanics thereof is somewhat of a mystery to me and I'm sure to many non Yanquis which is why I, and many of my compatriots feel compelled to silence. But really, the world needs a strong USA and what I see is a nation tearing itself apart.

You kind of know that whoever "wins" is never going to be accepted by the "losers" so I dread to think of the outcome.

Why the hatred? I don't get it, or perhaps "Twitter" and all its ilk really is the new lynch mob.

Is this truly the end of the "American Dream?"

Putin must be laughing his miniature bollocks off....:cry:

Yes...
 

Jeff Young

GT40s Supporter
Trump may be a pottymouth but if he acts on currency manipulation and ridiculous trade agreements that hose the US then he will be a significant difference maker than any of the establishment would like him to be right or left. To equate Trump vs Clinton on policy is a mistake. They are FAR different.

Basically all economists disagree with you.
 

Steve

Supporter
I am somewhat appalled with the rhetoric being spouted in the US election campaigns. The US election process and the mechanics thereof is somewhat of a mystery to me and I'm sure to many non Yanquis which is why I, and many of my compatriots feel compelled to silence. But really, the world needs a strong USA and what I see is a nation tearing itself apart.

You kind of know that whoever "wins" is never going to be accepted by the "losers" so I dread to think of the outcome.

Why the hatred? I don't get it, or perhaps "Twitter" and all its ilk really is the new lynch mob.

Is this truly the end of the "American Dream?"

A little less cynical this time:

Yes, the losers will not accept the winner in either case. The losers view the other candidate as utterly despicable with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. The reality is that these vocal individuals are not as large a group as one might think. A greater number of Americans view both candidates with disgust. I don't remember that ever being the case in Presidential politics. It is puzzling on the surface but the reality is this: most Americans feel the federal government is not working for their best interests. This includes both the left and the right. The poor and minorities (who continue to struggle with social issues, crime, and poverty) feel the government doesn't do enough, doesn't listen to their concerns, hasn't worked to solve their issues, and is primarily out to jail them. The right feels the government does too much, interferes too much (infringing on the rights of the states and the people in the process) and, even when well intentioned, fails at most of what it does and does it inefficiently even when they get it right (many tales of $400 hammers and toilet seats and multimillion dollar military orders the pentagon doesn't want but some senator needs in order to buy the votes in his state with new jobs paid for by the taxpayer). The right also sees there isn't enough money for the programs we currently have, so additional programs (Obamacare, "free college", "student loan forgiveness", single payor government run healthcare) are a nonstarter for them.

So, in short, no one is happy and each side views the other as pushing us close to the edge of the cliff.....past a point of no-return. That's where the hatred and the vitriol comes from.

The "American Dream" is over. It has been for some time. Rural America is suffering in poverty and many have a significant methamphetamine (or other) drug problems. The economic doldrums have left them behind for several decades and they will likely never catch up. There are no/minimal job prospects and both the companies and the younger population are leaving, exasperating the problem further. The ticket out is education, but our secondary education has been suffering and underperforming in many areas of the country for some time. Hence the push at the federal level for better standards. This has led to "Common Core" and other standardized testing (with companies such as Pearson Education reaping huge financial rewards). College tuition has been growing far faster than the rate of inflation for decades (ironic because the campuses are often very liberal and yet they're charge an ever higher price tag for a questionable service). If a student doesn't choose wisely they can leave college with 200k in debt trying to pay the loans back on a teachers salary. 4 years of dental school is 450k, and that's after the cost of a college degree.

So, is the future bright? Not really. The only thing I'm confident of is that neither of these nimrods will improve the situation at all. The irony is that many poor Americans (at least white Americans) feel that a Republican is their best bet and nearly all large company CEO's are for Hillary. That's a complete reversal from the "expected". We do have better leaders available. None ran for President.

Oh, and Putin does have small balls and a small dick. Takes Viagra like it's tic tacs......now I expect my email and computer will be hacked and all my porn surfing exposed on Wiki Leaks.
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
Too many people...period. Rats act the same way when you try to crowd more of them into the same place. The human future is bleak, and the new "norm" (progressively less tolerant, and more belligerent) will be reset more frequently, and with fewer lulls than previously. At some point it's going to be ourselves rather than climate, pollution, or water that will do us in.
 

Keith

Moderator
Food for thought. Thank you for your mature replies. I wasn't sure what would happen when I poked around with that stick.. :shifty:
 
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