Police brutality and murders.

Randy V

Moderator-Admin
Staff member
Admin
Lifetime Supporter
Wrong. Go back my dear friend and read some of the crap thrown my way before that post. Which is just a term is youngsters use to tell someone to settle down. Not name calling.

Lame post Randy. Nice job.
I went back and reviewed all the posts in this thread prior to your calling someone Beavis and found no such case where you were called a name other than Jeff.

I am waiting for your problem definition and solution. They don't need to be in the same post, or even within this thread. You seem to believe that you have the matter well understood - at least well enough to tell others that they do not.
Time for you to step up to the plate...
 

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter
So its one of two things right?

Either (a) minorities are naturally/inherently prone to violence OR (2) societal/historical factors are causing higher rates of violence in African American communities.


I'd be interested in what the group thinks about the above. One of the two answers is about as racist as it comes.....
I'll attempt to answer your question, first I don't think minorities are more prone to violence than anyone else including majorities.

Therefore in the context of your question societal/ historical factors must be causing higher rates of violence in African American Communities.
There is your answer what do you think the solution is?
 

Steve

Supporter
I'll attempt to answer your question, first I don't think minorities are more prone to violence than anyone else including majorities.

Therefore in the context of your question societal/ historical factors must be causing higher rates of violence in African American Communities.
There is your answer what do you think the solution is?
Jeff, I've answered your question several times. I've also indictated that #1 is offensive, both to myself and likely to minorities. Finally, I've indicated I don't think #2 adequately covers the reasons in 2016 although it likely did at least through the 60's and possibly the 70's.

Randy and Pete have also answered your question.

So, still waiting for your solution......
 
A possible way forward would be to systematically disperse the ghetto dwellers evenly throughout the states. The criminal element would then be easy pickings for the leo`s and without risk of riots and looting. They are only a problem because of how they have amassed, strength in numbers if you like. Just thoughts.

Bob
 

Jeff Young

GT40s Supporter
A possible way forward would be to systematically disperse the ghetto dwellers evenly throughout the states. The criminal element would then be easy pickings for the leo`s and without risk of riots and looting. They are only a problem because of how they have amassed, strength in numbers if you like. Just thoughts.

Bob
Forced relocation? That would be constitutional how?

Pete, Steve, thanks for the answers. I'll write something up later tonight. Been tied up at work most of the day.
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
A possible way forward would be to systematically disperse the ghetto dwellers evenly throughout the states. The criminal element would then be easy pickings for the leo`s and without risk of riots and looting. They are only a problem because of how they have amassed, strength in numbers if you like. Just thoughts.

Bob
Bob, given the current state of affairs, I'm not sure that making ANY minority, much less African Americans, "...easy pickings for the leo's..." is a good idea, much less a viable solution.

...I'm just sayin'...

(Do I detect a bit of tongue in cheek in your suggestion? If so...)

Cheers!!

Doug
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
Sometimes you just have to wonder how many of the problems people have with police are self inflicted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-32-m0_-Sg
No kidding.

How LEOs manage to put up with 'upitty' clowns like those is totally beyond me. They're just a-s-k-i-n-g to start something. They're pushing for it.


up·pi·ty
ˈəpətē/
adjective informal

adjective: uppity

  1. self-important; arrogant.
    "an uppity sister-in-law"
    synonyms: arrogant, snobbish, hoity-toity, snooty, pretentious, bumptious, full of oneself, puffed up, conceited, pompous, self-assertive, overbearing, cocky, cocksure, impertinent, haughty, self-important, superior, presumptuous, overweening, uppish
 
Bob, given the current state of affairs, I'm not sure that making ANY minority, much less African Americans, "...easy pickings for the leo's..." is a good idea, much less a viable solution.

...I'm just sayin'...

(Do I detect a bit of tongue in cheek in your suggestion? If so...)

Cheers!!

Doug
What I was getting at Doug was that in these ghetto's you have a higher proportion of perps per Leo than say a sleepy town.That can only mean yer powlice will be easily overwhelmed when trouble kicks off, they have to play rough to have any effect and then look what happens. Thin them out I say and give the Leo's a chance.

Bob
 

Terry Oxandale

Skinny Man
Yet another pussy with a gun (LEO) shot an unarmed person in Florida. And of course, the police union rep can only state that the officer was trying to save his life. These folks need to find another job if they have no ability to assess a situation. This crap of "there are times when we must react without thinking" is BS. Too many of these situations are because they revert back to training (action without thought), and not to thinking, and their training (brainwashing) they they are never wrong.

Anybody with a gun can shoot another person if they feel threatened. These guys should be above "anybody" in this respect, and they are certainly treated better than "anybody" if there is a dispute in their judgement. There is NO good reason to kill an unarmed person. If they are that afraid of those they must interact with, they need to be fired, quit, or put on a desk. They are not conscripted into service, they do this willing, so what's going on? Extremely poor training? Poor psychological profiles, poor background checks? What is it?
 
Last edited:
The "story" that I heard was an accidental or negligent discharge, and the officer didn't mean for it to happen. This is not good news for the officer, nor the department there.
 

Larry L.

Lifetime Supporter
Yet another pussy with a gun (LEO) shot an unarmed person in Florida.
The "story" that I heard was an accidental or negligent discharge, and the officer didn't mean for it to happen.
IF the video I saw of the incident wasn't 'creatively edited' AND the 'subtitles' at the bottom of the screen accurately detailed the exchange between the caregiver and the LEO - IMHO the LEO ought to be fired on the spot.

There's nooooo waaaaay he could have "accidently fired" his sidearm IF he'd followed proper procedure and had had his trigger finger along side the frame of his piece and NOT inside the trigger guard on the trigger.

It's no secret I virtually always side with law enforcement initially when there's been an officer involved shooting - especially when there's no d-e-f-i-n-a-t-i-v-e video (or VIDEOS) of the event. But, in THIS case (noting the above disclaimer) there's no way I can do that. As I see it, there was absolutely no visible/logical reason for the LEO to have believed his life was in peril. ...and therefore no reason to have shot the caregiver. NONE.

It sickens me to have to say that...
 
Last edited:
IF the video I saw of the incident wasn't 'creatively edited' AND the 'subtitles' at the bottom of the screen accurately detailed the exchange between the caregiver and the LEO - IMHO the LEO ought to be fired on the spot.

There's nooooo waaaaay he could have "accidently fired" his sidearm IF he'd followed proper procedure and had had his trigger finger along side the frame of his piece and NOT inside the trigger guard on the trigger.

It's no secret I virtually always side with law enforcement initially when there's been an officer involved shooting - especially when there's no d-e-f-i-n-a-t-i-v-e video (or VIDEOS) of the event. But, in THIS case (noting the above disclaimer) there's no way I can do that. As I see it, there was absolutely no visible/logical reason for the LEO to believe his life was in peril. ...and therefore no reason to have shot the caregiver. NONE.

It sickens me to have to say that...
Ditto Larry!
 
Top