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Jeff Young

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I never equated them - merely pointed out that both were considered eccentric...
You must enjoy changing people's words around on them.... Have you ever considered becoming a lawyer? :lipsrsealed:

You absolutely did equate them, saying that Europe feared both and then was able to work with them. I'm telling you they are two completely different animals.

Works, they mean things. Have you considered getting an education you can understand what you write?
 

Randy V

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Although you and I will likely never agree on politics (which is fine by me), you may recall that many foreign leaders were also afraid of Ronald Reagan.. He was called Ronald RAYGUN by many of the jokesters of the day. Also pictures of Ronnie with his finger on "the button" were drawn by many of he political cartoonists of the day. But very important, in my opinion, was that Gorbachev had great respect for him and his strengths when it came to his unwavering support of the American way and American interests..

So maybe being perceived as just a little eccentric is not necessarily a bad thing...

The possibility of Hillary getting away with murder really sticks in my craw and I would never cast a vote for her...

You absolutely did equate them, saying that Europe feared both and then was able to work with them. I'm telling you they are two completely different animals.

Works, they mean things. Have you considered getting an education you can understand what you write?

Just so you don't have to take off your shoes to count back the posts to the one we are referencing, I've done you a favor by quoting it above along with the primary thrust of my statement in bold..
I suspect that a remedial reading course would do you a world of good...

Equate -
Verb
Consider two things to be the same in quantity or value.

Identifying two people as having somewhat eccentric tendencies, does not mean that they are both considered to be equal in whole..

Regardless of what your take is on Trump, he stands a very good chance at becoming elected as POTUS. Obama and others in the DFL are doing their best to draw America's attention away from the real issues with Hillary.
Why else would the current POTUS make such a big deal about the Transgender bathroom use? Comeon - lets make more laws that have no practical means of enforcement.. Meanwhile drawing attention away from Benghazi, Gun Running and a lot of other issues that the former SOS is likely guilty of...

Hillary Clinton should be indicted and prosecuted and right friggen now!
 

Doug S.

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So...following your logic, since Trump has said he would debate Sanders, that makes Billary even more "cowardly" than Trump...right?..

Wrong! That makes Hillary SMART!

There is NO WAY that Sanders can become the candidate of the Democratic Party, so no need for Hillary to spend any time or energy debating him, better to invest the time and money calling Drumph out...and with the most recent polls showing Drumph and Hillary essentially in a dead-heat tie (within the standard error of measurement), Drumph would be a fool to refuse to debate her and a fool to engage in any debate with her...and he knows that is a no-win choice.

Bottom line... point, set, match to Hillary!!!

I like Sanders, personally, but so far he is short on substance...although not as much as Drumph, who makes these broad, sweeping claims ("We'll build the wall and make Mexico pay for it!"), but refuses (with good reason, IMHO) to divulge exactly how he will "make" Mexico pay for the wall.

Bottom line...get ready for 8 more years with the Dems in the White House.

I agree...hard times ahead for the Repubs...but they did it to themselves, and, (in line with Randy's suggestion that Hillary should be indicted and tried), I believe John Boehner and his Republican partners in crime should be put on trial for treason...IMHO their obstructive efforts rise to that level!!!

Cheers!!

Doug
 

Jeff Young

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Other than "I heard someone on the internet say it," indicted for what?

And please, no links. I've read enough on the on the topic to understand what's really going on here.

I want YOU (or Randy) to tell me what she should be indicted for?

- hosting Dept. of State emails on a private server? Violation of an unclear policy at worst after the IG's report.
-BENGHAZI! The House Republican Report exonerated her.
-Gun running? What the fuck? She had nothing to do with that.

So what is it? Whatever it is, it is powerful enough to send normally rational Randy into Loopy Larry land.
 

Doug S.

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I want YOU (or Randy) to tell me what she should be indicted

Jeff, it's quite simple...the Repubs fear HC because they see her as unbeatable given the candidate who forced himself on their party...HC represents a threat to the conservative "Not with my tax dollars" dream of a perfect government, i.e. one which enriches the already wealthy at great cost to the middle class and poor...conservatives have deluded themselves into believing that an indictment will perhaps cost her enough votes that they can squeak a candidate past her.

Sanders is correct...the vast majority of us common citizens are tired of having to listen to the conservatives "Ya-ya" about private servers and Benghazi. We have accepted the outcomes of the inquests and are ready to focus on regaining some of the economic ground the conservatives cost us under the reign of Boehner and his partners in crime.

The Repubs are running scared, realize this is the calm before the storm for their party...they think beating those dead horses will help them, but as i have said before...hard times are ahead for the Rupublican Party.

Cheers!!

Doug
 

Pat

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Other than "I heard someone on the internet say it," indicted for what?

I want YOU (or Randy) to tell me what she should be indicted for?


-BENGHAZI! The House Republican Report exonerated her.

Randy, try one or all of:
1.) 18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
2.)18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
3.) U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
4.) 18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
5.) 18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
6.) 18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
7.) 18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
8.)18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
9.)18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
10.)18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
11.) 18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense

Those on the site can read the executive summary of the earlier committee report and decide for themselves if Mrs. Clinton was "exonerated" by it.

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/Benghazi Report.pdf

It should be noted that there is another committee that is still meeting that has not released it's report.

As an aside for our overseas readers wondering about the guy that "waves his dick around". I was wondering about that because he isn't running. I am of course referring to the liberal icon who created significant inconvenience to my youth with his adventure in Vietnam. Ironically his last name was "Johnson". You see aside from his rather Clintonesque proclivity for philandering, Mr. Johnson was well known for literally waving around his male member (a little extension of him that he had affectionately nicknamed “Jumbo”). He was said to urinate in public whenever he felt like it, and if anyone dared confront him, he would whip his privates around and challenge the poor sap with, “Have you seen anything bigger than this?”…

So perhaps Mr. Trump is channeling his inner Democrat.
 

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The SOS had nothing to do with this?
https://www.facebook.com/OverpassesForAmerica/videos/857870164319219/

The Obama Administration ran guns from Benghazi to Syria before the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on September 11, 2012 that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and 3 other Americans.

The report reveals that U.S. Intelligence agencies were fully aware that weapons were moving from the terrorist stronghold in Libya to Syria before the attack that killed four Americans. It also ties the attack to the 9-11 terrorist attacks, and puts to rest the Obama/Clinton narrative that the attack was a "spontaneous demonstration caused by a YouTube video." WATCH!
 

Jeff Young

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No, she didn't. Did you even watch that video? It's about TERRORISTS moving weapons from Libya to Syria. TERRORISTS. Good grief.
 

Jeff Young

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Veek gets an A in statute regurgitation and an F in analysis and understanding. Anyone can list out statutes. Proving a violation is kind of the key right?

Since the white male conservative contingent has spent 25 years listening to talk radio claim that HIllary and Bill killed their chief of staff, killed the White House chef, and so and so on, they are completely irrational about her. Rest of the world-- that's the truth. Normally rational men turned irrational by filling their heads with hate for 25 years.

The fact is she is the most investigated politician in my lifetime, by Republicans and Democrats, and no one has found anything of substance.

Benghazi? Read the House report Veek links. No one could have stopped that attack (right there in the exec summary). And the biggest right win hate point, that the Obama administration new the attach was a "terror attack" rather than one caused by a demonstration - the report concludes clear as day in the days following the attack the reasons for it were unclear. And so on.

Not sure why Veek is talking about a guy from the 60s. But this appears to be the guy he is going to vote for in 2016, the one who thinks it appropriate to talk about the size of his dick at a Presidential debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9cXGohbmGM

Rest of the world: is this the guy you want with his big hands on the nuke button? On the levers of the world economy?
 

Jeff Young

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He picked up a few endorsements this morning!

Vladimir Putin
North Korea
The Ku Klux Klan
David Duke
Council of Conservative Citizens -- a white nationalist group
Jared Taylor -- runs American Renassaince and believes blacks are inherently less intelligent than whites
Hunter Wallace -- white supremacy blogger
Peter Brimelow - extreme "anti-immigration blogger" VDARE - premier news outlet for patriotic immigration reform
Rocky Suhayda/American Nazi Party
Larry
 

Pat

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Veek gets an A in statute regurgitation and an F in analysis and understanding. Anyone can list out statutes. Proving a violation is kind of the key right?

Benghazi? Read the House report Veek links. No one could have stopped that attack (right there in the exec summary).

Not sure why Veek is talking about a guy from the 60s. But this appears to be the guy he is going to vote for in 2016, the one who thinks it appropriate to talk about the size of his dick at a Presidential debate.

Rest of the world: is this the guy you want with his big hands on the nuke button? On the levers of the world economy?

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Thank you for your scripted analysis. Tell us, do you still have no concerns about the fellows you referred to as "yahoos running around the desert with AK47s".

But I can certainly see your world view in your response as you've previously described the Clinton/Obama Mideast policy as "moderately successful".

1. Did you actually read the Intelligence Committee report??? You seem to have backed off your previous contention the Intelligence Committee report "exonerated her" (Mrs. Clinton) as it certainly did nothing of the kind. The focus of the report was the intelligence activities. It states, "Any U.S. official had sufficient warning of the deteriorating security situation". Yet Ms. Clinton refused to provide the pre-assault security that Ambassador Stevens was pleading for in spite of ample intelligence identifying the risk. After her willful negligence and blatant disregard of the CIA and State Dept. risk assessments, the geopolitical disaster she created betting on the wrong side in the "Arab Spring", and last but not least the lives of her staff, you are absolutely right - by the time of the attack it was too late.
Perhaps you remember it was enabled by the fear for the safety of the Arab Spring “rebels” within Benghazi that Mr. Obama claimed under his "Responsibility To Protect" doctrine to take us to war to defend them. (How did that work out?).
Maybe you've forgotten the current leader of al-Qaeda, Mr. al-Zawahiri, then called for an attack on Americans in Libya in a tape released on the eve of the assault on the U.S. compound. His specific call in a 9/11 anniversary video for Libyan jihadists to avenge the death in a drone strike in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region of senior Libyan al Qaeda operative Abu Yahya al-Libi in June. The warning was circulating at least 18 hours before the attack on the compound. Ray Charles could have seen this one coming but it didn't fit the political narrative and was apparently ignored by Ms. Clinton.
To reiterate, nobody could have stopped the inevitable outcome of her terrible decisions once the assault began. However, if she had heeded the intelligence and the repeated security requests, the bloodshed of four lives would probably have been avoided.
But then, she had to protect the Obama campaign narrative that Bin Laden was dead and the terrorists were on the run.
In addition, it would appear from released emails that her longtime associate Mr. Blumenthal had assembled a cabal of investors betting that they could make a buck once Mr. Qaddafi was ousted in what was Mrs. Clinton's eight month assassination program of a foreign leader. His counsel to her is disturbing.
But wait, it was all because of a movie right, not the preservation of a campaign slogan or the counsel of a Clinton Foundation employee who (along with his associates) stands to profit from the endeavor???

2. I don't plan to vote for Mr. Johnson this time around. He's not running. But I do find that there are a frightening number of similarities he shares with Mr. Trump. And you have obviously no clue as to where my vote is going. Mr. Trump is nothing more than another political opportunistic Democrat in Republican clothing with better name recognition taking advantage of the circular firing squad that was the Republican primaries.

3. As for my statutory analysis, we'll just have to see what the FBI has to say. Perhaps they'll agree, perhaps they won't. Either way, it would be truly shocking if Mrs. Clinton was prosecuted by the administration of a President that has already declared “I don’t think it posed a national security problem”. He went on to say “There’s classified, and then there’s classified”. I guess that means one set of rules for those of us that were actually accountable for classified information and another set for the Clintons - nothing new about that. It's up there with "if you like your doctor/insurance you can keep them", accused deserter SGT Bergdahl “served the United States with honor and distinction” and the Clintons were "dead broke when they left the White House".

You have three people running. An honest, somewhat likeable socialist who appears to be economically illiterate and choice between two identically vengeful megalomaniacs, who will do just about anything for power, wealth and notoriety.
 
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Steve

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You guys should cut Jeff some slack. He's still trying to figure out what the definition of "is" is.....
 
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